Liberals VS Conservatives?

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  1. kcur

    kcur Well-Known Member

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    There are so many liberal and conservative parties in the world that you can't label all of them, if you're talking about the liberal party in the US it would be best just to say "democrat". Vice versa for conservatives as well.
     
  2. freedog

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    yeah thats for sure, the terms vary in each country as to what they stand for. But in America, its best to say liberal or conservative because there are many southern democrats who are conservative, and in the north there are some republicans who are liberal.
     
  3. Lombardo

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    #263 Lombardo, May 18, 2010
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    "A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?"
    --Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966

    "All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."
    --Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980. (In reality, the average nuclear reactor generates 30 tons of radioactive waste per year.)

    "Poor dear, there's nothing between his ears."
    --British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher Commenting on Ronald Reagan

    "What planet is he living on?"
    --President Mitterand of France poses this question about Reagan to Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau.

    "President Reagan doesn't always check the facts before he makes statements, and the press accepts this as kind of amusing."
    --former president Jimmy Carter, March 6, 1984

    "The road to tyranny, we must never forget, begins with the destruction of the truth."
    --President Bill Clinton
     
  4. freedog

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    Gotta love the last 2 quotes you posted, you must not know too much about history. Jimmy Carter was one of the worst presidents the country ever had, which is why Reagan beat him in a landslide in his bid for reelection, and Bill Clinton was one of the biggest liars the country ever had. You must not be old enough to know that.
     
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  7. The Game Reaper

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    Oscar doesn't approve of your logic.
     
  8. freedog

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    Here's some logic..

    1980 Election Results-
    Reagan 90.9%
    Carter 9.1%

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  9. DaveMc99

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  10. freedog

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    Obama didn't even win close to as many states as Reagan Dave. Even the first Bush won more states than Obama.
     
  11. DaveMc99

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    Something to think about for 2012.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/11887/ronald-reagan-from-peoples-perspective-gallup-poll-review.aspx

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/127481/Obama-Approval-Continues-Show-Party-Age-Race-Gaps.aspx
    http://www.electionprojection.com/2010elections/house10.php 23 Seats
     
  12. Gravity Jim

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    "Liberal" vs. "Conservative" is a false dichotomy, a construct created to help manufacture consent.

    Educated people, especially those who have studied political science, know that this is a meaningless comparison. And the issues that are discussed in the media that supposedly define these two camps are among the least important political issues... they are "hot button" that are used to rally voters, but have little impact on the working of the government.

    Seriously.
     
  13. The Game Reaper

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  14. alexsmokin27

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    Liberals are very arrogant, Conservatives are very foolish- Alexsmokin27
     
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  16. Lombardo

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    #277 Lombardo, May 18, 2010
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    Carter wasn't good with economics but was great with international affairs. He won the Nobel peace price in 2002 for protecting international individual rights for years. The reason Carter lost was because he was simply too nice. He was not a good orator and was not good at attacking the other party. Bill Clinton lied about cheating on his wife. Who cares. I'd cheat on Hillary too. The real question is, how was the economy in his era? The answer is great. Then came Bush.

    As for the things I bolded, you need to stop attacking the individual whom you are argueing with. You did it to shiz too and frankly it makes you lose a lot of credibility and respect.


    Oh, also, Im disappointed that you never responded to this:
    All you said was something about Crist. You never response to the fact that Obama has saved millions and created thousands of jobs with his stimulus.
     
  17. freedog

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    lol whatever man, shiz is the person who was on the attack with second grade insults to try and make up for his lack of intelligence, and lack of facts and is just angry against anyone who isn't a liberal. Basically you are in the same boat as him, a liberal so you'll side with him. But if you think your psychology is fooling anyone with a brain then go right ahead.

    If you don't mind me asking... how old are you and do you even live in the U.S.? "Carter wasn't good with economics" Gee thats an understatement.
     
  18. Lombardo

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    #279 Lombardo, May 18, 2010
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    I have no idea what you mean by me using psychology, but sure. And yes, I live in the U.S and am about to be 17.
     
  19. freedog

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    pfff about to be 17? yeah you've been around for a while. so you weren't even alive during the Carter, Reagan years...and you were 7 when Bill Clinton left office. I'd say you got the life experience.
     

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