iPhone Kingdom Rush Frontiers - (by Ironhide Game Studio)

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  1. Scorpion008

    Scorpion008 Well-Known Member

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    Strongest overall is Grawl, a (slow) tank with good melee damage. Sha'tra is an allrounder with only melee damage, with very cool specials (at least one can hit air units). Nivus is damage heavy, with very cool specials as well and only weak in health. He is ranged and teleports. Ashbite is pricey and his pros are area damage and almost immune to ground attacks. He does have flaws though; he can't block ANYTHING, is slow, and dies quickly when he can be targeted.
     
  2. Atangerine

    Atangerine Active Member

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    You should keep the first game because they have stated that they will continue to update the first game.

    Also, the first update for KRF will apparantly be 3 new stages and 2 more heroes.
     
  3. IronhideGames

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    Indeed! We'll keep updating both games, don't know yet when to expect the updates but there will be news soon :)

    For the meanwhile, if you enjoy the game, vote for it :D: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?threadid=192140
     
  4. Scorpion008

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    I voted for you, but have sales on the heroes as they are released. You will have more loyal fans, and we will love you more. You guys are the company that got me over complaining about consumable in app purchases. I just couldn't give up KR over the gem store, so I decided to live with it.
     
  5. Enriana

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    Question - as a TD novice, will I enjoy this game? I'm reading mentions of difficulty, and while I don't mind being challenged, I don't want to buy this only to find three levels in that it's beyond me.
     
  6. Ravenblack

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    Nah..it's got nice progression. Nothing like some of the others where they just throw you into the thick right away. Higher difficulty challenges also unlock only after you play a level for the first time. So much replayability there too.
     
  7. xCrusader

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    not really an anti-IAP person...if i know the game is good enough to last long pretty long on my almost full device then ill buy one or two of the IAP...im just looking for the satisfaction to complete a game on just tower placements and knowing which tower to upgrade first etc etc.
     
  8. september

    september Well-Known Member

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    I don't use my gems either, being reliant on a consumable system seems pointless when you can just do better builds.
     
  9. C.Hannum

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    #329 C.Hannum, Jun 11, 2013
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    Except that powerups are part of the game design and knowing when/if to use them is as much a genuine part of the strategy of winning as knowing how to use the towers.

    Example: I beat my head against the wall trying to do one of the Iron Challenges pretty much all of my spare time yesterday. Most have been doable without any powerups after just a handful of attempts to workout tower placement and upgrades path with the enemies, not this one. Even once I'd worked out it the most optimal tower placement and upgrades (as best my brain could handle :D), was still losing the level. Tried some different powerups, still losing. It wasn't until I used 2 particular powerups combined with the optimal tower placement that I cleared the level.

    Was that the only solution? Almost certainly not, there's probably a Youtube video out there showing someone doing it on Veteran difficulty without any power ups using one hand while they juggle a running chainsaw with the other, but it worked, I did it on my own, and I'm perfectly satisfied.

    At any rate, the game was designed with the notion of the powerups being available. They won't win the level for you by themselves outside of truly asinine extremes (I blew $500 on gems and bought nothing but freeze wands and fat boys!), and it's unnecessarily making the game more difficult to avoid using them "just because" if earnest attempts to win/perfect a level without them are proving impossible.

    I finished all 15 levels on Normal (have 3 starred all but 2), finished 13 of the Heroic challenges, and am making my way through the Iron challenges. Then I'll see about Veteran. Although I did buy Nivus (archmage), actually did most of the levels with the included 3, finding Cronan to be the most useful on the later stages. I'm sitting on a few thousand gems and have a stockpile of powerups having purchased no gems nor ever played for the purpose of "farming" gems.

    EDIT It's now 3 stars all levels on normal, 14/15 Heroic completed, and 8/15 Iron completed, sitting on 5.5K gems. Oh, this game is sooo about encouraging the IAP ;)
     
  10. ChaosProdigy

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    #330 ChaosProdigy, Jun 11, 2013
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    Can someone please explain how hero leveling up works?

    Is exp for heroes based on Hero kills or it doesnt matter if it is tower or hero kill they get exp?

