Universal Fable Age (by Blue Tea Games US)

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  1. fableageparmenion

    fableageparmenion Well-Known Member

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    If the pattern holds, we're looking at
    Wicked Fairy (Fire) starting Sunday, Chromatic Elixir Mon/Tue
    then Friar Tuck
    Huntsman
    False Prince

    Most characters seem to have the maximum active level as 5. I think there's a bug with the Sapphire Alchemist evolving into Sapphire Master Alchemist where the Active is reset to level 1.

    I vaguely remember Emerald Master Alchemist has a max active level = 4.
     
  2. fableageparmenion

    fableageparmenion Well-Known Member

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    Ick, another bug.

    The news page says "Chromatic Elixir" but the Special Quests says "Legionaire [sic] Elixir". And completing it gets you either 1 (Heroic) or 2 (Godly) elixirs. I feel cheated!
     
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    At least they have the Chromatic Elixir for today and tomorrow, although the news page says "Legionaire [sic] Elixir." I might have to grab a few to go!

    My gut feeling is that above a certain amount, the marginal utility of each percent of resistance decreases (and of course caps "normally" at 60%). Although you can increase the cap if you have increase to maximum specific element resistance (it's one of the level 4 enchantments). Plus there's that bug / "feature" where Chromatic Resistance doesn't get calculated against Dark opponents.

    Overall though, Chromatic Resistance is still very useful as the number of Dark or purple-colored opponents isn't that many. Maybe I'll harass Blue Team Games to fix that bug.
     
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    #1344 fableageparmenion, Jun 9, 2015
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    Just recording for posterity some of my Chromatic Elixir enchants:

    Chromatic Resistance:
    4% x 6
    5% x 6
    6% x 8
    7% x 6
    8% x 6
    9% x 2

    Greater Chromatic Resistance
    11% x 3

    So the Greater Chromatic Resistance seems to occur about 10% of the time. Hrrmmmph.
     
  5. fableageparmenion

    fableageparmenion Well-Known Member

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    False Prince, the Mad Knight

    Time for another hero.

    The False Prince legendary quest is in about 2 weeks. The legendary quest is a bit tough; it definitely helps to have a Shadow Hound or better, Epic Shadow Hound. Fairy Godmother also works as a substitute if you have her.

    Barring that, you should have high fire resistance, some way to restore links, high health, and potentially some way to heal and/or take away heart gems. For instance, Cinderella is very good here since she changes heart gems to water gems and heals a bit. This helps to reduce the number of links you'll use.

    The False Prince hits you every round and augments the damage with any heart gems on the board. As well, he turns a heart gem into a dark gem.

    On the flip side, should you conquer the False Prince, he's a very good ally -- very high damage. If you get to max level=120 and fully potioned, we're talking max health 3127 / max power 2490.

    His passive is +8% to critical chance and +200% critical damage; this is more than any Legionaire [sic] elixir. I've seen anything from +1-2% critical chance and +10-50% critical damage, although I really haven't done the Legionaire Elixir that many times.

    His active reduces the cost of linking by 2 (i.e., down to 3). You'll burn less links while linking. So you should net more links if you have link restorer.

    By himself, he's a pretty solid offensive hero. With most teams, he's a solid add, especially with his high damage and high damage boosters (his passive). He doesn't do any area effect damage like Rose Red or Castellan, or do any direct damage like the Swordmasters, so he's highly dependent on the amount of Fire gems you take in.

    Occasionally I've subbed him in for Heroic difficulty quests -- say with Rose Red, Lady of the Flame, and Snow Queen, Regent of the Ice.

    With Godly difficulty quests, I usually prefer defensive heroes to offensive heroes.
     
  6. fableageparmenion

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    Guinevere, Queen of the Round

    Max Power 2089
    Max Health 3634

    Guinevere is one of the three Legendary Fable Queens along with Snow Queen and Rapunzel. Arguably all three are excellent in their own regard. All three play a support role.

    Guinevere's passive restores health at the rate of 160 per link restored. This counts in terms of her active, as well as any other character that restores links (Jack, Lancelot, Red Riding Hood, Snow Queen, as well as Merlin's Warmth, Midas' Midas Touch) and of course any links you get due to the combo length.

    Guinevere's active, Meditation, restores 12 links per turn over 5 turns. Unfortunately it has a very long cooldown (level 1 = 24 turns) as compared to say, Merlin, who restores half your links with his Warmth active, which has a level 1 cooldown of 16 turns. However, I'll take what I can get for healing and link restoration.

