Universal Metal Slug Defense (by SNK Playmore)

Discussion in 'iPhone and iPad Games' started by PeteOzzy, May 1, 2014.

  1. Hyun

    Hyun Well-Known Member

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    One thing to note, Hi-Do's special cooldown took some PED, that thing has literally little cooldown for what it could do.
     
  2. SRaven

    SRaven Active Member

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    I think Iori and Daimon are 2 of the strongest unit of the game (Kyo maybe also and I would revaluate Benimaru...).
    Anyway At the end you are right I'm maybe overeacting... If they stop to put all KoF in metal slug it would not be a big deal...

    I agree that PK deck is still not feasible due to the lack of 2 bosses, in fact I'm working on my rebel deck

    1)LV armor
    2)W. Mortar
    3)(Shabou? Melty honey? Elite arabian soldier? Sarubia? Grida? W bazooka?)
    4)Patrol robot
    5)Airburne melty honey
    6)R.R.Shabou
    7)Shoe
    8)Karn
    9)Donal Morder
    10)Hi do
     
  3. casualgamer27

    casualgamer27 Well-Known Member

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    I like the addition of kof units, but I can see how people are upset since it's two updates in a row. They should mix it up instead of releasing back to back weeks of kof units.

    Going to get Iori because there's finally a good rebel kof and it fits in my rebel deck =) . I'm hoping less rebel units in updates and more boss units for the other classes
     
  4. chigga64

    chigga64 Well-Known Member

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    hyun, peace and respect your opinion on KOF units in MSD... afterall i guess they are fun to use

    about the KOF units in MSD, my views are:
    - ralf/leona/clark is totally fine for me because they have actually appeared in some episdoes of metal slug before as mercenary troop, AND as a matter of fact they are actually holding some metal slug weapons in MSD, so it still feels like playing MSD when using them
    - having more KOF units such as kyo/ben/daimon is a bit strange (personally speaking), but as SNK is using "Celebration of KOF 20th anniversary" as an excuse, fair enough if only just a few
    - and now this time Iori/mature/vice... honestly who knows how many will SNK deploy, particulary when there are still other classic MSD units that SNK can consider to deploy.
    - coupled with the fact that all these KOF units costs 300 medals each, what really annoys me is how SNK is trying to rip-off here via intro of these outside characters...

    afterall, SNK objective is to make $$, so i guess thats reasonable if thinking from their perspective in trying to induce us from purchasing using real $$.

    about iori, he cant win by himself, by surely gives a lot of pressure to the opponents team when seeing him. yes, your w. bazooka team may actually work against melee units in general too. i m interested to learn about this unit from you too actually (e.g. how to use and its weakness), as i m consider buying it.

    about saru VPM, is not 100% knockback but i would say fairly high chance and effective when used properly.
     
  5. Don Thrash

    Don Thrash Member

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    It's crazy how in just a few weeks the meta has changed entirely (at least in 2v2). Rush deck are pretty rampant, mortars a bit more rare, and KoF characters almost guaranteed in every battle. The unit buffs are also pretty huge, LV armor has definitely become not only viable, but very strong in early decks. Tar Man has fallen off a bit, but they still can have a place in some specific decks. Overall, patches 17 and 18 have really shaken things up.
     
  6. Hyun

    Hyun Well-Known Member

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    Guessing the main gripe is the medal cost, which I do partially agree with, should be at max 200 medals a pop, I would pay 200 for Iori.
    Iori I have really no problems yet, just send in my usual wave of winter bazookas, support them with the now awesome LV armor (Good bye Tar Man, you were only good for spam purposes, offensively LV armor is so much better). Seriously, cheap spammy units will counter Iori, Winter Bazooka is optimal, since his special is infinite range and you might as well get some poke damage. Spammy units makes the Iori user really waste his special, and I noticed after his special, recovery frames are so long it makes him most vulnerable and easiest to kill. Not a problem for me, just more chewing melee users for my Winter Bazookas (Which they do a fantastic job of doing and now that Winter Bazookas' main counter of Tar Men are gone, they can now have a field day)

    If the Brain Robot from the missions are released, I can see an Alien/Martian deck working, thats the final piece they really needed.

    I hope the Ptolemaic gets some love, they have the best mid-game units but they lack the late game to pull them through.
     
  7. SRaven

    SRaven Active Member

    Feb 20, 2015
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    I start think that SNK allowed hacking to have a "trailer" of kof unit!
    Then they released that but underpowered (where they were not released yet they where stronger...) to convence everyone to buy it...

    same with keesi and brain robot? (I expect a 400 medals release for a strong but not so so much unit...)

    They probably didn't released them because they didn't found the right compromise
     
  8. Hyun

    Hyun Well-Known Member

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    Respect the other users' opinion as well, just thinking the hate on KOF is a bit too much. Medal price, however is another issue I can agree with.

    I can see W. Bazooka being more popular now, I haven't lost a single match so far with an Iori in it. The key of playing W. Bazooka is not be too greedy and rapid fingers. When the game starts, I tap one AP upgrade and spawn 4~5 Winter Bazooka. If the opponent responds with an effective counter, I stop and focus on letting my Winter bazooka get their specials off to do poke damage. If they don't, keep them coming mixed with LV armor (Keep an eye out of the MSA bar). By the time the MSA strikes, you should be at least past the 200 ap upgrade. By then, your mid-game should be able to correctly answer Iori, if not the deck needs work. W. Bazooka is mainly used to deter melee units, they absolutely wrecks Benimaru, Leona, Elite Arabian, Claw Unit. Only somewhat problematic units are Bear and Daimon, with Daimon being the main threat of killing the whole W. Bazooka line. Iori is no different, take some spacing control and rapid fingers and Iori maybe shredding soldiers, but you are going to come out on top later on. Also for 10 medals? Why not? Whats the worst that can happen?

