iPad 4th generation discussion thread

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Lounge' started by Infernado, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. Well, the oct/nov launching of ipad is great for xmas, so I hope they keep it that way. I hope they dont do an ipad 4s, but who knows, always thought this was going to be an ipad 3s not ipad 4.

    Anyway whatever is better in the long run is better for new ipad owners like myself and others. The more quality apps there is the better from the ipad and ipad mini.
     
  2. JBRUU

    JBRUU Well-Known Member

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    I know this might be a little off topic but I'd like a little input here, via PM or just on the thread. Who thinks $410 for a wifi 32gb iPad is to little to settle for and who thinks I should just take the deal?
     
  3. For the new ipad right? Well I assume you paid $599 plus tax so totally about 650. I would say try to get $450.

    Are you planning on getting a 64 gb ipad?
     
  4. JBRUU

    JBRUU Well-Known Member

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    Bah. Already agreed to $400. Whatever, $50 isn't really that much.

    No a 32. I've never really found that to be to small, and I have over half my iPad free currently.

    If I preorder when is the estimated delivery date for the iPad 4?
     
  5. Congrats, let us know how the two versions differ. I douby if I would upgrade if it meant losing $200 but would consider it if there was a night and day difference. I really wonder which version will have a better screen.
     
  6. Rip73

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    #46 Rip73, Oct 26, 2012
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    Nov 2nd, same day it hits the shops.
    Some tend to be delivered a day early or so but Friday would be the expected delivery date.
    If you pre order, they'll email when it ships with a tracking number so you can see if you'll get it early or not.
    I expect they'll start shipping out from Tuesday anyway so wherever you are on the list will determine the day it arrives.
     
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    #47 Rip73, Oct 26, 2012
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    There is no difference in the screen between iPad 3 and iPad 4, its the exact same retina screen.
    It is LG that's primarily making them as opposed to Samsung and it has the same in plane switching tech.
    There might be a small difference in yield down to the different manufacturers but LG was already making the screen, just in smaller numbers to Samsung.
    It's the chip that's the big difference.
     
  8. The screens are totally different. Apple does not want Samsung screens period, this was another big secretive issue. According to rumour, the new screen will be of a different tech, may have one light bar instead of 2 to save battery life, and have in panel sensors instead of the current dual layer format.

    That seems like a huge change. So I think there will be a big difference. I won't be surprised one bit if some press articles say that the new ipads screen looks better than the ipad.

    I know this is rumour and all right now, but alot of these rumours seem true. Personally I really like the samsung display panels. I wonder if the new panels will be better or not. If not, here comes screengate as it will be called.
     
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    #49 Rip73, Oct 26, 2012
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    What you're talking about there is the rumours for the next gen retina ipad screen.

    Absolutely no details of a different screen were released and on stage at its launch Phil said it has the same great retina screen as launched in the iPad 3.

    There's no secret that Apple wants to replace Samsung, there never has been. Worldwide patent trademark lawsuits give that one away anyway.

    And LG has always been making retina iPad screens, just less than Samsung because they had initial yield rate problems that Samsung didn't. Now that Samsung is on the way out, LG is the primary contractor.
    They are making the same screen as things stand right now.

    The next gen one is irrelevant at this stage as its a year away but yes, it will have in panel sensors to reduce thickness, a new bonding method and possibly one light bar. But that's iPad 5, not this one.
     
  10. Yeah maybe you are right. Will be a little surprised if it is the same tech cause I thought they wanted longer battery life, but we won't know til 11/2.

    Just will be interesting to see if the press says the new ipads screen looks better than the ipad. Screengate could happen.

    But too early to say now, the new screen will be something I will look at other than the cpu/gpu.
     
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    #51 Rip73, Oct 26, 2012
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    Trust me when I say this, there is no visible difference between the two.
    There is a distinct difference in load speeds of apps but the screen colouring, sharpness and lighting is exactly the same.

    Efforts have been made to control heating but the chip consumes a lot less power which helps the battery a lot. The 32nm manufacturing tech alone helps massively in power consumption.
     
  12. BrEaKBEaT

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    Are you not slightly annoyed that 6 months from release you already feel the need to upgrade an expensive device just to get stable framerates?? Such loyalty, I really have to rate the Jedi tricks Apple pull off on their customers.

    In terms of hardware, the Vita has two analogues, d-pad and buttons, not to mention a more comfortable form factor than the iPad... certainly for gaming use with onscreen d-pads etc. Raw power, on the whole, means diddly squat. (don't make me bring out my panasonic 3DO to back that up!) ...it's all about the support. While we're gradually seeing more 'proper, graphically impressive' games... those aren't the kind that have caused the gaming boom on IOS. And I'm sure games producers are very conscious that they need to create games which cover the broad and various IOS hardware iterations.