    Guinevere's max power is on the lower side for a Fire hero, 2089 (when max level=120 and fully potioned out). Her passive is far more useful when combined with other heroes that restore links.

    Guinevere is very useful for situations where you need some additional healing and some links restored. With medium link restorers like Jack/Lancelot/Red Riding Hood, since the links you'll get are more determinative, it's easier to predict how much healing you get -- although in general less. With Snow Queen, as the chance of critical is random, it's a matter of luck how much healing you'll get. Guinevere in combination with Midas makes Midas' Midas Touch active effectively a full heal.*

    * Maximum links currently if you finish the 23rd Fable book = 120, meaning Midas Touch can restore up to 120 links and thus 19200 health.

    The only time I've had more than 19200 health is with max level characters and Big Bad Wolf, Tyrant of the Woods, level 100, and then I'm up around 25000 health. Most of the time I'm between 15000-17000.

    I find I use her a lot for Legendary battles and if I'm in a pinch, instead of Merlin, the Heroic versions of XP Tome / Legionaire Elixir / Chromatic Elixir / Elixir of Wisdom. She is definitely no Merlin -- next hero for review.
     
  7. fableageparmenion

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    Merlin, The All-Powerful Wizard

    Max Power: 2082
    Max Health: 3800

    Merlin is a very rare hero, only available on certain Fridays and this rotates. Other very rare heroes include Rumpelstiltskin and Fairy Godmother.

    Merlin is the ultimate support character. His passive, Wizard's Embrace I and II, increases "combo rate." Wizard's Embrace I increases the combo rate by +50% and Wizard's Embrace II increases combo rate +100%.

    (Step A) In previous posts, I mention that you get a base damage number for each character based on their power. If you took in one Fire gem and one Nature gem, for each Fire hero, you'd just get their base damage, and likewise for each Nature hero.

    (Step B) Had you taken in more than one of a particular gem type except Heart gems, you normally get a bonus whether it's a normal gem (+5% per specific gem to that hero type) or a burst gem (+25% per burst gem assuming no burst gem related heroes like the Savages/Brutes/Constable or Sheriff of Nottingham/Mountain Dwarf or Mountain Dwarf Master/Belle).

    (Step C) This gets multiplied by any hero related powers like "+50% Fire/Nature/Water hero damage" or "+25% Chaotic/Lawful/Neutral hero damage".

    (Step D) There are additional multipliers like Midas' "+80% Area Attack" or Thrushbeard's "+80% Attack when Health is full".

    (Step E) Lastly, you get a bonus based on how many gems are in that combo.

    For Heart gems, you roughly get 5% of your health per Heart gem (with all level 100-120 characters, that's about 750 health). This gets multiplied by Step E.

    Merlin boosts what you'd get in Step B and Step E. The bigger the chain or combo, the bigger the boost -- it's geometric.

    The only downsides of Merlin that I can see are:
    1) Merlin does not have an ability to activate for a lot of damage like Rose Red or Castellan.

    2) you do need links -- and a good amount -- to do a lot of damage.
    This is mitigated by Merlin's Active, Warmth, which has a Level 1 cooldown of 14, which is really good. This restores up to half of your maximum links.

    Comparatively for heroes who have an Active that restore links:
    Midas, King of Gold restores all your links (Level 1 cooldown = 25)
    Guinevere, Queen of the Round restores 12 links every turn for 5 turns (Level 1 cooldown = 24)
     
  8. fableageparmenion

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    Goldilocks, Master of Bears

    Goldilocks:
    Max Health 3800
    Max Power 2127

    Goldilocks is a straight-forward defensive hero. She doesn't combo too much with other characters except maybe Big Bad Wolf, Tyrant of the Woods (where you sacrifice up to 75% of your current health and then use Goldilock's Mighty Hammer of Vengeance active). The Mighty Hammer of Vengeance ranges from 1 (if you have full health) up to 5.5x the amount of health that you have lost (roughly). The Mighty Hammer of Vengeance is considered Water damage.

    Goldilocks has a defensive passive, Viking's Protection I (Goldilocks levels 1-60) and II (Goldilocks' evolved form, Master of Bears, levels 61-120). They give you 15% and 20% resist all, including Dark, respectively. This is one of the only things that helps against Purple colored (i.e., Dark) enemies. There may be a bug in the game where Chromatic Resistance, which is supposed to apply to Dark, does not get calculated.
     
