Go go Android!

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  1. kcur

    kcur Well-Known Member

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    Then why are you on an iPhone gaming forum? I'm sure theres an Android gaming forum...

    Somewhere...
     
  2. julzsantana15

    julzsantana15 Well-Known Member

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    I thought this was pretty funny when i read it on Wikipedia, when i looked up the Android Market on it:

    "A report in July 2010 by Distimo showed that the Android Market features the highest percentage of free apps, with over 57% being free to download, double the amount of Apple's App Store, in which only 28% of apps are free."

    Android Market: 70,000 apps
    Apple App Store: 225,000 apps

    If my math is right, and please correct me if im wrong:

    Android Market free (57%)- around 40,000 free apps.
    Apple App Store (28%)- around 60,000 free apps

    Percentage of free apps don't mean crap!!!
     
  3. Hmar9333

    Hmar9333 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, percentage of free apps does mean 'crap'

    It means that is the Android app store also had 225,000 apps, then around 128,000 would be free. Twice as much as the iOS app store.
     
  4. julzsantana15

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    Not really, by the time Android Market gets thats many apps, how many apps will the App Store have? 1 million?? Maybe....... Probably....
     
  5. Hmar9333

    Hmar9333 Well-Known Member

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    Who cares? were talking about ratios here,

    the appstore has a free/paid ratio of about 1/3

    the Android appstore has a free/paid ratio of about 2/3.

    It doesn't matter if the appstore has 20,000 more free apps than Android, because there are 140,000 paid apps to compensate, whereas android only has around 30,000 paid apps in comparison.
     
  6. julzsantana15

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    Sure, why not
     
  7. The Game Reaper

    The Game Reaper Well-Known Member

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    Pretty awesome phone, wish I had the money…

    I never understood this approach to Apple.

    They are a consumer-driven company, who make consumer-targeted products. And their iOS platform has been an absolutely massive success. Everybody knows what an iPhone is. Hardly anyone outside the tech bubble knows what Android is.

    That's a compliment in my book.


    The Time Capsule isn't just an external HDD, it's a WiFi base-station, it backs up your computer pretty seamlessly and it's saved my computer's data twice.

    I wouldn't want to live without it.

    This isn't necessarily a good thing. Google shot itself in the foot when they put in that stupid subscription service for hosting paid apps. Developers of paid apps don't want to port their apps over to the Marketplace because of this.

    Which stunts the growth of the Marketplace as a viable platform to make money.


    Genius move, Google.
     
  8. Fleabag323

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  9. synther

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    #89 synther, Jul 30, 2010
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    Ok, so you probably have a Mac, and it apparently crashed 2 times. Seems like Mac's do crash.

    Here's my story, I have 3 HDD's in my desktop, one backs everything up. My laptop needed a W7 reinstall, and I actually lost no data, I was suprised! I don't even need a 500 dollar HDD..

    I have an iPod Touch.

    Not for me. They sell low-end products for a huge load of money, and they remind me of people like Justin Bieber, Beyonce etc.

    Another reason why I hate Apple: Apple fanboys are the worst of its kind. I know some Apple fanboy and they are convinced Apple is a god's gift. They flame every product that's not made by Apple. They feel better than everyone else because they have a Mac.

    It's all true.
     
  10. The Game Reaper

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    Good for you.

    I have an eight-year old eMac running an unsupported version of Snow Leopard, of course it's going to crash.
     
  11. SJP99

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    Ipod Touch game player person like thing????
    11th dimension
    IS your mac that old because you can afford a new one? macs are overpriced...way overpriced..there is no denying it
     
  12. sid187

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    i wont bash apple but maybe he has a ipod like me.. :D

    chris.
     
  13. sid187

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    i use a pc.

    however, this is how i see it.

    if i want to do movie stuff, graphics etc.. mac
    music production, mac.

    rest pc.

    even tho i do my music on my pc.. and i get good results. but the industry standard is mac for music.. i think i can say pretty confident.
    or maybe things have changed.. i have been out of the tech side of things for a while.. just getting back into nerding out again, and reading tech blogs. even tho they seem to like to live off rumors than anything.. aww the ipod got me interested again. laughs..

    before i had to retire ( health, motorcycle accident etc), i was a C programmer for Unix.

    and yes i still have my.. W Richard Stevens unix network programming bibles. :D

    first edition!!! rest in peace stevens.


    i found this place for adnroid apps.

    http://www.appbrain.com/ sorta like appshopper..
     
