iPad Mafia LIVE : Hints and Tips

Discussion in 'iPhone and iPad Games' started by TheIrishMafia, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. TheIrishMafia

    TheIrishMafia Member

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    I keep seeing plenty of threads dedicated to sharing Family Codes (the crack cocaine of Mafia Live), but precious few that actually share any useful information on how to actually PLAY the game. So here are a few of the Tips I've picked up in the last few weeks.
    Extra Note: in all the Family Code postings, posters keep saying things like "Join a big powerful Family for Protection". Apparently these people haven't caught on to the fact that using a family Code to 'join' a Family just means you have added one more family member to your own Family count. Your family members don't bring along any money, weapons, etc --- it's just like adding a Mercenary.

    To Start with:
    How Family Size affects Fights
    Family Size by itself has no effect on your Fights, but the larger your Family, the more items you can bring to the fight, which has a major impact.
    Each Family member you can bring to the fight will include a weapon, a defense, and a vehicle from your inventory (adding the att/def values for those items). Note that Family members do NOT bring anything other than what you give them.
    For example, if you have 100 Family members, but you only own 1 pistol, 1 AK-47, one helmet, and one Town Car, you are only bringing 4 items to the fight. If you own 100 AK-47 rifles, they will all add to your attack.
    So, you should try to own as many weapons & defenses as you have family members (and no more).

    Feel free to add me to your Family (the more the merrier)
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  2. TheIrishMafia

    TheIrishMafia Member

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    Why You Need AK-47s and Helmets

    Why You Need AK-47s and Helmets
    If you are involved in a Fight, every Family member you have will bring along a weapon and defense item out of your inventory.
    Since the AK-47 and the Helmet do not require any upkeep cost, you can stock as many as you can afford without them sucking away your income.
    So, at a minimum, you should try to own as many AK-47s and Helmets as you have Family members.

    Feel free to add me to your Family (the more the merrier)
    831 423 869
    TheIrishMafia@hotmail.com
     
  3. TheIrishMafia

    TheIrishMafia Member

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    Why you shouldn't be running a Debt

    Why you shouldn't be running a Debt
    I was curious to find out what would happen if you ran your Family with a large negative income - and I can now pass along my 'learning experience'.
    For those starting out: You can generate a constant stream of income by buying Real Estate. You also lose money as an upkeep cost for many of your items.
    Since there are reasons to NOT have a net income (refer to posts on Stealing Income), I was curious what would happen if you didn't generate ANY revenue from Real Estate, and just operated at loss.
    At FIRST, this seemed to have no negative effect: money wasn't being taken from the bank account, inventory didn't change, etc. However, this behavior will eventually piss off the Godfather enough that he will take away ALL items that have an upkeep cost, as well as cleaning out your entire Bank Account (net loss for me was around 5 million).
    So, the lesson learned is: Make sure to balance your income and expenses so you're not operating at a loss.

    Feel free to add me to your Family (the more the merrier)
    831 423 869
    TheIrishMafia@hotmail.com
     
  4. TheIrishMafia

    TheIrishMafia Member

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    Stealing Income (and why a big Income can be painful)

    Stealing Income (and why a big Income can be painful)
    As most of you know, when you pick a Fight with another Family, if you win the Fight you will walk away with some of that Family's cash-on-hand (money that is not stored in the Bank). This is actually a GREAT way to make money, IF you choose your Fights wisely. Instead of picking random fights from the Fight tab, you should be looking at the details for a family (by clicking the green Family box, or the link for the Family name) and picking fights with Families that:
    1) You know you can beat (see posts on Picking Fights)
    2) Have a lot of income generating Real Estate
    Picking a fight with a Family that owns 10 Jewelery Stores, but hasn't equipped a lot of weapons, can nab you tens of thousands in cash.
    The key here, though, is that if you find a real cash cow, you can CONTINUE to steal money from them by navigating back to your My Hood tab and scrolling down to the Recent Fights. If you click on the Family name link from your most recent fight, it will open the screen for that Family --- which includes the button for "Fight this Family". You can continue picking fights as long as you both have the Health to fight.
    The additional lesson here is: Don't let money accumulate from income! It just makes you a target, if you aren't protecting it well enough. Until you can field a pretty big army, your income should be just enough to fund the stuff you own.

    Feel free to add me to your Family (the more the merrier)
    831 423 869
    TheIrishMafia@hotmail.com
     
  5. aprodigalson

    aprodigalson Well-Known Member

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    #5 aprodigalson, Feb 6, 2009
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2009
    This is exactly the reason that I deleted the app today. I was tooling along fairly well. I had a good size mob (400+), growing properties (including 10 jewelry stores) and I was still level 8. As soon as the level 46 'The Dark Lord' found me, the game no longer became about playing, it became about trying to scavenge whatever money I could save before he bent me over yet again.

    With no bulletin system to call to your mob-mates for help, you just have to sit there and suffer it. After four or five days, I finally just said screw it, sold my properties and deleted the app after a level 56 found me this morning. It was bad enough with one, but two... no thanks. I'm sorry, but people forty or fifty levels above your level attacking you 9 or so times each and every hour, on the hour, you can't defend against that. The way I see it, that's not strategy, that's harassment.

    As far as I'm concerned the game is broken.

     
  6. DirtyAl

    DirtyAl Active Member

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    If it will make you feel any better, Dark Lord is my bitch, I am always raping him taking all of his money so it happens to him also not just you.
     