  9. fableageparmenion

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    #1349 fableageparmenion, Jun 16, 2015
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    Snow Queen, Regent of the Ice

    Snow Queen, Regent of the Ice:
    Maximum Level: 120
    Maximum Health: 3832
    Maximum Power: 1948

    Snow Queen's passive restores links fast, 12 per critical hit. As your party's base critical chance is normally pretty low, 5%, you have to have some heroes or enchantments to increase the base critical percent. If the critical chance is too low, you don't stand to gain as much. There is a chance of inflicting criticals per attack as well as per enemy if you use area attacks, so Snow Queen's passive is best against groups of enemies.

    The highest critical chances occur with Rose Red, Lady of the Flame (+20%), then heroes like Castellan of the Beast (+4% per chaotic hero), Little John the Mighty (+4% per neutral hero), and Apple Witch Queen (+4% per lawful hero). Then False Prince, the Mad Knight (+8% critical chance).

    An all-chaotic party with Snow Queen, False Prince, Midas, the King of Gold and Castellan might be tempting, giving you a base critical chance of 29%, although I think Rose Red's Active and Passive are better than Castellan's (Rose Red's Active does 30x damage vs. Castellan's is only 18x damage; Rose Red is +20% critical chance vs. Castellan's only is +16% with the above heroes).

    Snow Queen's active, Implosion, is highly useful. It ignores armor and ignores element including Dark. It does 25% of remaining health vs. all enemies on the screen (group or single). This means if you're hitting some of the stronger legendary quests, you're doing over 6 million damage with Implosion. I use this to also keep track of how much life is left (i.e., if Implosion does 25%, then remaining life = 3x Implosion damage).

    There's no real strategy for timing Implosion. If you can use the Active, use it -- well, unless you're saving it for a final boss.

    Downsides:
    - Criticals are random, not determinative; you can't count on the number of links you get back, you sometimes have to "hope for the best"
    - Snow Queen doesn't do a lot of damage on her own (although Implosion more than makes up for the damage she doesn't do) -- 1948 power for a level 120 hero is the lowest (I think)
     
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    #1350 fableageparmenion, Jun 19, 2015
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    Midas, King of Gold

    Max Level 120
    Max Health 3526
    Max Power 2158

    Midas, King of Gold is available only on the weekends for purchase for the hefty price of 10 million coins. This may seem like a lot, but it's possible to do it in about a month -- you just have to stop buying stuff at the Daily Shop. This may seem like a drastic austerity measure, but you'll be offered the same things every week at the Daily Shop, and once you get Midas, you can go back to buying stuff at the Daily Shop.

    When should you think about getting King Midas? Well, if you can regularly defeat Midnight Passage in the Wicked Witch Fable as well as either the hard or heroic difficulty of the weekend Dwarven Vault fable, that's a good time.

    Midas is a great hero for his cost. He's one of five 6-star Nature heroes, along with Dragon Prince (Legendary Quest Drop), Rumpelstiltskin (very rare Friday draw -- in fact, today), Frog Prince, and Rapunzel. Midas serves as a mid-damage tank support hero. How does he compare against the other 6-star Nature heroes?

    Dragon Prince is stronger but doesn't give area attack bonuses. His passive causes you to lose links instead of health, so you need more link restoration.

    Rumpelstiltskin is weaker and his passive needs to be charged up, but Rumpelstiltskin's active "greatly poisons" enemies (not sure the exact amount).

    Rapunzel is a support-defensive hero; her Active reduces damage taken by 40% and passive changes 3 random gems into burst gems ONLY when you take damage. (So Rapunzel+Dragon Prince is a very bad combo as mentioned before)

    Frog Prince increase Nature hero damage +60% (Passive) and changes Fire to Nature gems (Active). I find him to be primarily an offensive/offensive-support hero.

    His passive drastically increases your area attack damage, +60% for King Midas (levels 1-60) and +80% for the evolved form (levels 61-120).

    His Active takes a very long time, 25 turns -- but gives you all your links back.
     
  11. qq28

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    Strong allies wanted

    Hi guys. First of all, I wanted to thank you all for your valuable info provided on this forum and on the wiki. I really enjoy this game, and the info has helped me greatly. Too bad there are no more updates. I'm at a point where I can get through the hard difficulty quests generally without problems, but get killed in heroic quests.

    If anyone is willing to offer me strong allies, I would really appreciate it. I don't have much to offer since I just started, but a LV 58 King Thrushbeard or LV 50 Cinderella. Any friend assistance would be great. Thanks!