    This would be much appreciated! Also any tips on leveling up heroes faster? I end up doing the level 2 with a bunch of barracks/hero

    Is there a "FAST FORWARD" option in game somewhere? If my memory serves me i think the first game did have a fast forward option unlocked eventually.

    Its getting painful on some of the slower enemies... takes sooooo long for them to come and die
     
  11. IronhideGames

    IronhideGames Well-Known Member

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    There's no fast forward in Kingdom Rush.

    The maximum level is 10. Heroes gain experience by damaging enemies or using special abilities. Each time they level up they earn 3 hero points to spend on improving abilities.

    The higher the hero level, the harder it will be for them to earn experience at earlier stages.

    If you want to level up a lvl 5 hero, don't go to stage 2 because he won't earn to much xp :D
     
  12. explosive

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    #332 explosive, Jun 11, 2013
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    Just finished getting 75/75 stars, if people are sticking with default heroes I recommend Cronan, found him very useful in a choke points for holding enemies up.

    And thanks pinny for that tip on dunes, worked as you said. :)
     
  13. Cadenza

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    #333 Cadenza, Jun 11, 2013
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    I like this game, it's an improvement over the first one but not by a lot as most things are the same. However I don't feel it's worth the cost.
    First of all the mechanics are exactly the same as Kingdom Rush 1, no difference whatsoever, from the graphics to the towers (still same 4 towers) to all the items (same items, same gem costs), the music, the menus, everything. In fact you won't really know you're playing 2 instead of 1 on most screens... The only differences are:
    - Different enemy units, but basically just same enemies as first game but different skins
    - Different hero units. BUT, you must buy all except 3, which I feel is outrageous. $7.99 for the dragon hero? Are you f*cking kidding me? $7.99 is how much a small game on Xbox Marketplace costs, the FULL game, not a single unit in some iOS game, and not an original iOS game either, as it's a sequel. It will cost about $23 to unlock all heroes
    - Towers upgrade different at level 4 only - the first 3 levels are still the same as the first game
    - Oh there is another IAP too - buy gems. So you've got $23 worth of heroes to buy AND possibility of buying gems too
    It's a good game, but the developer is just WAY too greedy. Re-skin Kingdom Rush 1 is not enough, they have to put more IAPs into it as well. I mean they didn't even bother changing the menus. I would have expected a game of this caliber (one of the best tower defense games) to have some major changes in the sequel... Highly disappointed of the devs of the blockbuster Kingdom Rush 1. Overall it feels like an update to Kingdom Rush 1, not a separate game.

    Avoid this game until one of the two things below happens:
    - Price drop from $2.99 to either $0.99 or free
    - Significantly lower price of IAP heroes to something like $0.99 per hero
     
  14. y2kmp3

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    Just curious.

    When you first start the game, you are automatically selected with a hero. Is there anyway to deselect the hero so you DON'T have a hero selected for the entire game at all?
     
  15. Scorpion008

    Scorpion008 Well-Known Member

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    Go to the hero room on the main map, click the icon for another hero, and click the green select under the larger picture of their face that appears.
     
  16. y2kmp3

    y2kmp3 Well-Known Member

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    What? Does not work. I am starting the game from scratch. When I select any of the other hero, there is no green check to uncheck in the picture.

    Can you try it (I know later once you have other heroes activated, you can. I am specifically asking about the beginning of a new game)?

     
  17. Scorpion008

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    Sorry, I misunderstood you. I suppose if there is no deselect that is weird. If you don't want a hero, reset Alric's abilities and place him at the end of the level for the whole game. That's the best I can think of.
     
  18. Atangerine

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    Pretty terrible review. Some bullets:

    - Did you even play the game? The enemies are vastly different from the originals.
    - You are not entitled to buy the gems or heroes at all (although $8 is pretty ridiculous). Also, they have stated that there will be hero sales.
    - The mechancs are the same because it was so succesful in the first game. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
    - The menus and the music are different. If you couldn't tell you should get your hearing and eyesight checked.
    - You forgot to mention many of the improvements, like the hero skill tree.
     
