I just went again in 1v1 mode (I prefer 2v2 as it is more funny and give more medals). I have to be honest, Iori is not so devastating in 1v1 so I maybe overeacted to him... but it still the best 2v2 unit in my opinion. By the way, I read that a w. bazooka spam stop all melee unit. How can it be true in extremely short map? Note: Hi.do is AMAZING! Just got it finally
I've been playing around with the new units (Had 800 medals, decided to buy Iori and Mature), I have to say, they've impressed me. They can be pretty devastating in the early game and can counter certain rush strategies. The best part about them, imo is that they stay relevant in the late game. Mature's Spec. Atk has helped me turn games around since it acts as a slow moving shield and blocks every projectile until it either reaches max range or strikes a unit. The best part about it is the REALLY low cooldown on it, as well as having a decent amount of i-frames. Her biggest weakness, I would say, is the range and nature of her long range attack. Ironically, her long range on it is actually really detrimental for the type of unit she's supposed to be (support) and oftentimes she will rush to your enemy's front line and suicide. I completely understand as to why she has an attack like that though, if she were to have say, Kyo's long range attack, it would be way too easy to stack her and ultimately create a wall that could only be breached by penetrating attacks. (Karn, Shoe, Patrol Bot etc.) Onto Iori, he's honestly an early game monster, and serves as a Leona on steroids. His kit includes a long range attack that lets him advance through the field quickly WHILE attacking, as well as knocking back units with a low tagger threshold. His spec. atk has a short range but deals massive damage to units in both land and sky, as well as having a fantastic amount of i-frames. Late game you'd want to shield his advance to the enemy front line so that he could completely devastate it. Now for counters I'v encountered. These three new units have one huge advantage over other rush units, their basic attack allows them to reach your front line very quickly and take out the unit, or units, in front. I've seen a lot more Native and W. Bazooka spam pop-up to counter this. The strategy is having the KoF unit lock onto the unit leading the bunch and start the attack animation while the units behind it deal damage. Since these new units, especially Iori, can't be spam summoned, while Natives and W. Bazooka can, it gives the spammer some time to breathe and allows them to stack even more units. Paratroopers work really well with this strategy, as they stop the KoF from using their long range attack until the paratrooper lands which gives you ample time to spam units. It definitely reminds me of the days Native rush spam was a thing, and now it seems we've come a bit full circle. In any case, I've been trying to get used to the new deck I've built, as well as trying to find strategies that combat the one above using the new KoF units. Currently my deck looks like: -W. mortar -Mature -Iori -Patrol Bot -Ptolemaic Slug -Sarubia PM -Airborne Melty Honey -Slug Flyer -Hi-Do -Robert Morden It's a mess, I know, but I'm always subbing in a variety of units trying to find a balance I like. Edit:I just saw a really odd interaction, if any of the new KoF units reach a Mars People Cadre While the Cadre is using it's spec. atk the KoF unit will just stand in place until the attack is finished
Maybe it's because Iori is the cool guy or people can't afford easily the three new units, that not many people bought Mature, but you're right, she is a little bit OP, I've been rushed by Iori about 4-5 times today, but the only time I've encountered Mature all I could think was why won't she dieeeee. I Honestly think this team is way stronger than the Kyo team. My counter is easy either bazooka or mortar, super effective if there's a tankey unit on front like a mortar or any armored vehicle, the Kyo team can't get past a few soldiers, the Iori team when properly used will devastate.
Now if there was only a reason to believe use Vice... I am loving seeing people take another approach to meta instead of the mortar defense game. Some units still could use some love imo but the past few days have been really fun for me compared to prior to this patch where almost every team was mortar stacking.. Another note on Mature, her special can one shot suicide bikers and prevent them from hitting your front line in early game. Awesome design. I would love to see more support units.
I think Mature is too weak so I wouldn't want her in my deck. What about Hi-Do though... everyone here seems to be getting that but I already have Robot Morden and General Morden... is it worth having a 3rd on your deck?
Definitely Hi-do! He is a must have. In fact, I would pick him over Donald Morden or Jupiter King anyday. Hi-do has one of the best specials. I don't think Iori is overpowered, but he is one of the top units. A lot of players just expect their single leona or rush unit to beat Iori ... and that is not going to happen. I noticed a lot of players just spam a unit when they have enough ap. Sometimes its better to wait to have enough ap to send 2 units at once instead of 1. People have been saying that 300 medals is a lot for each of the previous kof units ( it was for the last group). Now that we have Iori, who is worth the medals( to me at least). I find it really ironic that people are complaining hes too strong. Don't you want a strong unit if your going to be spending 300 medals? If anything, I think they should increase the ap cost to 160 and maybe increase the production rate by a little bit. The unit itself shouldn't be weakened. Instead of asking for a nerf, we should be asking for buffs to older units, especially the free ones like the elephant or pow rewards. There is always going to be a power issue with the new units. Lets be honest, not many people are going to spend medals on the new unit releases unless they are strong. SNK just needs to make sure that the older units can stand a chance against the new units.
frankly speaking all the kof only cost 90 medals before the 70% discount medal sale. just one of the snk strategies...
