Legalization of Marijuana?

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Should Marijuana Be Legalized?

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  2. No

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  1. Giggity

    Giggity Well-Known Member

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    About two hours ago I smoked a B and drove around with 5 of my friends in my car right after. It seemed like a normal drive and we were just going around a neighbor. Im a speeder I must admit. So as usual I was going about 10 over the speed limit and I was comming up to an intersection and I didn't see any stop signs for me, so I kept going but I was smart enough to check both ways because about 3 car lengths before I got to the intersection, I saw a car going about 18 over from the left heading towards the intersection. I slammed on my breaks and the other person kept going. Luckily I had seen it soon as I could and I slammed to a stop about 2 feet away from the car.

    Weed doesn't impair my driving. I'm actually alot more focused when I drive. I notice things I wouldn't normally notice had I not smoked. I smoke weed almost everyday over the summer and smoke a few times a week during school. I am a B- to A student. I have never smoked alone and I would not at all consider myself addicted.

    How does weed affect you guys?
     
  2. blk04a4

    blk04a4 Well-Known Member

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    all i had to read hahah that is awesome! smoked a B im going to start saying that now. i feel the exact same way also, when i used to street race *tisk* *tisk* i know! i raced in the mountains allll the time and if anything it made me realize more of the littler things around me like you were saying
     
  3. HardcoreEricXXX

    HardcoreEricXXX Well-Known Member

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    #43 HardcoreEricXXX, Jul 22, 2009
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    I'm not ignorant because I have personal experiance from fighting addictions of cigarettes to crack. Hiding pot from my dad, to hiding it from the cops. Smoking with the rich, smoking with the homeless. I base my opinions on the life I've lived, and the lives I've seen of other pot smokers. To call someone ignorant for experiencing certain situations, and observing the lives of close friends and family who smoke enough marijuana to impair their lives is ignorant in itself. Sometimes you need some first hand experiance about a situation where opposing sides always skew data towards their sides or get random samples from areas that already support what they want to prove. The only statistic I gave that may be opinion is a prisoner statistic, but I claimed it as opinion and I'd still stand by. A couple questions though: why is pot still expensive in Amsterdam? Do work in a hospital that doesn't random drug test? If it does, why risk your job and reputation to burn a lil? If it doesn't, what's the name of the company that owns this hospital?
     
  4. ixBilalxi

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    See your existing personality caused ur experience. If your lazy ur gonna be lazy with weed. It depends on who you are.
     
  5. le'deuche123

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    #45 le'deuche123, Jul 22, 2009
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    I hate when I can't be around to defend my opinion. As has been mentioned what you said, has NO basis in fact, and furthermore is making some broad assumptions about a very large portion of the population. Adolescent Vandalism?? Where are you getting your info?? Are there any statistics to back this claim???
     
  6. le'deuche123

    le'deuche123 Well-Known Member

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    So far it appears those who don't want it legalized are basing their opinion on misinformation. False statistics, and subjective experiences, are not enough to form an intelligent debate people. I'm intimidated looking at some of these posts, as I don't even know where to start, when trying to correct some of the more aberrant claims. Please please bring relevence to the discussion when voicing your opinions.
     
  7. HardcoreEricXXX

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    #47 HardcoreEricXXX, Jul 22, 2009
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  8. Electric_Shaman

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    #48 Electric_Shaman, Jul 22, 2009
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    You're talking about a different continent genius, the cost of living is completely different.
    Also you (Hardcore) keep saying that 100 years+ of pot being illegal is going to force prices up and such nonsense. What about the 1900 years+++++++ that it was legal? Add onto that the fact that it has mainly been a campaign of misinformation that has fueled the constant illegitimacy of weed and you have a little melting pot ready to go off. People generally don't like being lied to, especially not by their own government (RE: Watergate). And by generally, I mean more than enough to swing a vote.

    I think most people in this thread are tackling the issue from the wrong kinda standpoints. Yes driving under the influence is bad, kids using is bad, gateway drug effect can be argued (although I personally would say it would be reduced, the main reason for the gateway effect is access to harder drugs granted due to pot's illegal nature); but none of these points actually have to do with the drug itself. These are all societal problems that arise and which can be controlled with the correct measures. Lots of these problems aren't even specific to pot.

    Pot itself is a safe drug. Safer than alcohol and tobacco at any rate, both of which are legal (although tobacco seems to be slowly on the way out, due to health risks to non smokers).
    In my eyes, thanks to new digital media and the absolute ease at which information can be accessed, Marijuana legalisation isn't too far off. It depends on if our good friend Barrack is going to live up to ALL of his campaign promises.