  19. C.Hannum

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    I know, $3 for dozens of hours of joy, who do these a-holes think they are? :rolleyes:

    Well, first, pretty much EVERY TD game has the same towers just "re-skinned". Second, they have completely new specialist towers, or did you just rage quit before you ever got that far?

    Funny, went back and played some of the first last night, first time I've touched it in months; was surprised how different it played and looked. The differences are often subtle, but they are legion.

    And this is different than the first game how? First game gave you 3 heroes and expected you to buy any others you wanted. Three are legends at $5 a pop. I swear people have brain damage - pretty much every criticism people are making about this game either equally applies to all TD games or it equally applies to the original.

    I guess you didn't quit, you just raise the question of just how many TD games you have played. Tower types are pretty standard, and this game doesn't deviate from the basic standards. However, the imagination and specialization showed by those level 4 towers you so blithely dismiss is rather spectacular in a cookie cutter genre like this.

    Just dinged 75/75 on normal, sitting on 7.3K gems. No one who cares enough to actually be remotely competent at this game is going to be buying gems. They hand them out by the hundreds.


    Want to know who's greedy? Hint: Go look in the mirror.
    I played this game from last Wednesday night until today to get to 75/75 stars and I still have the veteran campaign to win. Paid $3 for the base game, $3 for Nivus (and found out that Cronan was better for most levels, such greed to give us one of the most solid heroes included ;)). $6 paid a week of entertainment - there is NOTHING greedy in that equation on the part of Ironhide.
     
  20. Cadenza

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    #340 Cadenza, Jun 12, 2013
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    Terrible review?

    - If I didn't play the game what am I reviewing it for? Enemies, vastly different? Please tell me how "vastly different" they are. Like I said, they're just re-skins. In the first game you have little men holding daggers with low HP and high damage. In the 1st game you have little men holding knives instead with low HP and high damage. In the 1st game you have a huge gladiator-like warrior that kills your foot soldiers in one hit. In this game you have a huge executioner-like enemy that kills your soldiers in one hit. In the first game you have flying gargoyles. In this game you have giant flying wasps. Anyone see the pattern here? :rolleyes:
    - Yes I'm not entitled to even play the game I spent money on eh? So if a game made 2/3 of its content IAP locked (which is what this game is, since only 3 heroes are available), nothing's wrong with that? I fail to see your rebuttal here? $7.99 for ONE character unlock of an iOS game is not a weak point to you?
    - By your logic, if the first game is 100% perfect, it's perfectly fine to re-release the first game without any changes, and simply give it a different name? Yup let's repackage our game, rename it, maybe give it a few shiny posters, then resell it, cause "if it's perfect don't fix it". So tell me why is it that almost every single sequel in the video game industry, the good ones that is, introduced something completely different that gave that "oh I definitely think the devs worked hard on this sequel and didn't simply recycle the code and reskin" factor?
    - How the hell is the menu different? You should be the one to check your eyesight. Want some screenshots? Here you go:
    KR1: http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/1113316/kingdom_rush_3.PNG
    KR2: http://www.pubarticles.com/member/user_img/201306/08/beat%20kingdom%20rush%20frontiers%20level%203-85712.gif

    KR1: http://dbug.kicks-ass.net/RebootReviews/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Photo-Sep-01-9-07-25-AM.png
    KR2: http://images.wikia.com/kingdomrushtd/images/7/77/Kingdom_rush_frontiers_map.PNG

    KR1 & KR2: http://i1.2pcdn.com/node14/image/article/201306/05/20130605233431a0dhsq9rsqs2a33u.jpg

    Feel free to tell me any "differences" you see in those menus :rolleyes:

    Did I say the game wasn't an improvement? Re-read my first statement in my earlier post. I said it wasn't worth the high cost as it feels like an update to KR1. Ironically you mentioned "improvements" but could only list one improvement. Yes I agree the hero skill tree is an improvement. Is it an improvement that really makes KR2 worth getting at this price? No. You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine, don't go calling other people's opinions "terrible" just because you're a fanboy.
     

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