Universal Metal Slug Defense (by SNK Playmore)

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  1. Hideus_Ex

    Hideus_Ex Active Member

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    The problem is I can't even upgrade them to Lv. 30, I'm still stuck in Lv. 20. I don't know how long is the event going to last but I don't think I'd even be able to gather enough MSP at all. And yeah I'm considering buying more of the sale units but I don't know which ones. Have you already completed the event? If so which units did you use so I buy them. And also which units do you recommend me to use to beat World 3 (So I can upgrade to Lv. 30), cause I haven't got past the second Area...
    I have some good 1000 n' something medals (and will buy more if necessary (I'm that desperate)) so I can buy lots of stuff.
     
  2. Bomb Bloke

    Bomb Bloke Well-Known Member

    You should be able to pay 500k MSP to unlock a level cap of 25, and when you reach that, a further 1mill to unlock a cap of 30 (you no longer have to spend medals, not sure when that changed). That, plus the MSP needed to pay for the actual levels, usually adds up to something like ~1.8mill per unit to go from level 20 to 30, which you can typically earn in a day by repeating Alt World 1 / Area 6 / Stage 4 (Big Shiee) over and over (+94k MSP for a hour's worth of sortie points, or only 84k if you raid it - 24 hours in a day, so a bit over two million MSP either way).

    Or are you still saving up for "home" upgrades? Certainly get that Parachute Truck upgraded! Don't be tempted to blow all your sortie points on the Event World stages yet, you won't earn much MSP by losing them.

    Beats me how long the event will last, but my guess is that it'll go until you allow an update to v1.30. Which isn't likely to even be available for a couple of weeks.

    Leona is excellent for PvE stages - spamming her (and her alone) will S-rank most of them easily. Not so useful in Alt World 3, let alone the Event World / Boss area, but if you need to collect prisoners in the other worlds she'll at least ensure you're winning the maps, getting the medals, etc. Think of her as a faster, less durable Iori / Mai (really Mai should be winning you World 3 maps anyway...). Slug Armor also cuts through PvE, and is more useful online. Samurai Planes (free unit, go unlock it) are great for actually finding the prisoners themselves.

    Event world / Boss area / Stage 3 hits you very hard, and you'll be glad to hear that Stage 4 is nearly the exact same thing. Using your AP Maxes isn't sustainable unless you've built up a lot of them, because you're going to need to capture prisoners, too.

    You mostly want units that can pierce, or at least deal splash damage (lob explosives to kill the mask soldiers, or hit them with your fliers). You need to start out with some cheap units that can kill a lot of stuff fast, thereby earning you enough AP to send out some better units.

    Allowing your crew too far forward will trigger a bunch of SF Riders, so try to make sure your units aren't grouped such that you lose your whole side when that happens.

    You'll also need to contend with a helicopter which'll kill your base very quickly if you don't knock it out of the air. On the flip side, the enemy doesn't send many attacks up there, so aerial units of your own really can help.
     
  3. Hideus_Ex

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    For a reason I really thought you could raise your Level Cap by completing World 3, I don't know where I got that from...
    I'm actually making my way through Wold 3 now (Making sure I get at least 1 POW per Stage), the problem I had with Area 2 Stage 4 was the units that spawn next to your base (I despise that).
    Anyways as far as using AP Max's I have no problem with that. Say 10 Ap Max's cost 70 medals. I'm gonna use about 20 for Stage 2 to Stage 5 so there's 140 medals and just to be sure I'll also use Radars for 1 guaranteed Pow, and also considering any I might find that might as well reduce the AP Max's I need. So about 15 Radars and 15 Ap Max maybe shouldn't cost many medals. Allthough the problem would be the Feversupply which costs 30 medals each... So I don't know anymore.
    I was considering buying the Claw Unit, the MG Unit and the Slug Armor but I'm not sure. I also already upgraded my Parachute Truck to Lv: 20.
    I'm still considering doing the AP Max, Radar, Fever "strategy" but I guess I could leave that until before the event ends in case I haven't been able to strengthen enough, and I'm not even sure if it would work cause the time I tried didn't worked out so well, but I guess it's because I kept spamming sandbags and my good units costed +350 Ap onwards, which shouldn't be a problem now that I have the Parachute Truck and I consider to buy the units mentioned above. But hey, at least it was funny watching a line of builders rushing into the battlefield so there's that.
    As far as limited items go I can reach extreme levels. I know, it's a bad habit I have, but I have no option. Unless I force myself not to push myself and then forever regret not getting the limited chopper... I blame OCD.
    Having said that which units do you recommend me to get? Is the item/supplies "strategy" viable? Should I wait and see if SNK gives a date for the event end so I try my hardest to strengthen enough and complete the bosses without wasting in items, and only do that in case the event is about to end? Should I stop writing such long questions? What units should I buy?
    Anyways, thanks for replying and hopefully you'll also reply to this. Sorry to annoy.
     