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    pshh don't make me laugh, this study shows next to nothing. crime is a notoriously difficult field to research, and I think prison populations would probably be the epitome of difficult populations to survey. First off about 10% from each group selected refused to participate (sample is not complete therefore not reliable). Secondly, the whole study hinges on the very flimsy assumption that a group of people who have broken the law (displaying immoral ethics), who have been locked up with pretty much nothing to do, are all going to tell you the truth (a moral act). Sounds like a really great plan
     
  9. guggug

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    I surprised no one has mentioned that during Prohibition, the US was in the middle of a depression, dust bowl, etc etc. Alcohol was something many people were already depending on to ease their pain, if you will. Plus, Marijuana hasn't been legal in the recent past. For the average person, they don't need to do Marijuana, etc etc.. Now, LEGALIZING and then ILLEGALIZING Marijuana would have a bad effect. But leaving it illegalized is a much better option down the road, because once it's legalized, its going to be very hard to illegalize it again, should we need too. But none of this matters because it's not going to happen. Obama is a slimy scumbag who hasnt lived up to any of his promises to the obamunists, and is trying to take Socialism and jam it down our throats.
     
  10. Electric_Shaman

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    You're basing this on the assumption that we're going to need to illegalize weed again down the line... but why? We haven't need to illegalize alcohol again...

    Okay first of all, Obama's been in less than a year, and he's been put right in the middle of about 6 different pressing situations, the most important being the global economic recession. For Obama, legalization isn't going to be very high on his to do list right now.
    You could argue that legalizing now would be good, as it would create tons of new jobs in the middle of the recession, and like you said it would help people relax. The only flaw I see is the market would be slow due to people having less flexible income, but I think the initial curiosity would be enough to kick start the market.
     
  11. Eli

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    You forgot to call him a DemocRAT or make reference to his middle name, HUSSEIN!!!
     
  12. worldcup1100

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    Add calling him a terrorist in there too, oh and then we can also get into a whole slew of racist comments.
     
  13. Giggity

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    Hmm..

    I highly dislike you in the most serious way.
     
  14. Crzychkn

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    I just had to reply to this.

    How is Alcohol any different than Marijuana?

    I think that the situation with both drugs is far too similar to ignore. I would bet everything I own that if you were to treat Cannabis the same way Alcohol is treated, you would have the exact same situation you have with Alcohol today.

    Meaning it wouldn't be any more or less dangerous than Alcohol.
     
  15. HardcoreEricXXX

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    What promises has Obama ever made for marijuana? His agenda for change doesn't even mention marijuana. And his history of voting on issues that pertain to marijuana suggest he doesn't want to ever see it legalized either.
    The cost of living in New York is more than in Amsterdam , and my hometown it's substantially cheaper, yet, any of those places a true dank quarter is gonna be $110-120.
    Pot is safe? THC is safe. The plant itself has fertilizers and pesticides, and smoking it is like rubbing charcoal all over your lungs.
    So if those statistics of prisons are skewed because prisoners are lying cause they don't wan to get in trouble, wouldn't that mean if they told the truth the stats would be in my favor even more?
     
  16. Crzychkn

    Crzychkn Well-Known Member

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    And who's decision do you think it should be to rub charcoal all over my lungs? I don't tell people not to eat McDonald's even though I think it's horrible. Are cigarettes any less dangerous? If pot is illegal because it's dangerous, then there should be many more things along with it.

    But then why should we let the government dictate what we can and can't do? If someone wants to smoke weed for the rest of their life and do nothing else, who are we to say no?
     
  17. le'deuche123

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    It doesn't necessarily have fertilizers or pesticides, as long as the grower grew it organically. You can use fish emultion, or worm castings for fertilizer, and lady bugs for pest control.
     
  18. le'deuche123

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    Wow, Thanks!! I got so sidetracked that I failed to mention the most relevant of all reasons why it should be legal....Because it's my choice to do so, and this is the supposed land of the free, where personal liberty is prized or all else. "Give me liberty or give me death".
     
  19. AlvinoTheChipmunk

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    Well, Im kind of on the fence, but I think legalizing it would be good. The government could charge taxes, and make more money off of it, and they wouldn't have to spend money cracking down. If people want to use it to relieve stress, that's fine with me, but for myself, I have better ways of doing that, such as watching movies, hanging out with friends, etc.
     
  20. Giggity

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    Now try those things baked. :) That is the reason why I do it. Lol
     

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