  14. synther

    synther Well-Known Member


    I do. I think the iPod is great, iPhone is kinda cool too (but a bit too expensive), iPad is also really cool (but too expensive), but the rest of their products sucks ass and makes the user feel superior to everyone who doesn't have a Mac. At least, that's my experience.
     
  15. Eli

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    I'm pretty sure you run the same risk of a hard drive dying and losing your data regardless of what operating system you run which is why backups are so important regardless of whether or not you use OSX, Windows, Linux, or anything else. The Time Capsule you referenced earlier as the "$500 2TB external hard drive" makes this completely effortless.
     
  16. synther

    synther Well-Known Member

    After a couple of days waiting, I cancelled my Desir. Instead I bought a Samsung Galaxy S.

    Great phone! Android works fantastic. Here I have a galaxy vs iPhone faceoff:

    Android is very customizable.
    Android works very smooth.
    Web browsing on my galaxy s is easier than on an iPhone.
    The galaxy s has a stunning display.
    The galaxy s is faster.
    The galaxy s weights less.
    The galaxy s is cheaper.
    The galaxy s's speakers are really good.

    iOS4 is easier to use.
    The iphone 4 has a higher resolution(but colors look better on the Samsung).
    The AppStore is bigger than android market.
    The appstore is more accessable (billing).
    The iphone 4 looks better.
    The camera on the iphone 4 is better at focussing on objects.
     
  17. The Game Reaper

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    #97 The Game Reaper, Aug 4, 2010
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    Galaxy S?
    Poor choice IMHO. Shoulda stuck with the Desire. Samsung's support in the phones department is virtually nonexistent. On the other hand, HTC is already rolling out Froyo across Europe.

    The amount of custom ROMs available for the Desire is far, far greater than the Galaxy S. I find Samsung's in-house custom skin to be more of a nuisance than anything else, whereas Sense is simply a pleasure to use, and it adds so much to the android experience.

    The Desire is pretty well-built and feels fairly solid in the hand, the Galaxy S feels cheap and tacky, like some chinese knock-off. It does not feel like a premium smartphone.


    But, if you're happy…
     
  18. c0re

    c0re Well-Known Member

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    I don't think pure ratio is the right way to lecture those results.

    Free apps are generally cheapy developed, because they're not made to make profit, so not expected to catch a lot of users.
    This means they're generally not very complex, nor hard to port on different platforms in no time.

    Android market is young, so devs are not yet eager to invest money on it. Instead, they prefer to test the user base response with light, free apps.
    Some are trying to turn those "test apps" to paid, but as it is still lacking of risk taking (quality wise), they fail at selling.

    Making profit on paid apps comes from quality, most devs know that. So as long as they don't want to invest on quality, they don't want to provide paid apps. As simple as that.

    This is precisely why I asked for devs to make that jump in the original post. As long as they refuse to take that risk here, there will still be no added value from the appstore, and Android will still miss those one-hit wonder success stories which made the appstore boom on its first year.

    I'm personally putting my grain of salt in this slow process by porting my incoming game both on appstore and Android.
    Which is what I hope every game engine users will do, as it's just a matter of one click.
     
  19. seyoon

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    I wonder if part of the reason why a lot of devs are not yet getting their feet wet in the Android Marketplace is because of the percent of rooters (emphasis on pirating app) compared to regular Joe Android users who pay for their apps. I'm very curious how devs view the Android Marketplace in comparison to Apple's App Store. Especially big names like Gameloft, EA, Capcom etc.

    We all know by now that the "store for apps" model is the integral part of the user experience in the smartphone world. If Google, Microsoft, Nokia or RIM can't pull this off, Apple will just continue it's lead. And without a huge number of devs, it'll be a machine without quality fuel.
     
  20. DavidHolliss

    DavidHolliss Well-Known Member

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    You do not need to root your phone to add pirate applications to it.

    You could walk straight from the phone shop, go home, connect the phone via USB, visit your favourite dodgy site, and drag and drop the downloaded file to the phone's memory card. Job done.

    I believe the biggest thing putting devs on putting games on the Android Market is Google's policy that buyers can instantly get a refund within 24 hours of purchase.
     

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