Lol. I was just going to post something along those lines, but I don't want hijack the thread anymore. That was perfectly succinct.
No, I fact no one type of food can cover all our dietary needs. Look at the Food Guide Pyramid, diversity is the theme. That requires a varied diet.
Actually, depending on what sort of fast food you are discussing, it does cover all that. And don't forget that cholesterol is a complex fat made up of several components, some good, some "bad", but cholesterol is an absolute necessity for cell synthesis, so again it is about moderation, which many people have a hard time with.
my issue with fast food is that... Its generally unhealthy in that it has little nutritional value whatsoever. Seriously, you don't go to a fast food restaurant to eat healthy food or to get a salad, or fruits & veggies, or good quality meat. I mean COME ON get real, you go there to intake fat, sugar, and caffeine, made quickly at a relatively cheap price, by people who most likely hate their jobs. its an industry that is responsible for an epidemic in obesity and also can be attributed to the number 1 cause of death in the US; heart disease oh but its definitely not the corporations fault. Its the peoples fault right? some people just don't understand moderation. What a wonderful opinion. yes let's blame our own ignorant selves as consumers slowly becoming more and more dependent on an food supply that has become predominantly unhealthy. hmmm i wonder where that blame the people opinion came from? cuz you know that all of the half a million people who die each year of heart disease are just fattys who eat too much fast food anyways, they should know better...am i right? just let them die? is that your solution? come on wake up!! (IMO) the problem is; -fast food is addictive -theres a fast food restaurant everywhere tempting you to grab a quick bite to eat -these corporations leverage toys and playgrounds to lure in kids (sic) -these corporations also spend billions of dollars on advertisements, branding and marketing to get you to eat more unhealthy food *begin rant/ and honestly how can anyone stick up for monsanto, if you do you most certainly have been drinking to much anti-piracy cool-aid. the reason farmers hate them is not because they are "big agro" its because they are cold hearted bastards and from what i have seen thats standard operation for them. they are abusing their ownership of IP and yet you're so blinded by anti-piracy propaganda that you actually defend them and say they have a right to do that! WTF WTF WTF? them being a huge multi billion dollar international corporation abusing independent farmers on OUR soil that NO ONE can afford to stand up against. yet you defend them? why? do you hate piracy that much? so much that you can simply ignore all the abusiveness inherent in the system? who cares if they spent billions of dollars doing research that DOES NOT give them the right to extort farmers into unreasonable terms under threat of legal action by claims of copyright infringement... *end rant/ anyone else find it odd that a little bit of genetic manipulation can allow you to essentially own nature? im sure that will work out greeeeat for future generations.
@cubytes: Your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrogance. Did McDonalds shove the food in their mouth? I worked for a Dietitian for 4yrs. I taught Diabetes, Cholesterol reduction, weight reduction classes, etc, all in a hospital. You are not doing people any favors by putting blame for their various conditions on a third party(corporations). You only enable them. It's hard enough to get people to change set eating habits, but if you take their responsiblity away, it can become impossible. Why don't you take your anti-corporate rants somewhere useful. Perhaps the Grand Canyon. I hear it's nice this time of year.
there was a show on last night about McDonalds and the food chain supply. The most disturbing part was where they had baby chicks on an assembly line and were marking them with a machine. The whole time I was thinking "What if those were humans!" I'm going to be taking a break from Chicken McNuggets for awhile... but I'll still get my favorite hamburgers from Wendy's.
...you can't get the taste of tinfoil out of your mouth long enough to enjoy it? I honestly don't know where to start... nothing you've claimed has any basis whatsoever in reality. There is no proof whatsoever to back any of it up -- which is pretty much the MO of most proponents of organic foods/anti-GM nutters and anti-big-business people. Not that I am accusing you of this, I don't know you, but this is what your words are saying about you. Please cite which chains offer food that, in general, contains little nutritional value -- pointing specifically to nutrition guides that show how little nutrition they contain. Most people hate their jobs regardless of where they work; please do not distract from the issue with strawmen. And while I grant most people order fast food for the less healthy items on the menu, there are many who do indeed go there for salads or whatever low-cal items are on the menu because they're usually halfway decent, cheap, and quick. This is the most ridiculous part. The industry is responsible for people who lack the willpower to avoid overeating fast food? You're blaming the industry for giving people what the people themselves are asking for? Seriously? Seriously?? This. Full stop. Not an opinion. Well-established, incontrovertible fact.
I'm not a big fan of fast food, but it's okay sometimes. I like Subway sandwiches and azn food. It's tastes good and it's not as unhealthy as McDonald's or Burger King. Over here in my hometown (Aachen, 250.000 people) there are like 3 or 4 McDonald's, 1 BK, 1 KFC and 2 Subways (We had 4, but 2 of 'em closed...).
