HA! Take that Apple!

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  1. randomdude

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    probably one more year and then Palm will go bye bye due to money issues and the only reason they're around is that they were given money by Elevation.
     
  2. Eli

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    Thankfully the Palm Pre tampon commercials will be immortalized for eternity on YouTube.

     
  3. pharmx

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    Lol, yeah...I think Apple must have bribed the people behind the Pre's marketing. I can't really figure out what market the Pre is trying to appeal to.

    As far as syncing with iTunes goes, Apple should definitely prevent other devices from having access. And the people calling Apple greedy for doing this...I don't even know what to say. Without iTunes, iPods and iPhones would not be the success they are right now.

    Until someone can mimic the success of iTunes, it won't matter how advanced the phone or mobile OS is. The funny thing is, if some of the big companies would stop trying to take on Apple alone and teamed up together, they might have a shot at it.
     
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    hahaha ohh yeah no question about that. Commercial made me feel really uncomfortable. I don't like going with any flow directed by a pigmentless female. rofl
     
  5. Booch138

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    I am calling them greedy only because that's what they are, and so are most every other company. It's pretty much business, I know. And I know there is nothing stopping them from it really, and they have the right to be (as they have pretty much conquered the music Device platform, and a store to back it up ten fold). I am just saying a human being, greed pisses me off because it gives people power, then they have control, and I don't like being controlled. lol

    P.S. Sorry trailed off on the greed issue.
     
  6. Eli

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    Steve's rockstar CEO status is what made iTunes possible, reading stories about the birth of the iTunes music store really is pretty amazing. I think iTunes has too much of a lead on the competitors right now for them to ever seriously do any kind of catch up without some significant changes to how the music industry as a whole operates.
     
  7. Big Albie

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    This whole Palm Pre/Apple iTunes discussion is a little ironic because a few years I worked with a client connected to Apple in the same situation. My client developed an emulator that enabled Macs to play Sony Playstation games, and Sony was quick to attack us and Apple resulting in a lawsuit. Apple, my client and I crafted a defense along the lines of helping selling more Playstation games because the reality was that Sony made most of its profit from games and not consoles. We implemented a grassroots campaign focusing on the giving consumers the right to choose which worked as I expected. The lawsuit ended up getting tossed because there wasn’t any obvious copyright infringement. The funny part is my client was later acquired by Sony.

    Bottom line is that this whole Palm/Apple fiasco has less to do with profits than it does with wielding control over choice. Apple makes plenty off its music sales, and the devices themselves have minimal profit margin.
     
  8. pharmx

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    You've hit the nail right on the head...before Steve came along, nobody ever even imagined that the pricing and distribution model that iTunes uses would work, never mind become successful.

    And you're right...the music industry needs to change how it operates. The problem isn't isolated to the music industry (although they seem to want to cling to the old way of thinking with every last breath)....it seems like big business and corporate infrastructure in general needs to start learning how to adapt faster to the population they are trying to cater to.
     
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    Ugh...Sony. I think a team of banana starved monkeys could run their gaming department better than it is right now. I seriously can't understand some of their business decisions. They have the resources and talent...they just seem to make poor choices.
     
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    #30 squarezero, Jul 27, 2009
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    You have that exactly backwards, Big Albie -- just take a look at Apple's most recent quarterly report. I wouldn't be surprised if the iPod Shuffle is a bit of a loss-leader, but all the other devices (and particularly the iPod Touch and the iPhone) are sold at healthy profits.

    I should add that the Sony/Apple situation is somewhat different from the Pre/iTunes issue. Apple sells the iPhone (and the iPod) as an integrated experience; part of the value of the device is in its seamless connection with the iTunes software. The Palm Pre is basically piggybacking on that value without putting the effort in developing their own software/hardware solution (and, by the way, while also violating the USB agreement). The Sony Playstation business is much closer to Gillette's shaver/cartridge model.
     
  11. Booch138

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    Yup. Which is pretty much the exact reason why Sony sucks sh!t. I mean don't get me wrong, I love my PS3 and my PSP, but some of the decisions made by Sony just make me cringe at how stupid (for lack of a better word) they can be.
     
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    $250 PSP Go.

    lol.
     
  13. Booch138

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    #33 Booch138, Jul 27, 2009
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    My point exactly.

    I just think it was too late for them to release something like that. Digital distribution is on the rise, yeah. But the system is practically dead (unfortunately). At this point, I would rather them work on a PSP 2 (Please god Sony... make it with 2 analog sticks) vs continuously updating the Hardware to the point of minute differences are your choice between the systems (PSP2000 to 3000 wasn't that big of a deal, I am sorry. A Mic and a slightly better looking screen is not enough of an incentive to throw 200 more of my dollars away).

    I don't know... I mean sure it's great for people who have never owned a PSP to get into the gaming, but for the 250 price of admision, the system is too dead for that imo. They are still selling it alongside the PSP-3000, but still. Just seems like one giant marketing shamble.
     

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