Liberals VS Conservatives?

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  1. freedog

    freedog Well-Known Member

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    as far as the guns or as a whole?
     
  2. kcur

    kcur Well-Known Member

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    Where are you getting all your facts? Not an accusation, just want to know. :)
     
  3. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly your stupidity knows NO BOUNDS. I ****ing agreed with you on the guns. I couldn't give two shits about guns since I don't need them.

    Chrit dude, you have got to be one of the dumbest people I have ever met. You continually rave about how liberals are taking right away, yet one asked to name ONE example you move to a new topic. Then you make up a detrimental philosophy and then say that libs use it? Desperate at best dude.

    Honestly Dave and Lombardo have kicked your ass enough. All those wild accusations can't hide the truth; you don't know shit and are just another one of those hillbillies that are documented oh so well.

    Were not against conservative ideals, but rather ignorant shits like you.
     
  4. freedog

    freedog Well-Known Member

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    Its so funny little shiz, because you haven't said any facts or anything logical to do with the argument, other then second grade insults, mainly because you're a little boy who doesn't like guns. Not that you know anything about them or really anything else about politics, but probably because mommy and Nancy Pelosi said so.
     
  5. freedog

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    ever heard of anger management chihuahua? Its easy to talk tough on the internet but i'll give you an award anyway. The dummy of the debate award. Sorry I offended yours and mommy's ideals.
     
  6. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    1. How is Obama facist
    2. How are libs taking rights away
    3. How are conservaties logical at all. Name on logical bull passed by them and why it was logical. I want details.
    4. What IS obamas secret agenda?
    5. Why can't you use a period correctly in your posts?
    6. How will health care create a bigger deficet than military spending?
    7. Why did the deficet rocket up when there was a conservative as a president and when they had majority seats?
    8. Why is socialism in a capitalist economy sooo bad?
    9. Why can't a conservative, Sarah Palin, name a newspaper?
    10. Why does it matter if Obama sucks at baseball?
    11. Why do you always skirt the topics you know absolutely nothing about? (that's everything except guns)
    12. Why are conservatives such perfect beings? They are politicians afterall.
    13. What is the logic behind the conservative oppoistion to embryonic stem cell research and abortion?

    I have more but I need my computer to look through the thread. This iPod ain't working out so great.
     
  7. cubytes

    cubytes Well-Known Member

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    awww idk what obamas secret agenda is :( maybe that's because I don't watch fox news?
     
  8. Vester

    Vester Well-Known Member

    In response to 10 shiz I want to say his skill at basketball makes up for that easy
     
  9. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    lol freedog is freaking out right now. He keeps repeating the same things over and over. I think Freedog has absolutely lost it.

    Honestly no point in taking to him anymore.
     
  10. freedog

    freedog Well-Known Member

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    I already answered most of those questions especially the first one. Its clear that your a lib who wants to blame republicans for everything. Liberals had control of congress since 2006. They screwed up the economy more than Bush by setting it up so poor people could take out loans that they couldn't pay back, making it mandatory for banks to give the loans...and thats just part of it. Bush's failure to regulate the economy by putting too much trust in the free market was a big part of the problem too. This is why I have said in previous posts that I am mostly liberal when it comes to the economy. Because I have little faith in the free market anymore because of greed and corruption. However, Obama has done nothing to create new jobs or correct any of the problems even if you do say it was "all Bush"... what is Obama doing to fix it? Nothing. He doesn't have a clue on what to do.
     
  11. kcur

    kcur Well-Known Member

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    Again, could you please tell me your sources?
     
  12. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you. You actually answered 2/13th of the post and said something negative about conservatives. But honestly that was the most vague paragraph ever. The subprime mortgages didn't just pop up because of something the liberals did. Things like that are gradual. But if it WAS something the liberal controlled congress did, then what was it?
     
  13. Vester

    Vester Well-Known Member

    #233 Vester, May 18, 2010
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    Ok bush sent us into 2 wars, we lose billions very quickly on them. I think that may be a very large contributing factor to our economic troubles. Also Obama has created jobs, unemployment is dropping.
     
  14. freedog

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    How about checking out the unemployment rate? How about every time you turn on the news no matter what channel it is they are saying he is not doing enough to create jobs.

    Here's where Obama is leading America..

    President Obama declared: "I didn't come here to pass our problems on to the next president or the next generation--I'm here to solve them." Yet rather than "solve" the runaway spending that is projected to cause historic deficits, the President's budget doubles down on it with trillions of dollars in new spending and taxes, culminating in a doubling of the national debt. Heritage Foundation economic policy expert Brian Riedl lays out how a $3 trillion tax hike and an additional $74,000 debt burden on every U.S. household will affect the country--and why Congress should reject President Obama's budget proposal.

    When he released his new budget proposal on February 1, President Barack Obama asserted that the government "simply cannot continue to spend as if deficits don't have consequences; as if waste doesn't matter; as if the hard-earned tax dollars of the American people can be treated like Monopoly money; as if we can ignore this challenge for another generation."[1]

    Yet the President's new budget does exactly that-- raising taxes by $3 trillion and federal spending by $1.6 trillion over the next ten years. If enacted, this budget would increase the 2010 deficit to more than $1.5 trillion, and leave a deficit of more than $1 trillion even after an assumed return to peace and prosperity. Overall, the President's budget would double the national debt over the next decade.[2]



    President Obama's Budget

    Would permanently expand the federal government by 3 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) over 2007 pre-recession levels;
    Would raise taxes onall Americans by nearly $3 trillion over the next decade;
    Would raise taxes for 3.2 million small businesses and upper-income taxpayers by an average of $300,000 over the next decade;
    Would borrow 42 cents for each dollar spent in 2010;
    Would run a $1.6 trillion deficit in 2010--$143 billion higher than the recession-driven 2009 deficit;
    Would leave permanent deficits that top $1 trillion as late as 2020;
    Would dump an additional $74,000 per household of debt into the laps of our children and grandchildren; and
    Would double the publicly held national debt to over $18 trillion.
    Source: Heritage Foundation calculations based on U.S. Office of Management and Budget, Budget of the United States Government, Fiscal Year 2011 (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 2010), pp. 146-179, Tables S-1 through S-14. Also includes the cost of House-passed cap-and-trade bill, which President Obama endorsed yet excluded from his budget tables.
     
  15. freedog

    freedog Well-Known Member

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    I don't like Bush, and I don't like the Iraq war.

    Obama is not creating jobs man.
     
  16. Vester

    Vester Well-Known Member

    Obama has put in place job creating measures and it takes a little time for them to kick in. It took 20 years to put us in our current economic position. We will be lucky if we can get out in 2-5 years.
     
  17. freedog

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  19. freedog

    freedog Well-Known Member

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    But look how low it was during the Bush years. Even Bush had it lower and he was terrible at the economy. It was at its highest with Obama in. Even though it went down by .2 or .3 its still ridiculously high during the past 2 years, during Obama's term. 10% to 9.7% common, hardly anything, but temporary construction jobs Obama created, workers that will be out of work again in 4 months.
     
  20. Vester

    Vester Well-Known Member

    Well the stock market didn't take a huge dive during bush's terms in office. As for those workers being out of work in a couple months it's really too early to call that
     

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