Nice job, Mindfield. I was going to break down Cubytes ridiculous post and argue against more or less every single point. But you have done it for me (and I agree with everything you said)
Growing up, everyone caught on that fat people aren't entitled to any opinions, friends, good treatment lol so I've subconciously avoided fast food all my life but I loves me a good high class restaurant.
since im trying to persuade people that fast food is bad, what negatives does fast food have? -lots of calories -contributes to obesity -manipulates kids so that they beg their parents to go to places like these I know that these points can be argued agaisnt, but it's not a debate. I'm only trying to tell people the negatives. what else can you guys think up of? EDIT!: just another thought...Do you think small kids look up to people like Ronald McDonald? Does he really have a big impact on why kids like coming to McDonalds?
To make a good critical essay, you will not only need points that make your argument, you will also need to include those points that can undermine your argument. It's called acknowledging the other side. It will increase your credibility with the reader.
Do you have proof of that? For all we know the meteor could've simply caused mass eruptions of volcanoes and triggered an ice age, thus killing those lizards. Yes I know that there is a giant ass crater in in the Gulf of Mexico. But that isn't enough evidence to conclude that the dinosaurs were killed by just a meteor. But what I don't understand is how alligators (or was in crocodiles?) survived. ice age would've killed them, they're cold blooded. If all the other dinosaurs died, they would've too since they are carnivores and would have nothing to eat. If a meteor killed everything else I'm sure it would've killed them too.
Lot's of calories and contributes to obesity are the exact same thing. One time I read an article on what mcnuggets are made of. I never saw chicken in there.
Thanks. I don't like hijacking threads generally, but I can't let ignorance go unanswered. It's a character flaw. In case you didn't catch it, I was simplifying for the sake of snark. I'll try and simplify a little less here: Big rock falls. Big boom. Lots of dirt and material displaced, enters atmosphere, hangs in air for long time, blocks out sun. Nuclear winter lasts years. Big lizards have no sun to warm themselves by. Big lizards die. Poor, poor lizards. Crocodiles, alligators, and other small cold-blooded creatures have a whole hell of a lot less blood to warm than proper dinosaurs. It takes much less heat to warm them, and they warm much quicker. They can survive by finding some sheltered, deep cave or something where geothermal heat keeps them warm enough to survive. Plus, they can fit in smaller sheltered areas. T-Rex, not so much. So of course because this one completely unbiased source with absolutely no agenda of its own said it, it must be true, right? Honestly, do you think the FDA just sits there with its thumb up its bureaucratic butt while letting all manner of things companies are free to call food turn up in a restaurant chain that's on virtually every freakin' street corner in North America? And failing that, even if in some alternate universe created by Matt Groening this turned out to be true, do you really think it is conceivable that, after all these many years and billions served, nobody noticed by now and tipped the FDA off? Critical thinking. Let me show you it.
Wow you really need to take a chill pill Mr.I-know-it-all-and-you're-all-stupid "In case you didn't catch it, I was simplifying for the sake of snark. I'll try and simplify a little less here: Big rock falls. Big boom. Lots of dirt and material displaced, enters atmosphere, hangs in air for long time, blocks out sun. Nuclear winter lasts years. Big lizards have no sun to warm themselves by. Big lizards die. Poor, poor lizards." Well congratulations you can simplify I completely understood. Now how about you prove a meteor hit and killed all the dinosaurs like I asked "Crocodiles, alligators, and other small cold-blooded creatures have a whole hell of a lot less blood to warm than proper dinosaurs. It takes much less heat to warm them, and they warm much quicker. They can survive by finding some sheltered, deep cave or something where geothermal heat keeps them warm enough to survive. Plus, they can fit in smaller sheltered areas. T-Rex, not so much." I'm sorry but I lol'd at this part. So what cold clooded animals live in tundras? Sorry, none come to my ignorant mind. Honestly I'm cracking up. "it takes much less heat to warm them" Where did they get this heat in this period of no sun? Oh yeah, they invented fire But your right on your next point. All these crocodiles and alligators crawled into holes and hibernated there until the sun came back. Geothermal areas. Hmm could work, but what about food? I'm pretty sure they didn't live off small mammals. They can't scavenge for that long of a time. About the McNuggets: Maybe I should add sarcastic faces next to everything I write. But maybe I should dumb it down for you. I like exaggerate (mean stretch truth), I think it funny. Five star on that post in terms of comedy. But maybe you should get your over inflated head out of your ass and think a wee bit more? Or maybe let a little air out of your head. I like a discussion and don't attack people personally if I don't agree with their views. But your post was just looking for a fight, and I'm not afraid to give it to you.
So you're not willing to speculate. Good. Then we should drop the whole "man causes castastrophe" part of this debate. Whether it's species extinction, or global warming, we have far too few of the variables covered to guess at such complex systems.
Just for the record and to get back on topic, did you know that every time you consume one Calorie, you're taking in one-thousand calories? Yeah that's right, for all you people that are eating a 2000 Calorie a day diet, you're actually eating 2,000,000 calories?
