Hey everyone - On the off chanced you missed this we've got a Modern Combat bundle for everyone who's updated to iOS 8. If you purchased MC3 and MC4, you get MC5 for free. Definitely check it out if you haven't picked up MC5 yet!
Very amusing I'm sure but I see no one really reads posts fully and also fail to understand what their devices were designed for. I simply prefer like for like comparisons, not the Ford versus Ferrari ones people seem to like to make around here. The vita is a portable gaming console. The iphone is a.... Phone. A smartphone but a phone none the less. Not a purpose designed/built portable gaming console. Which the Vita is. And Vita prices games at a substantially higher level than what is considered "premium" for smartphone games which allows them to invest substantially higher (along with the heavy subsidies from Sony) in development. Plus while it's technically plausible for an iPhone to run similar effects to what a Vita is capable, most people would prefer their phone battery to last more than half an hour. By the way, while the graphical comparison to RR3 is valid and accurate (and not another inaccurate pointless console/mobile console comparison that people love so much while at the same time forgetting they are not playing the game on a console or a device specifically designed uniquely for games), RR3 has a framerate lock of 30fps on iOS set by the developer.
Ryan, I posted the same thing on the GL forum, but I think you guys should do a weekly dev blog / discussion about what's happening, what's next, etc. The lack of communication regarding how current bugs and problems are being handled, if at all, is killing us here. Thanks.
I think I can run killzone for 2.5-3 hours on my vita,not sure why it would only run 30 minutes on my 5s.That's just factually incorrect information that makes no sense.My problem isn't that the game doesn't look as good as kz does on vita but that it's performance is much worse on a much more powerful device than a vita whilst having outdated graphics by comparison.Which is clearly poor optimisation. By your logic Forgotten memories which will have much better graphics on a 5s than it does on a vita(higher res and more shader effects) should then only last 10 minutes or so eh?I love how people will say just about anything to make their point. like I illustrated in my previous post it's the same case for every other Gl games which struggles on 800,330 chipset high end by all accounts. Iphone is a multipurpose device with huge focus on gaming I wouldn't buy an 900$ iphone just to make calls,not to say that vita is 1/4th as cheap,so that price does account for something.
Gv looks terrible if see that video the textures are murky,lightning is poor and flat,everything lacks polygons,draw distance and popin(whole world forming in front of you) is so atrocious that it became distracting after playing for 5 minutes on my device,it's in many respects comparable to games you could find on n64 and ps1 at times.
I'm completely with you on that, I was just joking about him not knowing who you are, because you post quite a lot on these forums. And RR3,imo, shouldn't be compared because it has much less to render. There's cars, roads, grass, and sky; however, MC5 has to render the big gun in front of your face, the things you're shooting at with said big gun, cover, buildings, etc. However since this is the internet, I'm not allowed to have an opinion and I am ready for someone to prove me wrong.
I bought both games and shows up as $8.01 for me. Not going to pay $8.01 for one game that's actually $6.99
It certainly amuses me when new members come along and think they know more than those who communicate directly with developers and understand the platform along with its limitations.
The update is mediocre. In my first match, I got killed with 2:20 left and the screen froze with the timer to re-spawn at 5. The audio was working fine.I hit the home button, waited a couple minutes and went back ... still frozen.
Just pointing out the obvious really,I'm tired of lame excusby Gl support guys who can't really offer anything other than shutdown/close apps as a solution.Now after metal update the devs have all the tools they would get on a vita but on a much more powerful platform,If your game has bad performance whilst having bad graphics that means that you haven't optimised it properly not that my device is underpowered. I've shown video proof to anyone who thinks otherwise os hope that the few support guys might catch up on it and inform their teams that there are some real gamers out there who care about the game experience rather than a novelty of a game which functions half of the time.I'm sorry if I offended someone but I still think that I deserve better given the price of the game and other shitty tantrums of always online,admist of which they forgot optimising their game. P.S A day later and there's still no acknowledgement of the technical issues by the support people,Whereas they are available on other threads quite readily,I suppose this is Gl's biggest baddest release,Tha lack of attention is quite bewildering. Can't say it wasn't unexpected as always though.