  4. Bomb Bloke

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    #3084 Bomb Bloke, Jul 25, 2015
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    Medals are useful for much longer than boosts are; you'll spend 'em all some day, and then regret having wasted any. The update's only been out a few days, so definitely hold back on blowing your resources.

    Personally, if I were to spend medals on "basic progress", I'd be using them to refill sortie points. The POW bonuses from World 3 should be your current goal, buying Home upgrades as you go and then capping out your units.

    You may or may not have picked up on this, but you randomly get more boosts when repeating certain levels. Such as the Big Shiee stage I mentioned earlier. Not often enough to make them worth grinding for, mind you, but when events etc aren't active and you've nothing left to spend MSP on you might consider burning through your sortie points every now and then anyway. Another update always comes along sooner or later to make it worthwhile.

    The Claw Unit was great back in the day; on the other hand, seeing an MG Unit in an enemy deck usually meant I was going to win that battle. Neither are much use now.

    Slug Armor is pretty decent, as things stand.

    I doubt a date will be given - I honestly believe you'll have access to the event for as long as you don't allow your game to update.

    Remember, SNK's goal here isn't to offer an exclusive unit that only some players will have - it's to make lots of people play their game. Yanking the prize away too early works against that goal. Don't be surprised if it's up for grabs for a month.

    That really doesn't matter if you don't have all the upgrades! But I reckon if you get those sorted out and max out that Parachute Truck, you'll be ok with what you've got.
     
  5. Hideus_Ex

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    #3085 Hideus_Ex, Jul 25, 2015
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    Guess I'll go for the Slug Armor then, it has always been a female dog to fight against in Wi-Fi, It's like Iori on steroids (Or a pocket Metal Slug). Might as well replace him with it.
    The problem with updates is whenever the game detects one it won't let me play unless I update, not even if I don't have connection. So my only option would be to turn off Wi-Fi until I complete the event...
    How long have past events lasted? Anyways thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it and hopefully I'll get my precious limited chopper.
    Oh, and about Leona, I don't know... I hear a lot of good stuff from her, but her slow production speed and her low health doesn't convince me, specially considering she's a melee unit so it seems like she gets herself killed pretty easily, so I'll have to wait quite a bit until I can spawn another one, like you said she's like a weaker Iori, so I'd rather keep him, but now that I think, it would be no worse than my samurai tanks, I mean I love they have a lot of health and only cost 80 Ap(And they're pretty good at finding POWs), but they're pretty unaccurate and Leona might be a better option for those levels where enemies spawn in front of your base, so you know what? Maybe I'll buy her.
    Edit: I just bought her, painful 150 medals but I guess she'll come in handy in stages where Iori or the Slug Armor are hard to get.
     
  6. xmani3k

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    And why everyone is silent about the update. This thursday is traditionally turns it came to Android. I thought they were gone until 31 July on vacations, as it was during the Christmas sales. In addition to the new units, a new special mission for which the give units. By the way missions have are pretty funny intro in the style of Mad Max. :D
     

