Yep, that marketing is evil. I mean everytime you go into McDonalds, it's like they brain-wash you into not being able to think for yourself and not being able to eat fast food in moderation and all of a sudden you lose the ability and desire for exercise I think it's the colour scheme of Ronal McDonald. That's what really does it.
I'm fine with feeding it to the hungry, but when you have a choice, its just stupid. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/genetically-modified-soy_b_544575.html. Let's wait a couple generations and see how we turn out. Also my main problem with fast food isn't the gmo's in the crops, it's really the way that they treat the animals. It's absolutely horrific.
I don't recall attacking you. I recall attacking your arguments though. Perhaps I'm looking at the wrong side of the monitor. This is a silly retort. To start with there's no iron-clad evidence one way or the other. However, best educated guesses have been available for a long time based on studying the geological record. Perhaps you can draw your own conclusion. With regards to crocodiles and such surviving when larger dinosaurs didn't, have a read here. I'll save you some trouble though and post the salient bit: So essentially no one knows for sure -- more best-guesses. I posted mine. I'll ignore your ad hominems, as I'm not interested in taking the low road. Yes and no. What we are accustomed to calling a calorie is actually a kilocalorie. It's just simplified and denoted with a capital C (calorie/Calorie) in the same way megabits and megabytes are differentiated in shorthand with lower-case and capital M respectively. (mb/Mb) A single calorie (lower-case) is the amount of energy it takes your body to heat one gram of water by one degree. (About 4.2 joules of energy, FTR) But stating that the average frozen dinner has 300,000 calories isn't as easy as expressing as 300 Calories, so it's shortened for simplicity, not marketing. (That's why you buy 2L bottles of pop, not 2,000ml, and why a can of pop isn't 0.355L)) We're so used to expressing it this way now that if anyone tried to express calories in full terms we'd be all WTF?
You have every right to your opinion, but as I told you in another thread, your source has a clear agenda. Therefore, I don't recognize them as a legitimate source. How animals are treated is a different debate, but I respect your position.
A calorie is 1/4th of a Joule, compared to the Calorie, which is 4200 Joules. Take into account how much energy you're body needs just to function, and the 2,000,000 calories with the lower-case "C" is normal. Your post was pointless.
I was actually about to begin talking about this too. As far as the death of the animal is concerned, I don't really care how it dies (as long as it doesn't affect me). Animals die slow and painful deaths all the time in the wild, so why should they be killed "humanely" in captivity? (although I agree that a more humane way i.e - quick beheading is better if available, but I am fine with stabbing, strangulation, shooting etc). Having said that, the slaughtering of animals in the UK and USA is generally handled very well and shouldn't really affect animal lovers. What I do care about is the life of the animal while it is living. I am against battery hen produced eggs - any way in which the animal is confined to a tiny space with barely enough room to move, I am against. I believe that animals should have a decent amount of land to enjoy their lives before they get killed. I only buy free range products.
Non free range chickens are kept in dark pens with hundreds of other chickens. They spread diseases and are fed hormones to bloat them enough to where they cannot walk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrxvxewC-gA : Warning, graphic content.
So, after reading through the last couple of days... I think that one of the biggest issues in defining problems or lack thereof with fast foods is that the words "healthy" and "unhealthy" have no definitive meaning that can be objective. Everyone has their own perception of their ideas, much like bad or good. At the extremes, people can generally agree, but that huge gray area in the middle is totally subjective. If "healthy" makes human life sustainable - fast food would be very healthy. There are street alcoholics whose caloric intake is almost exclusively cheap wine, and they can go literally for years... Probably most of the disease states that occur as a result of poor diet, exercise, etc. are still largely genetic. Fast food has been around a long enough time to see what ill effects would be occuring as a result of wide spread use, and despite the US's poor standing in overall life expectancy in the world, the life expectancy for both men and women continue to creep up. But, currently science has no real way of altering genetics, and so concentrates on those things that can be modified...
Shiz, I believe the second part of what you quoted was directed toward cubytes, and not you. After reading some of cubytes posts, it seems fairly accurate.
damn mindfield you tore up my rant hardcore but im glad you did as i would have it no other way. yes i agree its not entirely the fast food restaurants fault, just as you can argue that its not the gun manufacturer's fault when their weapons are used to murder innocent people but responsibility goes both ways... -people need to wise up an eat more responsibly thats for sure im not ignoring that fact -but the food fast industry needs to be held to more ethical standards and take on some responsibility too or be forced to by our will as the people of this nation just like the tobacco industry and the truth movements were succsessful so too can similar movements directed towards the fast food industry because they need to be held accountable and forced to: -acknowledge that their product is partly responsible for the obesity epidemic and the number 1 cause of death in the states -put flyers for programs inside all of their prodocts for everyone of their meals even the salads so that can help people learn how to eat healthier foods and live healthier lifestyles (assuming they can afford to do so but its a start just like the tobacco industry has to have "want to quit? get help" pamphlets in every cigarette pack they sell) -force them to pay a percentage of all the money they spend for marketing to contributions for programs and charities that aim to educate people and help them establish healtier lifestyles, so the more they spend in marketing the more they have to contribute -even force them to invest a percentage of their overall earnings into rehabs for those who are "addicted" to fast food or have unhealthy eating habbits it worked against the tobacco companies it can easily work against the fast food companies or any company for that matter. its just the people need to really step up on this one, both in being more responsible and secondly have the courage and the perseverance to hold these companies accountable. thats how we can change america
Why do all your ideas involve coercing others? Seriously, if an individual will not take the time to help themselves, no one can. We all live and die by our choices in life. You can not force an addict to change their behavior. They have to decide to do it themselves. Ask any alcoholic. If they decide not to change, so be it. You are an activist in search of a cause. It gets old, and it's insulting. At the heart of your assumptions is the belief that we are all children in need of your wisdom. You have no respect for your fellow man. That is why all your "solutions" involve forcing others to conform to your grand vision. Frankly you sound a little nuts. You will need to accept the fact that some people will not decide as you. It's called free will. It is essential to life. Perhaps, you should worry more about your own decisions and less about those of others.
aww i'm sorry you feel that way about me. I'm not going to argue with you here because it sounds like I may have said something that has truly upset you and whatever it was I apologize from the bottom of my heart.
