Guy faces 20 years for lulz video

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  1. Electric_Shaman

    Electric_Shaman Well-Known Member

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    So I just heard about this guy, Evan Emory, who is facing up to 20 years in jail for editing a video to make it look like he was singing a dirty song to a class of schoolchildren.

    Basically, he went to the school, sang a clean version of the song and recorded it, then edited and cut the video together with him singing the dirty version. And apparently that's classed as "manufacturing child sexual abusive material" and carries up to 20 years.

    Now, I'm sure any lawyer worth his salt will get him out of this in a heartbeat, and that the news station is just blowing the whole thing way out of proportion; but for the guy to get arrested at all is just WTF worthy.

    Video of a news report on the subject:

     
  2. Sxethang

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    WTF, this guy is an idiot! As a parent I would be pissed off! I don't think this is blown out of proportion at all!
     
  3. CaptainAwesome

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    There's just a line you shouldn't cross to get internet fame. This guy found it.

    To show the faces of unknowing persons, children or not, who aren't savvy to the prank in a video featuring controversial material isn't okay. Now, the news station is over-blowing the topic, but I don't see any surprise as to why the parents were upset and why he was detained.

    20 years is an awfully long time for something like this, though.
     
  4. Scrooge

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    20 years is an absurd length of time. He didn't even sing the bad lyrics in front of the kids. That was edited in later. I can understand the parents being upset, but to send the guy away for 20 years would be just plain evil.
     
  5. Sxethang

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    I think that would all depend on what's on that video.
     
  6. Scrooge

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    How so? The kids were not actually exposed to anything. The footage was edited.
     
  7. Sxethang

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    It doesn't matter that they weren't exposed, it was made to appear that way. IMO he might as well have done it, he made it look that way anyhow.
     
  8. Electric_Shaman

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    #8 Electric_Shaman, Feb 22, 2011
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    I can't agree. Allegedly, there is a disclaimer before the video explaining that it is edited, that the explicit lyrics were not really sung in front of children. Any amount of jail time for something like this is ridiculous. Sure, pull the video, give him a fine, community service, but spending time on this case and wasting resources on sending him to jail is just nonsensical.

    Anyway here's a link to some of the lyrics, in a news report
    WARNING, LINK CONTAINS EXPLICIT LYRICS NSFW etc
    http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2011/02/lyrics_from_evan_emory_video_i.html


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    Are you just trolling or what? Do you seriously think that swearing in front of children is the same as editing a video to make it appear that way?

    No one was harmed, no delicate childhood was destroyed, the only real issue is the lack of permission and deception in his true purposes in creating the first video.
     
  9. Sxethang

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    No I am not trolling, you brought the subject up, not me! All I'm saying is just because it was edited, and he never actually did it, it doesn't mean he's not guilty. Those lyrics are disgusting to put in a video with children. To me, that makes him guilty!
     
  10. CaptainAwesome

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    Now that I see what the lyrics were, I agree. There was no sense in what he did, and he deserves some form of punishment for it.

    There's just a point where you cross from "okay, I guess this could be funny" to "what the crap is wrong with this man?"
     
  11. Sxethang

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    Thank you, at least I'm not alone!
     
  12. Electric_Shaman

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    #12 Electric_Shaman, Feb 22, 2011
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    Just for reference, one can troll without having brought up a topic, for instance if someone asked how to copy and paste something and I replied that you drag and drop it into the recycle bin, that would be trolling :D

    Anyway, how is editing the video this way worse than say, a celebrity singing an inappropriate song at the kids choice awards? (coughRhiannacough)
    My point is, if this was done in a movie, or a TV show, no one would have a problem with it, and it probably would have just been performed in front of the kids too. Sure, permission would have been gotten, but that doesn't seem to be your issue, just that it's a dirty song with kids faces in it.
    It's not like the video is aimed at kids, it's not like it will affect them in any way.
     
  13. Sxethang

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    Do you have kids?
     
  14. CaptainAwesome

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    The chances aren't very high, no. But perhaps their parents are, and there's a chance that the joke could follow some of the children throughout their life. Not that it's a surety or anything, but the repercussions that could arise from being in the video without the faces blurred or anything in the original video are too high for a prank like this.

    Now, maybe he doesn't deserve a full twenty years, but he definitely needs some time to think.
     
  15. Scrooge

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    Electric Shaman, I agree with you.

    This guy said some bad things, but do we really want to start handing out jail time for offensive lyrics, especially when the kids weren't even really present? Is that the road people really want us to start going down?
     
  16. Scrooge

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    If the guy is to be punished, then it should be community service, no more. I can't support locking up people for what they say, especially when the kids weren't even present. But honestly, I'd prefer for the parents go after this guy with a lawsuit if that's at all possible.
     
  17. Electric_Shaman

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    No, I have a nephew. The fact that I do not have kids does not invalidate my argument, nor does it mean I cannot sympathise with your argument.
     
  18. Sxethang

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    Okay, when you have a child you're going to look back at this and understand where parents are coming from. It's easy to say otherwise when you're not a parent!
     
  19. Scrooge

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    Outrage is understandable. Letting that override reason to the point where this guy faces up to 20 years in prison, however, is not.
     
  20. Electric_Shaman

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    Only a child would fall for that kind of logic. Of course I can understand where you are coming from.
    In fact, I dare say I can be more objective as my judgement is not clouded by maternal instincts of parenthood. Yes, protect your child at all costs, even if it means sending a mostly innocent man to jail for 20 years, that is totally rational :rolleyes:


    Think of it this way: what if the guy that made the video was your son, and was facing 20 years in jail for making a stupid video.
     

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