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  7. Hideus_Ex

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    Ok, just upgraded Leona to Lv: 20 and she seems to be great. Takes almost as much punishment as Abul Abbas himself (Who I always saw as a hero when getting swarmed because of his high damage and health) even if she doesn't seem to make as much damage as him. She's still great, specially because of her, well... special.
    Well, these are my decks now:
    Deck 1:
    Native Lv:20. Not as spammable as the Mars People but they're faster and seem to have higher DPS.
    Mai Shiranui Lv: 20. Fast with great range, melee, health & special.
    Iori Yagami Lv: 20. Same as Mai but melee only with a very powerful special. Great meat shield when getting swarmed.
    King Lv: 20. Amazing range and her special makes a lot of damage.
    Parachute Truck Lv: 20. Lots of health for a low AP and also makes a lot of damage and also produces relatively quickly.
    Giant Caterpillar Lv: 20 Worked great as a meat shield, and his special makes a lot of damage. However I think with the introduction of the Parachute Truck he's not as useful anymore, will probably replace him with the Slug Armor Lv: 20. Plenty of health, relatively low AP cost and quick production speed, also tears through weak units.
    Big John Lv: 20. A lot of health for a relatively "low" AP cost. The problem is it regens quite slowly. Might be also useless now with the introduction of the Parachute Truck.
    Crablops. Lots of health just like Big John but costs way more. The advantage is this one moves and has a decent special.
    Morden Lv: 20. More expensive than the Crablops and not as much health but his special is bloody useful.
    Sol Dae Rokker. Not as much health as the Crablops again but at least more than Morden (wow). Seems to make a lot of damage and his special while unaccurate might even hit the enemy base and does decent damage.
    I normally use this deck in Wi-Fi or when trying to get S's allthough I will take your advice in using Leona for that.
    Deck 2:
    Mars People Lv: 20. More spammable than Natives. The only problem is how slow they move and attack. Health isn't really a problem as they normally stay back and can Teleport in case of danger. They're special is also great for finding POWs.
    Samurai Tanks Lv: 20. Have plenty of health for a low AP cost, they're decently fast and they're special is great. I've found 4 hidden items in a single cannon ball multiple times already. The only problem is how unaccurate they tend to be.
    Morden Bus Lv: 20. It's not so great but it has decent health so it can shield some damage and the soldiere may come in handy to distract enemies, specially the Shield Soldier.
    Abul Abbas Lv: 20. Great health, damage & speed for a fairly quick production speed. While the 3-Ton Truck isn't amazing it's always great sending one so it's keeps sending infinite arabs and the truck itself can work as a shield. Recently tried replacing him with Leona Lv: 20. And things seem to have worked out well so far. Like I stated avobe she can take almost as much punishment as Abul and costs only 80 AP. My only issue is she takes longer to regen than Abul.
    A.P.C. (Special Force) Lv: 20. Same as the Morden Bus but troops have more health. It reaches the front lines slower but at least if doesn't get scared unlike the Builder for the Morden Bus. Again I mainly only use troops to distract the enemy.
    Commander Lv: 5. Really great unit, people say it's bad because every destroyed Hover Unit gives the enemy about 100 AP, but I've never actually seen anyone being able to destroy them other than the Jupiter King and a well timed Samurai Tanks special I managed to pull.
    Regimental MH-6 S Lv: 10. Nothing amazing but it doesn't cost much and regens kinda quickly. What I love about them is that their attacks are great for finding POWs.
    And the Slug Armor, the Parachute Truck and Morden which I already explained. Also Morden's special is great for finding POWs.
    I normally use this deck in Sortie mode for finding POWs.
    Third Deck:
    Samurai Tanks, Mai, Slug Armor, Parachute Truck, Giant Caterpillar, Big John, Crablops, Di-Cokka Morden, Morden & Sol Dae Rokker.
    This is what I'll probably use in combination with AP Max. in case I get the notice the event is about to end.
    If you got any advice on what Units should I change I'll take it anytime.
     
  8. mikmsd

    mikmsd Well-Known Member

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    @Hideous_Ex

    I advise you to keep your medals to buy new units. You'll learn which units are better when you see them a lot in Wifi VS.

    I'm not losing once in my last +30 games against top players. Last time I lost was against top 4th player (some asian name). Just recently won twice against top 19th.

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    I'm on iOS waiting for the last update to try those new units!
     
  9. Bomb Bloke

    Bomb Bloke Well-Known Member

    Can't say I've had that problem. I mean, I might find I can't play online, but even then only sometimes, and the PvE maps are never affected. I skipped about the last ten updates before 1.28 entirely, and the game still launched before I went ahead and installed that.

    That said, in the Google Play Store app, I've disabled automatic updates. Doesn't stop it checking for them whenever I enter the store, but again, the game doesn't seem to care.

    Weeks, plural. About a month does sound right.

    Pit those units against each other and you'll typically find Adul dies before he can damage Leona at all. Health pool doesn't mean much if you can't be touched. Her special can block anything (even an MSA, if your timing's good enough), plus she charges it very quickly and costs very little AP, so odds are she can kill whatever she runs into before it gets a chance to strike.

    But a lot of new units have enough HP to survive a blow from it. She becomes a lot less useful after the first minute or so of battle, especially once swarms of ranged units start appearing.

    Back in the day, a lot of short-map battles were decided by who sent out their Leona first. She got hit pretty hard by the nerf hammer after that, but even today, under the right circumstances...

    Forget about AP Max, you really shouldn't need it. Plonk down for a couple of AP production upgrades, send out a Parachute Truck, and then maybe build a sandbag in front of that. Within about ten seconds you should have enough AP to play your biggest unit, which'll easily allow you to stick another Parachute Truck quite a bit further forward, and so on. If it's not working, go gather POWs outside of the Event World until it does.

    See, as far as I can tell, that truck is bugged. The rain of bombs it generates would be balanced if they exploded on impact, but instead they pierce - dealing their payload to enemies continuously for as long as they're touching, which is a long time because they fall slowly. They earn you WAY more AP than they cost to send out. The enemy has to spend WAY more AP to get rid of them than you do to replace them. They're a game breaker on every level.

    Those bombs will explode on impact in the next update, I'd bet money on it. In the meantime, the Parachute Truck beats pretty much everything - another good reason not to allow the game to update until you've cleared the event with it.

