Universal Heroes and Castles - (by Foursaken Media)

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  1. BrushMyNoseOff

    BrushMyNoseOff Well-Known Member

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    One of my favorite games! I get super excited hearing there is a possibility of a sequel; would pay a premium price for it. There is a huge following behind it as well, just look at this massive threat that glitched TA! ;)

    I think I would just like a more complex skill tree. Going for high scores and stuff was cool at the beginning, but the real fun in my opinion lied in leveling up your character and unlocking new abilities. Something like the sphere grid in Final Fantasy X would be great - that way a player has plenty flexibility in how they want to shape up their character.
     
  2. DarkNecros

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    an indepth skill tree sounds nice, maybe not as complex as the sphere grid but maybe something like 3 or so small trees focusing on an aspec of a hero.
    for example the barbarian could have:
    Rage Tree: skills that focus on giving him bloodlust, health, defence, and move speed.
    Warlord Tree: skills focusing on his weapons, attacks, critical rate, and combos.
    Presence Tree: Skills that demoralize enemy units and increase the morale of friendly units.

    and the twist would be you wouldn't have enough points to max ALL the trees so you have to flex around and build him to fit what you want to do.

    but the trick would be to build the trees such that there isnt a single dominating build, it isnt much fun if every single barbarian go pure rage tree with a few warlord points. you would want to promote variety such that players want to experiment with it and find a good build.

    Oh and a reset skillpoints for X amount of currency.

    on another note there should be an update that adds some more rune types to collect, i would love to get back into H&C.
     
  3. Foursaken_Media

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    One thing to keep in mind is the more customization there is, the less heroes there would be. So I'm curious, what do players like more - customization, or a variety of pre-made heroes? For example if you could choose from:

    - 1 generic hero with tons of weapons, armor, and skill paths - kind of a "create your own class" scenario - of course here you're going to lack "character" and personality, and you're just a generic guy
    - 3 heroes with limited skill paths, some equippable weapons & armor - a happy medium
    - 8 heroes with preset weapons and skill - lots of character and personality, where replay value comes from trying different heroes as opposed to different skill and equipment setups.

    which would you choose?
     
  4. JCho133

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    Well MikaMobile has us hooked up with the 1st choice. Idk I think I'm gonna have to see how I like the slightly shallower characters in BH2 but having 25 of them. Then I can give you a definite answer.


    Would choice 3 be just like they were in the first H&C?
     
  5. DarkNecros

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    personally i think have generic classes but each can be customized and specialized would appeal to the most people (choice 2)

    option one i believe some people start to feel overwhelmed with options and can never figure out what they want without somehow making a bad build. option one is doable but cusomizations would have to be very refined such that making an average build is easy, making a good build is easy if you have basic competency in understanding things, making a great build requires a good head on your shoulders or a bit of research if you lack a good head, and making a superb/perfect build requires careful planning, research, and a good head., but making a bad build would require actual effort or just not distributing skillpoints at all.

    i think choice 2 would be the best but if you can pull off option one it is without a doubt the best but is also the hardest to get right.

    choice 3 works and is easier to make it work, especially if thats what the player base wants.

    this is just my thoughts and two cents, i do not claim to speak for the entire playerbase and do not advise you to take my thoughts as the ruling opinion.

    I do know this: when foursaken media makes a game they always get it right.

    If you make H&C 2 i know it will come out great and i look forward to it.
     
  6. Fangbone

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    Have to agree with some of the more recent posts here. This is probably the best iOS game to date. It is the sole reason I bought an ipad. There is just so much to do its ridiculous. It's my game of the year and would love to see a sequel.
     
  7. Fangbone

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    I've had a couple of crashes in the past few days. Nothing special going on. Happens at the end of the level right after all mobs have been killed off. Playing on iPad air with iOS 7.0.4
     
  8. Fangbone

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    Little bit miffed at how this game didn't make the cut for the forums GOTY. Then you have GTA SA which just came out and honestly is barely playable on idevices. Oh well this is still GOTY in my book. Good work Foursaken. Thank you for such an awesome experience.
     
  9. JCho133

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    I'm annoyed
     
  10. Exact-Psience

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    Aaaand it starts.
     
  11. JCho133

    JCho133 Well-Known Member

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    I'm mad.
     
  12. Fangbone

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    I'm not mad at all. Just think maybe people forgot how awesome this game is. It was at the top spot of the hot games section every day for over a month straight.
     
  13. Exact-Psience

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    ^ahahaha... well, it is on my list (see my sig) but i guess not everyone has it as a part of their GotY.
     
  14. awp69

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    That's one of the problems with the GoTY polls. Games fresh in people's minds (more recent releases) sadly have an edge over others.

    Of course, they even say that about the Academy with Oscar nominations so I guess we're not any different than other awards. But our GoTY is much more important than then Oscars. ;)
     
  15. tops2

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    This would have been my game of the year too despite it crashing for me at the worst times (ie: when doing well). The fun for me is in multiplayer (and when the game doesn't crash). =P
     
  16. JCho133

    JCho133 Well-Known Member

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    I'm still mad
     
  17. JCHo, thanks for playing a few quick games tonight... If I could have only gotten back to my tree, tried to get all heroic :) I hadn't played in awhile and forgot the frailty of the evil heroes until mid to late game
     
  18. JCho133

    JCho133 Well-Known Member

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    Haha right there with you. Your engineer knocked me out...

    We probs coulda done better in Coop but for whatever reason it automatically spawned me in as my lvl 9 assassin... I woulda chosen my lvl ranger and we would have done a lot better haha, his maxed tree soldiers are vicious
     
  19. Dr_joey

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    H&C video

    Tomorrow, the Games Society Pimps' episode featuring Heroes and Castles will be released on you tube. Check it out.
     
  20. tjtoed

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    My son and I are trying to play coop after a long break from the game and every game one of us gets disconnected. Figured with BH2 coming out soon we'd fire up H&C for some coop.

    4saken still around or does anyone know if online coop still works? I do see its different with local and global but man we didn't get to play for more than 15 seconds before we got disconnected.

    Any ideas?

    I have a mini retina and he's on an ipad 2.
     

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