    Also, hackers seems to be cleared as of now, probably easy to weed out thanks to awesome new ranking system! Ranked 2258th worldwide, how about you guys?
     
  9. SRaven

    SRaven Active Member

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    #2149 SRaven, Feb 20, 2015
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    Still have to learn...
    4036 th!

    But today I will have Hi-Do (20 medals left)...
    Rebel deck closer (with 1 spot still undefined)
     
  10. misogi

    misogi Well-Known Member

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    2v2 works out at exactly 1 medal per victory, including score bonus. 300 games = KOF upgrade
     
  11. casualgamer27

    casualgamer27 Well-Known Member

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    I agree winter bazooka is underrated. However Iori is definitely strong. He's a beast if you have other units to support. Don't just send Iori by himself and expect miracles. I like how he has a semi dash in his attack frame. I only use his special when there's a group of enemies. Not sure if special damages air units a lot. He's not as op as others have said but he's real tough in a rebel deck
     
  12. Hyun

    Hyun Well-Known Member

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    #2152 Hyun, Feb 20, 2015
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    Jeez stop the passive aggression, don't always expect an answer to your questions in an instant, even if the users are online now, just makes you look like you a big case of self-entitlement and generally giving a bad vibe.

    Hold off, thats my main advice for now. Iori is a strong unit, but 1st day, can't give too much info on that.

    edit: And don't you already have Karn? Judging from your previous post you do already have a Karn. Unless you're talking about Shoe (Brown). Karn is gray with a missile ramp and Shoe is brown without the ramp.
     
  13. Neridine

    Neridine Member

    Feb 20, 2015
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    Hi new user here,

    I think the new kof units are great and a lot of fun.
    Snk has a great universe of characters and I wouldn't even mind seeing some samurai shodown chars added. The price is fair too, especially given that you can accrue medals via tap joy. In areas that isn't possible I apologize, but even spending a little here and there occasionally isn't really that much of a stretch is it? Just don't buy up every unit. At least it's not a gacha system...

    That all being said, I've had a terrible time since the patch on my iphone 5s. Keep hanging during ads and the status bar with my carrier/time/battery displays in game affecting what parts of screen are affected by touch...soooooo annoying..anyone else getting this?
     
  14. casualgamer27

    casualgamer27 Well-Known Member

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    Just advice for people that are limited in medals.. The new kof units are not the best or even necessary units. You see many people using it, which is a bad and good thing. If everyone is starting to use the kof units in more rush type deck, just counter it with the correct units (like how hyun mentioned the winter bazooka).

    Yes the 300 medals is ridiculous, but hey everyone is still willing to spend the medals or cash for the pack. So far I have seen at least 1 new kof unit on the opponents team in 2v2 for all the battles I have played today.

    Btw I dont think any new unit updates are going to be cheap. The increase in medals for new units its going to stay. Hopefully not 300 though. Why? Based on the tapjoy rewards, all the medal rewards for completing tapjoy offers have went up. Usually 2-3 medals for app installed and now its almost always 5. For the bigger offers, I saw about 20% to 30% more medals for completing the offer.

    Snk really needs to buff the lower tier units and free units. It seems like stronger and stronger units are being released because no one will buy any new units if they weak haha.
     
  15. Valerian

    Valerian Member

    Feb 20, 2015
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    Hi Neridine
    I git the same problem of unplaybility !!
    The timer of the phone now appear in game and the bottom buttons are unpushable !!
    It juste become unplayable !
     
  16. Neridine

    Neridine Member

    Feb 20, 2015
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    I tried restarting the app in airplane mode and it seemed to fix it..for now. You may want to try giving it a shot.

    On another note,
    Looks like Matures special travels a long distance and acts as a full on projectile blocker. It's like a moving shield. Very nice!
     
  17. Tizona

    Tizona Active Member

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    After the lastest update, my game lagged so bad I have to restart my iPad and it's fixed!? WTH

    I wasn't able to get into 2v2 lately because my connection is bad around here. I got stomp by w.mortar spam and melty honeys air/ground combo frequently though. Although my team is probably getting stomp on regular basis.

    Tar man seem to get nerfed badly though. At green map shiee boss, I use tar man to clear the first wave which they usually survived, but not after update though.

    Also, I need to change my strategy since tar man won't pass through melty honey and w. mortar are having a field day behind them.

    My current team
    - Iron Iso
    - Sandbag
    - W Mortar
    - Hopper (Suicidal spamming unit early game, I hope this works.)
    - Elite arabian
    - Cyborg Allen
    - Slug Flyer (The only anti air unit in this deck, I am so dead.)
    - Metal Rear
    - Hi-do
    - Donald Morden
    Medals Left - 158

    Wishlist (But Highly impractical)
    - Patrol Bot
    - Jupiter King

    May purchase soon
    - Airborne Melty Honey
    - Red Shobu
     
  18. Fio

    Fio Well-Known Member

    You're not alone. I don't mind some of the characters, eg Leona, Ralf and Clark, but adding the rest makes it loose it's unique appeal. Now it's like KOF vs MS!
     
  19. Fio

    Fio Well-Known Member

    Big time nerf coming up... always happens.
     
  20. anistoona

    anistoona Member

    Jan 21, 2015
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    Hi Tizona..
    I am new here, but like you I am depending on w.Mortar too , and as for me I found that Sarubia V PM is so useful as a wall to protect both my W.Mortar & P.Bot.
    I am using Sarubia beside airborn milky honey, coz the later is so slow but useful thought to protect against Hunter Walker and Hi Do special
     

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