Universal Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour - (by Gameloft)

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  1. paulkolin86

    paulkolin86 Well-Known Member

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    #4901 paulkolin86, Mar 1, 2013
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    Hey friend..You wonder why? I guess UR also iPad4 user. Aren't You?
    U know what is ridiculous? I own : ipad 2, 3 and 4 and none of these devices can run this game properly now. Ehh. Probably I behaved like a child writing my previous post ( sorry 4 dat ), but i'm almost 27 years old guy...
    And I'm from Poland so U can treat me like a stranger...
     
  2. nvisions

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    I tried the flash muzzle on my intervention class. Much better. :cool:

    I'm on iPad 2 and for the most part it's working just about the same as before the update.

    A couple days ago Alert's framerate was sickly (server overload?). But I haven't played that map since then to know if there was improvement or not.
     
  3. paulkolin86

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    #4903 paulkolin86, Mar 1, 2013
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    I got used to non-retina ipad's 4 performance... Downgrading it is killin' me...
    Playing this game on iPad 2 or 3 is a completely different experience.
    With my previous kdr of 4.72 ( before the update ) even noobs own me now, so there must be sth wrong...
     
  4. guitarguy19

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    i understand, i too have the latest device and don't like how unprofessional gameloft has been
     
  5. paulkolin86

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    Thank You Guitarguy19 for understanding me.. Let's wait for the update... I'm just afraid it will take some time :/
     
  6. guitarguy19

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    i think the earliest they can get it out is within a week and a half :/
     
  7. LOLavi

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    Best muzzle attachment.

    And sorry but I don't get you guys. It can't be that bad. Best device to play mc4 on. What's the worst the performance could lower into? iPhone 4S? Still a really good performance. Only iPhone 5 is probably faster ATM. And maybe one of the iPads. I don't know, all I know is that I got this friend from outside of TA who says the lag hasn't increased that much though it's noticeable. Sorry for interfering with your subject that I don't have experience on, but I think you guys are overreacting. I've seen a display recorded video of iPad 4, it ain't that bad. Oh and it was by the same guy who said it didn't lag that much though he notices it.

    Hating Gameloft? Deleting game from small lag? The servers are also lagging so the retina hasn't made you lag that much.
     
  8. JBRUU

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    Yes, to quote another who put it quite well, "the framerate is shot to shit". Personally I'd add another, more colorful description, but I'm already pushing it. Not just multiplayer, but campaign as well run poorly. It's not the servers.

    It's close to unplayable - 20 or so FPS normally, but when an explosion or other particle effect goes off in your face the framerate drops to single digits. It's unplayable for me personally, and I'm not touching the game until it gets an update.

    You have no clue how it seems to us because you don't own an iPad 4, nor do you realize how irritating it is going from an incredibly stable framerate (approx 45 FPS maybe, very hard to tell when it never drops) to this piece of crap.
     
  9. Paul202

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    That's why, plus I got a great deal on one used like new that had COD BO, GTA IV, and Assassins creed 2. It likes I'm going to retire from iOS gaming for the next 3 months until Gameloft releases an update fixing the retina problem.
     
  10. guitarguy19

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    its just we payed for a device that costs 500 dollars minimum, we expect superb performance, theres as much lag as on the ipod touch 4g. I can make the comparison cuz i played all modern combats before the fourth one on an itouch 4g. So if you had an ipad 4 you would also complain if the framerate dropped significantly on a device that's capable of running graphically intensive games
     
  11. This makes me appreciate my faithful and loyal underpowered ipad 3 even more.... :p Good to see you around Jbruu.
     
  12. LOLavi

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    #4912 LOLavi, Mar 2, 2013
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    See, this one I believe, because you actually compared it to a device which lag I can understand. And I can now see why you are pissed, personally I can handle this, but I can imagine you iPad 4 ownerd getting pissed.

    But theres still evidence against you lagging as much as you said. You didnt play MC4 on iPod and this doesnt seem to lag so much: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TN8NE0_VTyA&feature=g-subs-u But I take your word for it, because
    A) I trust you and Im sure its annoying
    B) I shouldnt question you since I dont have an iPad

    How does it lag during notifications, that truly shows you lag if you get around 5 or even under FPS.

    OH AND, in the video theres my song playing in the background so watching my friends commentary would hwlp me as well :D Oh and anyone wannabjoin our laidback clan of trolling?
     
