iPad How to pass information onto users?

Discussion in 'iPhone and iPad Games' started by ChrisJefferson, Feb 3, 2009.

  1. ChrisJefferson

    ChrisJefferson Well-Known Member

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    I'm preparing a big update for my game, Combination [ http://www.itunes.com/app/Combination ] (end of advertising!), and have a few problems.

    This update is going to make some big changes to existing users, renaming, rearranging, removing and adding levels. I'd like to explain that, and aren't sure of the best way to do that. Adding 'release notes' to the menu seems a bit blunt, but I bet most people wouldn't read the app notes in the iTunes store. What's the best way of talking to users?

    Also, a couple of other questions:

    1) I'd really like to know which levels people are solving and which they are having trouble with it. If there was an option which would anonymously transmit which levels you have completed back to a server, would you click it?

    2) Would you feel ripped off if some levels were removed, because they are not fun / too hard, even if the total number of levels has more than doubled?

    Thanks for reading this long ramble,

    Chris
     
  2. Sparks

    Sparks Well-Known Member

    I would send the data to a server, if it helps.

    Ask us what levels WE like, with a poll in the app or on a website or something.
     
  3. HJJ

    HJJ Well-Known Member

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    I would actually not like any sort of poll or "interaction" inside of the game. I would contribute to an external poll or survey, but I'm afraid I'm probably a little more proactive than average, meaning that I think most people wouldn't bother. It's up to you, but I dislike ads in games, and I feel a "poll" might give the experience a similar feeling. Also, I'm usually not connected to the Internet when I'm playing.

    Perhaps a partial solution would be a "What's New" section that one can click on to read about all the updates. A few of my games have utilized this feature, and I think it's generally a good idea. It's nothing more than a word next to "settings" or "new game" but it can contain lots of useful info.

    You'll probably want to be as specific as possible in the update install notes. At least that way, people who whine about being "surprised" will have little ground to stand on. I always read the notes to see what is being updated.

    On a related note, I downloaded your game over the weekend, and I really like it. I can't comment much because I haven't played too many rounds. I really just played a couple games to get my feet wet.
     
  4. HouseTreeRobot

    HouseTreeRobot Well-Known Member

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    Is this your opinion, or have some users told you that these particular levels are terrible?
    If you have a few levels that are "too hard" I wouldn't think that's too much of a problem. If anything it might keep people playing longer, trying to beat a couple of elusive levels that are a bit hard...

    If you feel the quality of the levels are a LOT worse than your others (and bring down the overall quality of the game) then remove them, otherwise I'd keep them if they're not causing any harm.


    Personally as a player I wouldn't feel ripped off if a few bad levels were gone and replaced with many more better levels.
     
  5. Little White Bear Studios

    Little White Bear Studios Well-Known Member

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    I added a What's New page that pops up on the first run of any update. Nobody has complained yet.
     
  6. ChrisJefferson

    ChrisJefferson Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all the suggestions, I think I'll go with a screen that pops up on update, and can then be accessed from the title screen.

    There were a few levels which were far too hard for the place, so I think I'll rearrange. Hopefully by just asking, I can get users to tell me if there are any levels they are having particular trouble with.
     
  7. Donburns99

    Donburns99 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I would click the button.

    Yes, I would feel ripped off.

    Put the levels in a carder category or something, but don't remove them entirely. I'd rather have a handful of good challenging levels than an abundance of levels I can blow right though.
     
  8. ChrisJefferson

    ChrisJefferson Well-Known Member

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    Thanks!

    Don't worry about a lack of challenging levels. As far as I'm aware, no-one has managed to complete more than one of the SuperHard levels. In fact, I think I probably made those far too hard! I'll leave them, but hope people don't get too annoyed with their stupid difficulty.
     
  9. snow_mani

    snow_mani Well-Known Member

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    To notify users I would list the changes in the AppStore description and I would add a What's New button to the main menu of the game or a once off message screen that is seen the first time a user starts the game after the update.


    Yes.


    I wouldn't feel ripped off but I would be annoyed if I had been trying to complete any of those levels. Maybe create a new level that includes these puzzles.
     
  10. Zincous

    Zincous Well-Known Member

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    #10 Zincous, Feb 4, 2009
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    Just bought this app because I like games that are actually challenging. And thought this would be good if you don't think people can even do them.

    I've done a couple of the super hard levels already....
    Which ones are you saying are ridiculously hard? (I'd like to concentrate on those ones)

    I started with the last one (level 18) thinking it be the most difficult...:rolleyes: lol took about 10 min....
    But I am a puzzle person ;)
     
  11. ChrisJefferson

    ChrisJefferson Well-Known Member

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    Wow, well congratulations, you are much better at Combination than me!

    I have a tool which tries to rank the difficulty of levels, but it starts to get confused for too-difficult ones. It clims the most difficult levels are, starting from the most difficult, SuperHard 9, 3, 18 (the last one), 16.

    If you wonder why it's such a strange order, it's because I recently tweaked it to try to get more sensible results out for harder levels. I may well reorder the levels in the next version, but I'll keep which levels have been completed correct!

    I'll try to find some even harder levels! I do have some new means of imposing difficulty coming up in the next version...
     

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