iPad Looking for Theme Feedback on ScribBall

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  1. AndyKorth

    AndyKorth Well-Known Member

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    Hello folks,
    We're the developers of ScribBall, a casual physics color matching game for the Mac and iPhone.

    We recently updated our graphics, but were a bit dismayed when we found a handful of people really disliked our changes. So it seemed like the best way to make everyone happy (or as close as possible..) would be to let users pick the themes.

    However, we don't want to make the same mistake as we did last time, so I'd like to hear some opinions about what we've got lined up- so we can get some customer feedback _before_ pushing out an update to everyone.

    Here's the original color theme:
    http://kortham.net/temp/ScribBallClassic.png

    And here's the new pencil theme:
    http://kortham.net/temp/ScribBallPencil.png

    This is the one that had some mixed reactions. Some people felt it wasn't as bright or colorful as the other original. To respond to that, we made a new brighter theme:

    http://kortham.net/temp/ScribBallBright.png

    Finally, we're addressing a request for color blind mode:
    http://kortham.net/temp/ScribBallColorBlind.png

    We'd particularly appreciate feedback on color blind mode, if the colors are easy to differentiate, etc.

    Finally, we've got a lot of themes in the Mac version of ScribBall that we could move over. There are some screenshots here: http://howlingmoonsoftware.com/scribball.shtml Any requests?

    Thank you all very much for the feedback!

    -Andy Korth
    Howling Moon Software
     
  2. Monopoly

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    Leaving feed back in a second :)
     
  3. IAmAlive

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    I am partially colorblind and I could easily differentiate the colors in ''colorblind mode''.

    The themes all look fantastic.
    I prefer the pencil theme to the original though.
     
  4. Monopoly

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    Wow first off all of those graphics look reallly nice so good job to you guys :)

    I'd have to say my favorite was the Scribball Pencil, it makes the whole thing very easy to look at and fits perfectly with the "handdrawn" theme of the game.

    I also loved the backgrounds on the Mac version, if you could figure a way to port the "Scream" background (i think thats what it was) into the iPod version that would be amazing :D

    Overall though everything looks very good, I hadnt really heard of this game and Im now tempted to buy it...if only I hadnt just gotten a speeding ticket...damn :p
     
  5. pablo19

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    I prefer the "bright" one over all other ones;)
     
  6. butters

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    Wow, right now i am seriously considering to buy this, after i've seen all those screenshots.

    From the 'original' screens i prefer the pencil graphics and i really like the idea of putting graphics for colorblind people in there.

    But whatever you will do or not do, please import those graphics from the Desktop version. The 8bit graphics are just pure goodness and those Edvard Munch like graphics are amazing!

    Screw me, i'm gonna get this either way, but PLEASE convert those two! :D
     
  7. Tennisking1o1

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    For the colorblind mode I think you should do something like what Trism did and add patterns or something inside the balls. I was having a hard time differentiating the colors, although if I really tried I could.
     
  8. AndyKorth

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    I'm glad to hear that it's helpful! We could only simulate color blindness, not test it ourselves.

    It also sounds like people have a variety of opinions, so the update with the theme picker should be well received!
     
  9. Monopoly

    Monopoly Well-Known Member

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    Maybe a lite version so financially impared people like me can try it out before buying? :)
     
  10. Heh. Someone else mentioned "the scream theme" above. I assume both of you are referring the the Van Gogh theme due to it's similar painting style. I guess this means that we'll need to be adding a "Scream Theme" as well. :)
     
  11. butters

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    Munch, van Gogh, Beethoven, Jimmy Carter, whatever... Just do that artsy painting thingy! :p
     
  12. BrettArchibald

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    #12 BrettArchibald, Mar 2, 2009
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    As one of the people who voiced their complaints about the changes, I would be very very VERY happy to see some themes applied to this game!!! :) :) :)