  13. k1lljoy_89

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    #4913 k1lljoy_89, Mar 2, 2013
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    Let me just piss away everything you just said by saying that I played on iPod today and enjoyed it.

    It's nothing like the iPod lag. It's weird as this shit

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    It makes my head hurt and my eyes spaz out.

    It's ****ing weird.

    iPod lag > This framerate.

    I don't know what's up with that video but it doesn't do this lag justice. I do know that there are several matches are better than others. I also know its not near as bad today as it was yesterday. In fact, I'm not even complaining anymore. It's almost like my iPad got used to it and is running it now.

    For me, it's not the amount of lag. I played on iPod too, remember? It's this particular lag and it's erratic patterns of retardary. (That just became a word). Kind of like when your waffles come out of the toaster and aren't circles anymore.

    As I said, i can still kick ass. I don't have a problem playing. It's not that I'm mad at having to play with lag, it's that I have (had) to play with lag on my $700 retina iPad, that ran it smooth as shit two days ago. It's that Gameloft should have been able to optimize this properly.

    And as I've said, it's not really doing it anymore for me, at least not that badly. So my problem is the fugged up optimization, nothing more.



    If nothing else, what you should take away from this is that toasters are evil.
     
  14. elisha11230

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    Lmao, I cant say I know what you are talking about bc Im not sure I understood all of it but ya, Its not just bad frame-rate but its also glitchy and frame jumps as well, making it more fun to not play it at all.
     
  15. guitarguy19

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    #4915 guitarguy19, Mar 2, 2013
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    It's a weird lag. I don't know how to describe it. Even the lag from mc3 on an iPod touch 4g was bearable. I think the main reason everyone's mad is that the ipad 4 should run this game like a piece of cake cuz of the a6. People paid good money for it so there shouldn't be an excuse as to why there's frame rate issues. Sloppy coding from gameloft if u ask me. I use my iPod touch for everything else, even cut the rope, those kinds of games. But the ipad 4 should be able to run hardcore games, which at this time doesn't seem to be the case

    Edit: I'm not pissed. Just annoyed the my current generation device is having issues with this game
     
  16. k1lljoy_89

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    Look out your window.
    Exactly
     
  17. 2133

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    Iphone 5 FTW. No lag!

    Anyways yeah ATC is a retarded emu shelther. :p

    Anyone tried screecher rounds on the compakt? Suprisingly well.
     
  18. LOLavi

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    Annoying as hell.

    And so theres not much lag, but its weird framerate issues? I don't really understand what you mean so Im just gonna takw your word for it.
     
  19. Rip73

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    There's some confusion here about the actual issue that has occurred with the update.
    Its not lag or server latency related.

    Its framerate pure and simple. That has no direct relationship to the server connection. Its hardware and the retina not being optimised for the chipset of the iPad 4 (or iPhone 5 for that matter).

    This article explains the difference between the two better than I can. Bear in mind the article doesn't quite exactly apply to this situation but it does give a better interpretation of it.

    http://www.mmodesigner.com/?p=82

    In this situation (roughly), the retina option has not been fully optimised or paired with the hardware of the newest devices. This has led to a pretty severe frames per second drop in all situations.

    It also has led to frame skipping and jumping which is an awkward visual experience and the main problem.
    The software and hardware communication on certain devices is the sole cause of this, it has nothing whatsoever to do with server connection or catch up, ie it is not lag.

    However, lets keep a cool head about it as well. It was a mistake in the code where retina was not meant to be fully turned on yet because the optimisation was not finished for the newer devices.

    There's a lot of code in the game, these things can sometimes happen.

    The dev team is well aware of the situation and are working very hard to fix it. They know well the impact of this bug and are very aware of the importance of getting a fix out. Which they will do as early as they can.

    Hang tough, the team in Montreal is doing there absolute best to remedy this.
     
  20. I'm sure Gameloft is aware of this and is looking into it. Give them a little time, they did come out with an update after a little bit so that Nova 3 and Wild Blood worked well with the ipad 3, I'm sure they are doing their best right now to get the retina working well on the ipad 4. Just wonder if the ipad 4 version will be ipad retina and if the ipad 3 version is not, or whether they decide to make the ipad 4 version non retina. It will be interesting.

    Give them a little time, afterall this game is one of the most Intensive console like games on ios, it's not easy to update fast and takes a long time to test.
     

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