    Again, Samurai Planes are quite handy - they'll not only dislodge POWs, but they'll get all the map bonuses quickly, and since AP Tanks are best gathered right off the bat, that's a good thing. Other than that it doesn't really matter what you do.
     
  10. cyberart

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    New units are too strong! The game getting ####ing unbalance...
     
  11. Fio

    Fio Well-Known Member

    This new elephant slug (battery) - apart from the obvious, in that he is missing someone riding on his back, how else is he different? Are his attacks stronger? Does he have more life? Is there any reason to buy him over the original elephant slug we all got for free at the beginning of the game last year? The original has that penetrating fireball special attack which is too good.
     
  12. Fio

    Fio Well-Known Member

    Ease up on the language. You are new to the game, it will always be tough and challening for new players. You need to play and build up your deck. It was hard for all of us at first but gradually gets easier as we go along. Right now, the hardest thing in the game for me is finishing the missions with an S ranking without using the AP max. It's very much achievable, but is a tactical challenge which most of us enjoy. It makes it that much more satisfying when you finally achieve it.
     
  13. Bomb Bloke

    Bomb Bloke Well-Known Member

    The fireball from Tarma's elephant goes up and can hit aerial targets, if you aim it right. The lightning blast from the new elephant (which has your namesake as its rider, by the way) fires directly ahead. It uses a blue (weaker?) vulcan, instead of the yellow bullets of the fireball elephant.

    He's not kidding, though. v1.29 online battles boil down to "use Parachute Truck or lose". As I was saying in my last post, there isn't a counter that doesn't cost more AP.

    The final boss of the Event World? The special from this truck can take over half its life bar off. Could probably kill it outright, I dunno, all I can see is that the boss dies every time I fire it. This is a 250AP unit I'm talking about here.

    Whether or not the unit will be in the same state in the iOS release remains to be seen.
     
  14. Fio

    Fio Well-Known Member

    Is this GIF correct in terms of accuracy?

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    Hideus_Ex Active Member

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    #3096 Hideus_Ex, Jul 27, 2015
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    @Bomb Bloke
    Sorry, didn't really read this until guess what? I managed to beat the stages!
    I used my main Deck (Native, Mai, Iori, King, Sulg Armor, Parachute Truck, Big John, Crablops, Morden, Sol).
    I only upgraded the Truck & Slug Armor to Lv: 25. Upgraded AP & Unit production speed to Lv: 30, captured at least 1 POW on each stage of Map 3 (Except for the one that gives you faster AP & Production Speed and I dunno what else), I decided to retry, and I did it! No items or supplies! Didn't really used the Natives other than an occasional meat shield. Sending Iori and using his special to finish off that big ugly land submarine thing was definitely my most glorious moment in MSD. Well... I still need to collect the POWs but if I did it once I can do it again right?
    Thank you @Bomb Bloke @mikmsd @MSD for the tips but specially for inspiring me!
     
  17. MSD

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    it again right?
    Thank you @Bomb Bloke @mikmsd @MSD for the tips but specially for inspiring me!

    Your very welcome bro! Hope it all works out & u get everything u need! Try to collect all the POWS & upgrade ur home to MAX. It will make a difference. After u can upgrade to lvl 30 on ur units. & try to stay consistent on ur sortie points! U'll be aight!
     
  18. TheSorRoW

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    Guys any one of y'all had bought the Ptolemaic r shobu? That thing is a beast.. It pierces through all the units that it attacks (ie. Units being covered by stone turtle) and it doesn't leave like the earlier r shobus.. However it's biggest enemy is the parachute truck.. Kills it very fast and awards some decent ap to the enemy. However it's a good support unit that help knock back the enemy.. In small maps it even hits the base as it attacks the enemy (it's piercing effect) if you want to test it yourself fight against it in the event maps.. You will notice it piercing through your units and if you their a stone title you'll see it will hit through..

    Parachute it's a beast.. However it might be nerfed in a future update



    Btw this is a link to I think hyun's tier list webpage http://globalmetalslugdefense.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_11.html?m= it has information about units and all check it out guys
     
  19. Bomb Bloke

    Bomb Bloke Well-Known Member

    Good job! Go forth and conquer! B)
     
  20. MSD

    MSD Well-Known Member

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    #3100 MSD, Jul 27, 2015
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    I'm all up for aerial units but the only thing I don't like about the R shobu series is that they all die way too fast! One cannon & a lil sneeze in the face is sometimes enough to take them down! They do decent damage but for the AP they require I rather have something more useful & that will last longer on the field & will not run away after a while! And yes that parachute truck is so broken almost makes me think the unit is hacked lol I see videos of ppl playing with and against it & pretty much comes down to whoever can stack up more trucks wins! I know this unit will get nerfed next update just like all the previously debutant OP units on their respect update!
     

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