    So I don't think you'll be seeing too many big releases that take advantage of that A6X anytime soon. Hell, I'm still waiting for the 16x graphics Apple promised with my iPad 2!
     
  13. psj3809

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    After getting an ipad 3 for my birthday in August i'm a bit annoyed Apple are now going to release an ipad 4 so early

    Then again thats how technology works. I remember (get ready for old mans speech !) in the 90's, second i bought a 120 mhz PC a 166 mhz one came out, then when i later got one of those a 300 mhz came out a few weeks later and so on.

    But yeah no way would i now sell my ipad 3 to get a 4 just a few months later (or even 6 months). Thats one main reason Apple keep releasing products so often as people lap them up instantly. I love Apple but i'm not foolish enough to keep getting the latest device every '3 weeks' when they keep releasing a new one.
     
  14. mr.Ugly

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    id say wait for the ipad 7 it will be alot better than the ipad 5 and even the ipad 6 for sure!!!!!

    o_O


    if anyone wants to buy an ipad buy the 4th gen .. as all S refreshs they live the longest since they have the more solid base.

    in the end the ipad 3 had the same issues the ipad1 had.. it was underpowered for heavy usage.. but fine for 90% of the users out there.

    everyone who really cares about gaming performance, benchmarks and what not.. knew the ipad3 even withthe faster hardware would not be really ready to push all the retina pixels in high demaning 3d games..

    now the ipad 4 has around the specs to offer an performance similar to the ipad2 considering the screen when it comes to gaming..

    as a developer i need all devices anyway.. but as a customer i would stick to every iteration.. ipad 2, 4, 6.. iphone 3gs, 4s and next year the 5s because the 2 years gap is spend more comfortable speed wise with the iterations than the originals

    my 2 cents
     
  15. BrEaKBEaT

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    Lol Glad it's not just me with the old man speeches!
     
  16. JBRUU

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    #56 JBRUU, Oct 26, 2012
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    I don't need to justify a thing to you about my purchasing habits. But for your information I am quite annoyed Apple upgraded the iPad so soon, but also I have never liked not being able to push full retina. This iPad will probably be able to do that, and moreover the thing is so ridiculously powerful I have a very hard time seeing the hardware not being able to push games at 60 fps or a very stable framerate for the next 1.5-2 years. With the sale of my old iPad the upgrade price is fairly negligible.

    The iPad 2 has already been pushed to the limit. NOVA 3 did that. As for the vita, that was just a point of reference for how powerful the iPad 4 is. Literally on par with a console now, I think, though I'll have to see that benchmarks. And as for controls, well damn I can't stand analogue sticks for shooters. PC >touch>analogue.

    MC4, Ravensword 2, Forgotten Memories, RR3, GTA Vice City will all run like butter on the thing.
     
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    I found it interesting that my husband, who loves his iPad 3rd gen device, announced at breakfast this morning that he's decided to move back to the PC for "serious" gaming, and keep his iPad around for casual gaming. So thanks to Apple's decision with releasing the iPad 4th gen so soon after the 3rd gen, our PC is getting an overhaul this fall, not our iPad.
     
  18. Eli

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    Is speed of the upgrade cycle is what's causing you to lose interest in the iPad, you're going to be in for a rude awakening in the land of PC hardware. ;)
     
  19. JBRUU

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    If he prefers PC gaming, more power to him. For a lot of $$$ there is the best selection of titles available.


    New hardware is constantly being released but if you had a top notch rig a year ago that ran BF3 at 60 fps it's going to be still top notch this year and probably next.
     
  20. dclose

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    No, I am not. We've been PC owners forever. My current machine is 5 years old and has been through two upgrades. The difference is I'm not throwing away the entire PC once every six months (or even once a year!). I'm upgrading components for a fraction of the original cost. That's not possible with an iPad. When an iPad needs "upgrading" because games are running too slowly, or not at all, I'm buying an entirely new device.

    And quite frankly, it has cost me far, far less to stay "current" in the PC world (ie. able to run the latest games without major problems) than it does to swap out a 64G iPad every six months.

    For me it's a simple matter of economics. The math for Apple doesn't add up, and the math for PC works better for my particular situation. I have never been a fangirl of anything, and I have been an Apple owner from a long time back (Apple II!). I see no difference in how Apple treated people then versus how they're treating them now. I knew that before I purchased an iPad, so I am not surprised by their behavior, just disappointed, and after looking at the economics, it's meant a clear split in how my family wishes to continue gaming in the future. My iPad 3rd gen device makes a fine book reader, casual game platform and Internet appliance and it will remain so for a little while longer, but not as long as I was hoping if the performance of my 1 year old iPod Touch is any indication.
     

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