  7. aprodigalson

    aprodigalson Well-Known Member

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    I'm assuming there's near parity in the two of your levels. That seems fair, I don't mind a fair fight. But how the hell is a level 8 supposed to go up against an arsenal that someone 40 levels higher would have? It's just a fundamental flaw of the game.

    It does explain his insatiable appetite for my money though. ;)
     
  8. DirtyAl

    DirtyAl Active Member

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    #8 DirtyAl, Feb 6, 2009
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2009
    I am not sure how he is attacking you. I only see people around my levels on the fight screens. It needs to be balanced more. I have been getting attacked late at night when I am sleeping; drives me nutz. I lose millions of dollars while I sleep so I feel your pain.

    *Also another hint is to attack people until your health is below 20. When you are below 20 in health noone can attack. I always make sure my health is below 20 when I am making big purchases with money I take out the bank.*
     
  9. TRIPLE BEAM DREAM

    TRIPLE BEAM DREAM Well-Known Member

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    Door County
    Lame

    I deleted this game this morning, even with having a family size of 3,200+. This a.m. all my vehicles, yachts, armored limo's & armor were taken away due to running a negative balance. They needed to have an option were a large payment or payments could be made to the Godfather. I didn't want to mess around with all the property's. All my money was made through fighting/stealing and doing jobs. In the end, grew tired of all the add me $h*t.
     
  10. TheIrishMafia

    TheIrishMafia Member

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    Most likely he's able to attack you because he's a membere of your Family. Yes, your Family members can indeed attack you. You just go to your family list and click on someone's name, and you're taken to that person's public screen --- which has the "Attack this Family" button.
    Completely unethical, and one of the many ways the app is broken.

    This is why you really can't count on building wealth through real estate until you can mount a good sized army (and there will always be someone with a bigger army).

    low levels are even more susceptible until the bank becomes available
     
  11. aprodigalson

    aprodigalson Well-Known Member

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    More out of curiosity than anything, I reinstalled the app. Sure enough, they were both members of my mob. I think from now on in mafia type apps I'm only going to add people from sites or forums I can go back to and call out. I mean, even as broken as iMob is at least you have the ability to leave that person comments or send out a bulletin to your mob.
     
  12. Alpha___Omega

    Alpha___Omega New Member

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    436 203 719

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  13. 78er

    78er Member

    I delete this game today due for self-destroying my account and equipment. Thats stupid. My income was -200k but on my bank acc was +20M, no warnings, nothing, i lost toons of weapons on lvl 38. F**k that!
     
  14. TheIrishMafia

    TheIrishMafia Member

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    Mafia LIVE : How Fights are calculated

    The Godfather recently posted the updated formula for how Fights are calculated in Mafia LIVE. For those of you who haven't seen the post, here's how fights scores are calculated:
    1) The amount of attack strength in your equipment (only YOUR equipment matters, ie if John is in your family and he has XYZ weapon, those weapons do not matter). You may only use one weapon, one armor, and one vehicle PER family member.

    2) Your attack/defense score is then multiplied by some number and then added to your equipment score (a lot of tuning went into finding the balance here) NOTE: attack score matters when you are Attacking, defense score matters when you are defending an attack. Only YOUR attack/defense matter, your family members' stats have no influence. Your family size does have an effect of how much your attack/defense scores are magnified, but the effect is limited in scope. (took a while to derive that balance)

    3) There is a little luck factor involved as well.

    Note that this means it's NOT simply a matter of adding up all the weapons your Famliy brings to the fight --- your Attack and Defense scores DO make a difference, as well as a modifying factor based on your Family size. And a little 'luck' thrown in to the mix.

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  15. TheIrishMafia

    TheIrishMafia Member

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    Mafia LIVE: Negative Cashflow

    Following up on my earlier post, confirmed the rules on how having a negative cashflow will now affect you:
    1) If you do not have cash to pay for upkeep, it will come directly out of your bank.
    2) If your bank account reaches 0, weapons/armor/vehicles (starting from the most expensive) will be confiscated by the Godfather WITHOUT reimbursement until your cashflow is positive.

    A lot of people were caught by surprise on this change last week, so you want to make sure you're not running at a negative income, before your bank account gets depleted.

    831 423 869
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  16. TheIrishMafia

    TheIrishMafia Member

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    Mafia LIVE; Best return on Real Estate

    I was going to post a more detailed breakdown, but then discovered that a few folks have posted spreadsheets online, so I'm just going to post a link to the full spreadsheet.
    http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pAJZJ-Cme8eLoLrklvUGacQ
    The quick and dirty information for beginning players is that you should focus on Shacks and Hot Dog Stands in equal measure, until you can start buying Gas Stations and Jewelry Stores --- they all provide roughly the same return on investment. You should never be holding empty property, and there's little reason to be saving up money on the high cost properties (they have lower ROI than the cheaper properties), until later in the game, when you're rolling in cash.

    831 423 869
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  17. TheIrishMafia

    TheIrishMafia Member

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    Mafia LIVE: Best Jobs

    The best job for Experience is still the Bank Job, with a return of 1.33 exp for each Energy spent, but only an average of $766/pt. At higher levels, the only choice is between the Ransom Cop (1.28:1 $5,714) and Raid NYC Fed (1.16:1 $5,833). The gains of the top four jobs are still offset by the upkeep costs of the gear required to run them.

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  18. appreviewer

    appreviewer Well-Known Member

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    Ok, stop. Four threads about a stupid Mafia game? Really. Arn, please shut these down...they just clutter the forums
     
  19. *Mason*

    *Mason* Active Member

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    Fergie's humps.
    Honestly, who asked for this information?
     

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