Have to agree. RR3 really has much less objects to render. But on the other hand, MC5 even has a non-stable framerate on the Nvidia Shield with its K1 SoC which turned out to be much faster than the A7 or even the A8. The software part isn't much relevant here considering Nvidia is providing top notch drivers. So yeah, it's really bad optimization on every possible platform imo.
Comparison: Vita: 2200 mAh iPhone 5: 1440 mAh Vita: Unix based OS ... ... ... iPhone 5: iOS 6 - 8 Vita: dedicated gaming console iPhone 5: Multi function device. Verdict: Stop whining and buy a console or handheld gaming system (better yet, a PC) if that's what you want. Appreciate what your phone can do. If not for Apple, and to an extent GL, you'd still be playing brick breaker on your phone. Really though, news on an update would be great.
I don't know why people are putting down RR3,It has console quality car models made up of some 20'000 to 40'000 polygons.Which means each car has more polygons than 2-3 cars combined in asphalt 8,and it render 22 of them compared to 8 in a8.Second the textures are much higher res than those of A8 and so is the internal res not to say it has hugely better anti-aliasing. Lightning is almost 2-3 generations above A8's baked low res shadows,with real time hdrr in cockpit view and whatnot. A8 has ofcourse more geometry in environments which look better and few fancy effects in terms of nitro and a few here and there but technically nothing like dynamic lightning or hdrr on RR3.There's no competition here RR3 looks like a ps3/360 game whereas A8 looks like a xbox-wii game. gt racing2 is not even in competition inspite of being released 8 months later than RR3,Not say Rr3 runs at a rock solid fps unlike the two and it hasn't even updated for 5s let alone metal! I would even say that RR3 looks better on iph 5 than a8 does on iph 5s having played them on both devices extensively.Not to say though A8 is great game however.
Vita - 50gflops,512mb ram,45nm cpu architecture,200$. A7 - 120gflops,1gb ram,28nm (28nm LPH offers 60% of active power reduction at the same frequency or 55% of performance boost at the same leakage over 45nm LP SoC designs - Samsung) cpu architecture,900$. Case solved.It's not whining it's called logical criticism,on the other hand if you can't withstand other opinions then forums aren't the best place to be.Maybe you don't care about gaming on your phone or how lag affects first person shooters or maybe you only care about having the novelty of a 3d game on your device and go 'wow' with just about everything but I do care simply because I paid top dollar for it,just because you don't doesn't mean nobody else does. Apple aren't stupid to invest millions in a powerful cpu and gpu and a whole low level api called 'metal',Gaming if the main focus of ios 8. I certainly wouldn't be playing brick breaker though while I would say they had a huge hand in bringing console type experiences to mobile,games like Bioshock,RR3,Fifa would still have existed with or without them,I'm not grateful for their existence at all.No hard feelings mate and yes I do own a gaming pc and a vita but I'm not sure how that's related to the discussion. this video shows exactly how much testing they did with the update: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVjWKAwlu4
And the threa is back to comparing PS Vita to iphone again. Sigh. I did find the comment about the response from GL support intriguing though. Know I think about it, they did seem more active in the A8 thread when I was watching that one. Maybe they just prefer that game, or know more about it or something... Either way it would be nice to get some more info about what's coming... Anyway, must get back to playing this again soon, but I would really like some new maps of a new game mode!
Gl themselves state they have console quality graphics in their games,They should be ready for comparisons.I don't see why they can't be compared though,I've seen a lot of talk of people talking about console quality this console quality that (zen garden) myself but when it comes down to actual truth/facts/benchmarks they tend to shy away from them,It's as if comparison's are only good as long as their purchase is justified or makes their devices look good in other cases they suddenly become irrelevant. It's not the merit but the convenience that governs the opinions,which is sad.Many are just making up facts for themselves and turn blind to every proof/benchmark put forward to them,face the facts people Gl suck at optimising games.