How ironic you state cheating is bad and ranting about when you cheat yourself. Here let me show you the self-incriminating evidence that you posted a while back. Whoops, looks like someone didn't cover their tracks well. Nice 949716 medals you got there, bet it took at huge hit since this came up. Surprised the other forum users didn't notice this back waaaaayyyy back then. Oh, btw, I'm only calling you out on this because you complain about cheating when you cheat yourself. Like I said before, I hate fighting over the internet it gets nothing done. But I'm just calling you out just because you're a hypocrite. Not cool. And oh if you say you changed, Once a Cheater, More Likely a Cheater Again Now I'm done.
Bahahaha!! I had to log in just to laugh/comment at the whiny hacker getting "out hacked ". Hahahaha!! HYUN is so effing funny. Good eye on that one, Man. Anyway, my morden deck seems to still be holding up well despite the nerf of the elite arab. See page 218 for details. Im referring to the all morden bonus 10% deck i posted. Im taking any advice on deck composition in regards to the most current update. Thanks for all your help again forum. You guys all rock! And this last bit is a side note, but i believe it is, without a doubt, FAR more important what and how many POWs you have released. Not so much what units you have. Obviously having both is best, but would you guys say for newer players, its almost better to buy radars rather than units in order to unlock the most crucial POWs?
Have any ideas on how to confront the two Iori in 2v2 game, in the early game, and your partner saves the AP or let to the battle grenade soldiers?
I was just disgusted he constantly complains about hackers when he hacks. One of the things I hate the most are hypocrites, and look at him. I wasn't gonna say anything, but this was the last straw. And no, you should not buy the radar for units, it's a rip-off. You might as well buy units that are good at releasing POWs, the best being Donald Morden (950 AP one). Another good POW releasing unit that does do work in PvP as well is the Black Hound and Patrol Bot.
He sounded so honorable and confident in his claims too. "Rightfully claim my place at the top". Yeah, the top of a big pile of elephant slug sh!t. Those statements are what people refer to as "delusions of grandeur". Im actually lmao a little bit. Such a good way to start my morning.
Probably he is not an hacker... you can farm 150 medals per day (if you have nothing better to do in your life), so if he was playing each day during last 17 years he could have reached that numbers... (oh, wait, this game didn't existed 17 years ago, so he is a f*****g b*****d hacker!) Well seen Hyun! By the way, i still think the best POW rescue is what i call the "confusion pack": Fio Zombie marco Soldier with their specials I rescued almost all POW with them in few attempt! Obviously you need 10 min per stage using their speecial even if not needed (only randomly)
Tough luck if you have a greedy teammate, you're gonna need to work together to take down a double Iori. 2v2 seriously is about teamwork, no matter how good your deck is, its gonna fail against a team if your teammate doesn't contribute.
dabossofu, if that sorry I judge too fast, but why you bouth more medals than the sum of all units toguether???? What are you planning to do with that?
dabossofu, why are you being so aggressive? It appears you can't have a discussion without raging. Your responses don't make you seem like you are 26 or older. When you are around that age I would hope you could talk to people in a mature manner. Try having a discussion without such a condescending attitude. People here would treat you seriously if you were more respectful.
Alright tough guy, let put the math on the test and see how realistic your claims are. Medals are at 2x sale right now, with it being it half off, so for a $100 you get 3185 medals. Let's just use the current medal count that was shown onscreen. 949,716/3185 = 298.18 298.18*100 = $29,818 total. But you probably didn't start with 949,716, lets say the max medal count that could happen. 999,999/3185 = 313.97 313.97*100 = $31,397 total. I seriously doubt anyone that obsessive over a game would fork over more than $500, you just sound like a pile of bullcrap if you ask me. With even $200, it should be more than enough to buy every unit and everything. Um, that's the biggest piece of bullshit I've heard, I'm sure other people that ran into me in wi-fi can vouch I don't anything wrong. Unlike you, who has no one. Oh hm.... What was that you were saying? I love I'm being the spokesperson, I'm not, just a person that hates people that are egotistical like no other with no manners, which you are. Wonder why you were banned last time? Yeah. Oh and btw, maybe I might believe you were balling like that if you weren't such a rude person. Trust me, you got no class, and that's sad, cause this is just a game. Maybe you treat people in a better manner, so they actually believe you. Just my two cents. Now ciao!
Last night, I decided to man-spam, rush with winter bazooka/rocket/rifle combo and flood my opponent early game. I immediately ran into top 500th player with benimaru and standard s rank deck, jupiter king, Hi-Do, A. Melty, W. Mortar, etc. He opened with benimaru everytime and my rush stop that quite effectively... in the first 3 game which I only won 1 of them once airborne melty is in. The next three game, he figured my strategy and use tanks and karn to shut down my rush. Well, I got 6 medal from that, so thank you. Now I need your opinion on my current deck and my plan - Sandbag - W. Bazooka - W. Rifle - W Rocket - Giant Caterpillar (Reinstated in need for tanky unit to cover my rush) - Elite arabian night - Cyborg morden - Slug Flyer - Metal Rear - Hi-Do Eyes on - Airborne Melty Honey - Leona (The only unit I can afford to outrun my winter soldiers combo) - Benimaru ( Yeah, With 198 Medal and earning <10 medals pay day, When I can afford this unit, SNK will probably nerf this unit already)
