Liberals VS Conservatives?

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  1. freedog

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    Health care is mandatory. Most Americans didn't want that. Obama is scared to push most of his agenda right now because he knows what happened during the Clinton era to congress(1994) and Al Gore's presidential bid because of too many experimental illogical laws being passed, too much government control. However, most believe he is laying low with his true agenda until after the 2010 house and senate elections, knowing that most democrats in congress fear losing their seats because of anything they pass right before the election.
     
  2. Vester

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    Yeah, what is this "secret agenda"?
    Also it's kinda sad to say but watching those videos of the tea baggers I couldn't help but notice they are almost exclusively white, older, and very misinformed
     
  3. freedog

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    Being a liberal, Hodapp is going to fish for and choose the most demeaning goofy video he can find of a tea party rally, the same way as the liberal media filtered through the crowd to find a couple of goofy looking hillbillies to throw on camera.
     
  4. Lombardo

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    #144 Lombardo, May 17, 2010
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    please, for the love of god, watch the video on the bottom of the last page.

    Oh and also, affordable healtcare!? Tax cut for 95% of Americans!? This president's on the road to becoming Hitler!
     
  5. Vester

    Vester Well-Known Member

    Didn't answer the question about the "secret agenda"
    I am aware the videos were of the weirdest tea baggers but you have to admit they are mostly old and white
     
  6. freedog

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    Lombardo, you really find Kieth Obermann as a credible source of imformation, this is the same guy who had to be REMOVED from covering politics during the election by his own liberal channel because of too much BS liberal bias.
     
  7. freedog

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    the ones they showed in that liberal video were old and white, but really the tea party has mostly regular looking working people of all ages and races who just don't like the government passing excessive laws and taxing the hell out of them.
     
  8. DaveMc99

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    Palin is goofy enough
     
  9. Lombardo

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    #149 Lombardo, May 17, 2010
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    Freedog, do you really find Glenn Beck as a reliable source? That's the same guy who lost advertisers because he was too extreme and "fear mongering". And besides, watch the video, Olbermanns not even doing anything except commenting on how funny Glenn Beck is.

    http://us.mobile.reuters.com/mobile/m/AnyArticle/p.rdt?URL=http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE57C07920090813
     
  10. Lombardo

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    No... They're mostly racist old white people who were scared to death by fox news.
     
  11. DaveMc99

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    http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2010-05-10-taxes_N.htm
     
  12. freedog

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    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows 63% now believe the health care reform legislation signed into law is likely to increase the federal deficit. That’s up four points from last week and up three points from when the law was passed in March.

    Most voters believe the new national health care plan will raise the deficit, which is one reason why 58% support its repeal.

    Even if the president and Congress raise taxes to reduce the federal deficit, 58% of voters think they are more likely to spend the money on new government programs.
     
  13. freedog

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    did I even mention Glenn Beck? You mentioned Obermann and posted a vid of him, I never mentioned or posted anything about Beck.
     
  14. Lombardo

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    #154 Lombardo, May 17, 2010
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    First, taxes have been lowered. Second, the deficit is because of Bush's (or should I say Cheney's) "war of terror" (excuse me, war on terror).

    So you neglected to watch the video, huh?
     
  15. freedog

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    Taxes are gonna go up. The democrats know better not to raise them right away, because that will make them and their plan look worst. So they set it up so that taxes are increased in years to come.
     
  16. DaveMc99

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    #156 DaveMc99, May 17, 2010
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    Conservatives taking away your freedoms. Part 2 Have papers to prove you are "legal" or get locked up.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html

    Anyone know why conservatives don't join http://www.aclu.org/?
     
  17. Lombardo

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    Part 3: Gay marriage.
    Part 4: The right to abortion.
     
  18. freedog

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    Is it not a crime to be illegally in the United States? I know, maybe you want it so anyone can come here without any kind of immigration check in tact so the population of the U.S. becomes 4/5 of the entire world.

    There are quite a few people who are dying to move away from their socialist/communist style control-freak governments to live here. Is there room for all of them?

    How about the ones who go about it legally get to stay? Oh wait thats the way it is now.
     
  19. Lombardo

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    Ok let me ask you a question. If you're family had no money, no housing, and you were constantly on the edge of death, would you not seek immediate opportunity in America, or would you wait 6 months to a year to get a greencard IF you were lucky enough to pass the test with absolutely no education?

    Point number two: Your ancestors were illegal immigrants.
    Point number three: By 2050 whites will be a minority in America (ha, good luck republican party)
     
  20. The Bat Outta Hell

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    You guys are completely selfish for starting without waiting for yourofl10.
     

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