    Personally, I was a great fan of the original (ScribBallClassic.png) and did/do not like the current new theme at all (ScribBallPencil.png). :(
    However, whilst I do think that the proposed new brighter theme (ScribBallBright.png) is a million times better than the pencil theme, I think it *might* perhaps be a little bit *too* bright. Maybe... Could only give a final verdict when viewed on the iPhone. Probably not though... It's probably just great as it is... ;)
    Anyway, if it's a choice between the bright theme and the pencil theme, then I'd kill to get the bright theme implemented.
    If the choice of all themes is implemented for me to choose from, then that's even better! :)

    Whilst not being colour-blind myself, I can't personally comment on the colour-blind version (ScribBallColorBlind.png) in terms of its validity and practicality, but I will say that I do like the general look of it.
    And I'd still pick this one over the pencil theme.

    Finally, with regards to the themes available on the Mac desktop version of the game, I must say I'm not really a great fan of any of the ones I can see.
    Certainly none that I would prefer over the bright or colour-blind themes mentioned above.
    If I had to pick one, I'd say screenshot5.jpg.
     
  13. HJJ

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    I had no problem with the original theme, but I feel the newest theme looks more polished and deliberate. Either one is fine by me. I am a big fan of these types of hand drawn themes. :)

    One question... I noticed a game called Crayon Ball has been recently released. What is the difference between that and Scribball?
     
  14. tylerjhutchison

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    #14 tylerjhutchison, Mar 2, 2009
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    basically they are the exact same game... but this might be helpful. It is from the about section of Crayon Ball.
    [​IMG]
     
  15. tylerjhutchison

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    ... coming soon Jimmy Carter theme :rolleyes:
     
  16. AndyKorth

    AndyKorth Well-Known Member

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    Crayon Ball was an experiment for us. We're trying a new name (that is easier to pronounce), a new icon, and we're not really promoting Crayon Ball. So far it's been selling fairly well.
     
  17. AndyKorth

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    The new ScribBall with new themes is now under review by Apple!
     
  18. BrettArchibald

    BrettArchibald Well-Known Member

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    I see that the new version of ScribBall, with the original theme plus a couple of new themes is now available to download.
    Yay!! :)
    But I've gotta say, I have to take some of that yay back, because the way you implemented the theme-picker is... well, let's just say it's not very intuitive.
    At the moment, it just looks like this:

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    So the way it operates now it's effectively only a text-listing. There's no associated previews for each theme?!
    How on earth is a user supposed to know which one to pick??
    (I thought maybe the background picture behind the text-list was a preview of the currently selected theme name, but alas, it's not - it doesn't change at all.)

    Thank goodness I had visited this thread beforehand, so I knew which one to go for, but for anyone else, all they can do is pick one at random and hit OK, not knowing at all what they're going to get. Then they have to load up a new game and only then do they get to see what their chosen theme looks like.
    So now what happens if they decide they want to choose a different theme?
    Well it gets even worse here, because (as far as I can tell, please correct me if I'm wrong) there's no way to get back to the main menu screen once a game has started... All you can do is press your iPhone's physical "home" button to quit the game totally.
    Then you have to re-launch the game, go back to the themes menu, pick another one at random not knowing what you're gonna get, then go back and re-start your game over to see the new theme.
    And if you don't like this second choice, well then, you've got to repeat the whole process — press the home button, etc.

    And what if once you've gone through all four themes now, and you've seen what they all look like, but because they're all *quite* similar, you can't remember which one you liked best... So now you have go through all four a second time probably, paying very very close attention and doing your best to store the images you see in your mind before you settle on your final choice.

    Basically, what I'm asking is... why on earth did you not include a mini associated preview with each choice?
    It would make things MUCH easier and more intuitive for the user... They could just see at a glance which one they liked best, and pick it right there and then... No experimentation needed.

    Something like this, maybe...?

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Misguided

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    The pencil them is my favorite, FWIW.
     

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