    Code: t0sJnTOSML
     
  12. fableageparmenion

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    Well, for difficulty, you should try to potion up your heroes, especially the 5* and 6* ones -- like Thrushbeard. And also try to evolve them.

    I suggested as a rule of thumb:
    Average level of all heroes = 25-30 and limited potions will get you through most to all normal quests.
    Average level of all heroes = 50-60 and moderate potions will get you through most to all hard quests.
    Average level of all heroes around 75 and mostly potion'ed will get you through most to all heroic quests **

    The hardest heroic and godly quests are the Monday/Tuesday elixir quests and the XP Tomes. I wouldn't attempt those (unless you have stamina or keys to burn) unless you are very close to or fully at maximum. For instance, my first successful run was with level 115 Midas, King of Gold and everyone else level 100 (Rose Red, Lady of the Flame) or Level 120 (Snow Queen, Regent of the Ice; Merlin, the All-Powerful Wizard; Goldilocks, Master of Bears and/or False Prince, the Mad Knight).

    I think in general your progression should be:
    1. Start game, do training (6 missions)
    2. You'll have a free rare draw -- try to get a really good hero.
    Jackpot = Fairy Godmother, Merlin, Snow Queen, Guinevere
    Very Good = Rapunzel, Battle Queens (Cinderella, Ivy, Briar Rose), Brownweave Bear, Shadow Hound
    Pretty Good = Rose Red, Aladdin, Frog Prince, Prince Charming, Jack, Lancelot, Red Riding Hood, Barbarian, Warlord, Paladin, Lord Robin Hood, Mighty Beast King, Queen Snow White.

    My qualifications are: the higher their max level, the more useful in combinations -- the better the heroes.

    3. Do easy quests and fables
    4. Get potions, keys, etc.
    5. When you can do hard difficulty and you have 4 heroes of a color, that's a good time to attempt the Elemental Elixir key quests -- those will give you resistance to a specific element.
    6. You'll need slightly above hard difficulty including a link producer to attempt the Blocking Battle Forge Elixir key quest.
    7. Keep grinding to get experience, potions, keys, etc. as well as get evolve materials. Defensive and Heroic elixirs result in higher elemental resistances.
    8. When the weekly quests come up, stay at the most difficult that you can regularly do (so as not to waste stamina), although it looks like it's a 4 month cycle, so don't fret if you can't tackle the Heroic difficulties.
    9. Getting a full complement of heroes -- especially 5* ones -- is necessary to advance through all the hard difficulty fables.
    10. Start getting the 6 star heroes.

    These two are "easiest" to get:
    Thrushbeard, that you have -- just need people to take your referral code
    Midas -- save 10 million coins

    I think these are the next most difficult from least to most:
    a. Dragon Prince - need poison, nature resistance
    b. Phoenix Prince - need fire resistance
    c. False Prince - need decent blocking, fire resistance
    d. Goldilocks - need water resistance, healing, link restoration

    11. White getting a good panel of 6 star and 5 star heroes, use fable stones to get key heroes as above.
    12. Keep leveling / grinding.
    13. Once you've maxed out, you can tackle the hardest 4 sets of quests.

    a. Chromatic Elixir
    b. Legionaire Elixir [sic = their spelling mistake, not mine]
    c. Elixir of Wisdom
    d. XP Tome

    All heroics are slightly easier than the godly for each of the above sets. The first two have a final boss of a specific element, the last two have a final boss that is purple or Dark, and there's a bug where only Goldilocks' passive affects the damage.

    [I did beat the Legionaire Elixir on godly difficulty this morning, as a refresher.]

    My two favorite elixirs are Chromatic (resist all!) and Blocking.

    If ever I get like all level 5 Actives where it's reasonable (i.e., not Level 5 Active for only Friday rare-draw heroes and King Midas) and everyone is at their maximum level, I might contact contact Blue Tea Games to see if they'll let me do some product management/programming for kicks.

    Some other fables they haven't done:
    Ali Baba
    Morgan le Fay
    Peter Piper
    Baba Yaga
    Bluebeard
    The Gnome King
    Mordred
    Sinbad
    Shahrazad / Sahrazad / Scheherazad and Shahryar
    etc.
     
  13. qq28

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    Thanks for the tips! And thank you for those that added me! My biggest regret is not coming across this forum sooner. By the time I saw this forum, I was already 2 weeks into the game and too lazy to restart. If I had a do over, I would repeat the tutorial until I get a really good hero. Then save up all the fable stones to buy Geppetto and Rose Red, maybe even Repunzel but 40 stones seem too expensive.

    What's up with the drop rate on Belle? Finished hard quests 8 times and nada.
     
  14. fableageparmenion

    fableageparmenion Well-Known Member

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    Oops, I didn't reply?

    Belle's drop rate as with the others is about 25% on Heroic and 10% on Hard. Of course you could get lucky.

    I think I usually sink in something like 800+ stamina over a week on these and I usually average getting around 8-10 drops in Heroic. I think it averages that I get my active up 2 levels.
     
  15. fableageparmenion

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    Hey Vendince: Legendary Fable Queens is this week, with Fairy Godmother as the Friday "very rare" draw!!!
     
  16. fableageparmenion

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    #1356 fableageparmenion, Jul 8, 2015
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    Fairy Godmother

    Since Friday is the very rare draw of the Fairy Godmother, here's my PSA (as in public service announcement):

    Fairy Godmother and Fairy Godmother, Granter of Wishes
    Max level = 120
    Max Health = 3803
    Max Power = 1793
    Alignment: Lawful
    Element: Water

    Passive Skill: Fairydust Shield II: +40% chance to block to a max normal of 50%. (You can increase max block only if you have Defensive aura which increase max chance to block.)

    Active Skill: Healing Wish: Full heal / recover full health

    Fairy Godmother is a great add to a majority of teams (except maybe Dragon Prince). The major downside is she is a defensive character -- which means that while she has a ton of health and she provides blocking and healing, she doesn't do a lot of damage. Damage tends to be geometric based on gems you take in as a factor of your base damage (although you can amplify that damage with Merlin).

    In terms of say fighting the Godly difficulty Chromatic Elixir, I was using a base team of
    1. Midas, King of Gold,
    2. Rose Red, Lady of the Flame,
    3. Snow Queen, Regent of the Ice
    4. Goldilocks, Master of Bears [in Heroic difficulty, I don't need as much resistance so I use False Prince, the Mad Knight in this slot]

    And friend:
    5. Merlin, the All Powerful Wizard

    Definitely the best combo. I could sub in my friend who has 5. Fairy Godmother, Granter of Wishes -- however, every battle took longer (so there's more potential to make mistakes), sometimes a lot longer -- especially the boss battle. The trade off is that you will get hit a lot fewer times due to the higher blocking.

    By the way, for intermediate battles before the boss battle, sometimes it's necessary to use up some heart gems *even if you don't need healing* as this increases the potential number of non-heart gems i.e., increases your offense/damage.

    Fairy Godmother doesn't combo with other characters (unlike say, Snow Queen + Rose Red + Guinevere).
     
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    That's exciting! Knowing my luck, I'll probably draw squires, Druids, or enchantresses. Regardless, I'll give it a shot. Legendary fable queens will be a nice addition too. Hey, one can only hope right? :)
     
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    So I was under the impression that skill merge lvl is carried over when the hero is evolved. Had a red riding hood with a maxed out skill lvl 4, evolved, then goes back to lvl 1. Grrrrr...
     
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    fableageparmenion Well-Known Member

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    There's a bug, or maybe it's a feature. I dislike it too. If the *name* of the skill changes (sometimes to reflect that it's a different damage or different whatever) -- then the level of the skill does NOT carry over and resets to 1.

    Examples:
    Robin Hood
    Beast
    Snow White
    Sapphire Alchemist (becoming Sapphire Master Alchemist)
    etc.

    I used up my stockpile of Fable gems this morning (35 of them, 7 draws):
    Queen Rapunzel x2 (the only good one) --> I used one and a Fairy I was saving and got level 2 Active.
    Flame Enchantress
    Fire Sage
    Nature Squire
    Nature Enchantress
    Nature Druid

    Grunt.

    Incidentally, I can see someone who has "Arthur, King of the Round." Wonder how this person got this hero?

    Passive: +100% damage if you take in 20 or more gems
    Active: Ignore all linking effects (i.e., linking cost 0) for one turn

    I think it's time to save up Fable gems for another few months...
     
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    #1360 qq28, Jul 10, 2015
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    That sucks. Seems the draw rate of the good heroes are really low. On the bright side, you did get a rapunzel and merged to lvl 2.

    Perhaps King Arthur was available at one point or maybe is still available now just with .001% draw rate. Active skill is not useful if the team has link makers. Passive seems pretty
    good though.

    I'll be rare drawing later today and will post my results. Fingers crossed. Wish me luck.

    Update: I got

    Shaman
    Water Druid
    Briar rose
    Cinderella
    Sorceress

    Sigh...
     

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