Universal EPOCH.2 (by Uppercut Games)

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  1. VaroFN

    VaroFN Well-Known Member

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    Use spoiler tag!!!!
     
  2. oldsnake

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    #502 oldsnake, Sep 5, 2014
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    Come on,I play until the ending,I like to see the ending of every games without know how it ends..so please avoid Spoiler please,use as already someone say the Spoiler Tags..
     
  3. Exact-Psience

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    Not only is it a spoiler post, he's also being an ass about it through his last post. Im thinking maybe this is his first time ever seeing an ending to a game, reacting like that and posting it here, and he needs the attention. :p

    I have reported the post, im sure our mods can take care of adding the spoiler tag.

    As for the game, i plan on making EPOCH.2 videos as i do MHFU :)
     
  4. IAP items in Arena Update

    Hi Everyone,

    We have been following the discussion here over the past few days, and some of you make some very valid points about the IAP only equipment in the Arena Update.

    The horrible truth is that the Paid market on iOS is really tough, and getting tougher. EPOCH (1) made almost 3x the money that EPOCH 2 has, and EPOCH 2 was in every way more expensive for us to make. In fact it has only just broken even and is now after 10 months on the store actually making us some small profit. I know, crazy right? What a difference 2 years makes.

    This is not meant to be some kind of developer sob story, we're not looking for your sympathy, this is a business. I do hope by explaining some of this you can at least understand why we do what we do.

    Our intention is not to make EPOCH 2 Freemium, and it will stay as a paid game at $6.

    However, Apple approached us a few months ago about being the "Free App of the Week". What this meant to EPOCH 2 was over 1 million new free users (without having to pay for user acquisition). As most of you know, you can play through EPOCH 2 without ever spending any money. And that's the way we want to keep it, but at the same time we would be stupid not to try to monetize some of these new players who got the game for free.

    Since we don't have any pay wall or fuel systems, on average we get less than 2 cents (closer to 1 cent!) from "Free" players.

    So we decided to make the Boss Armours IAP only. I know this sucks for our original users. We discussed and debated it for days, but in the end we needed to make a decision about what would give us the best return from these new free users.

    Ed also spent a lot of time tuning the BOSS weapons to make sure they are not better in Arena than the normal tier 4 guns that can be bought by playing the game without IAP.

    As some of you have mentioned in the thread, for someone who paid us $6 for the game at release, maybe $1 would be a more fair price for these items? Well, we plan to do an IAP sale next week making everything $1 for a few days, and we will let Touch Arcade users know when this sale is on.

    We do value our loyal long term fans, trying to do this while actually keeping the business running is a tough balancing act.

    We're still holding out and making games for the Paid market..almost every other small developer we know has already gone Freemium or is going Freemium with their next game...
     
  5. Exact-Psience

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    Thank you... I really appreciate you dropping by with those words. Hopefully EPOCH.2 gets some good sales either in the app or through IAPs, coz i really like every release you guys have made.

    Looking forward to the upcoming sale, i will definitely be buying all of them if they really are going to be a buck each.
     
  6. oldsnake

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    @UppercutAJ: I really appreciate that you're come here to explain how things are, and I hope that the sales of EPOCH 2 will get better and better and better, the fact that you still intend to stay on the Premium games says it all, as far as The sale of IAP next week i waiting for you and support you if The weapons And armor Are at last 1 buck Each..
     
  7. oldsnake

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    @Exact-Psience:The IAP only weapons/armor can be only Used in ARENA only,or i can equip them also in Campaign? Thanks
     
  8. Exact-Psience

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    Havent tried yet, but from what i understand they can be equipped in any mode.
     
  9. oldsnake

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    Thanks EP,Waiting for IAP sale 
     
  10. Exact-Psience

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    Yeah.. It actually makes more sense if it was Campaign-only (as a cheat to get more powerful faster) rather than Arena-only, but it should work on both modes.
     
  11. nonlamer

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    To be honest, I don't think getting tier 4 guns is hard. and by your comment the current price of IAP guns and their potential seem not worth paying. Am I wrong?

    Hey, about freemium game, they have other things to motivate the user to paid for the items. usually costumes and decoration. but to do that the game need to be more social. I mean more interaction between gamer.

    Just my opinion.
     
  12. Exact-Psience

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    ^Well, from what i see on the numbers, the boss weapons (IAP weapons) are more powerful.

    An obvious example is this:

    Tier1 burner Spray-n-pray
    damage: 2
    rate of fire: 0.20

    Tier2 burner Torrent
    damage: 3
    rof: 0.20

    Tier3 burner The Gusher
    damage: 5
    rof: 0.20

    Tier4 burner Old Faithful
    damage: 7
    rof: 0.20

    Tier4 burner (IAP) WORM Deluge
    damage: 11
    rof: 0:20

    Despite WORM deluge dealing explosion damage type, you can see the difference. That's a jump of damage per tick from 7 to 11... More than 50% increase in damage output.
     
  13. oldsnake

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    Can't wait for the IAP sale..
     
  14. Exact-Psience

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    Same here.
     
  15. oldsnake

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    Well,now you know why I want this IAP weapons/armor for play and have fun to blast boss and robot in Campaign..instead of Arena,for the numbers you provide,a normal player can do better score in arena and have a better GAMECENTER leaderboard with this weapons,than me and you "hardcore players" without this weapons..
     
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    #516 nonlamer, Sep 11, 2014
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    That's the only weapon worth mention. What if the player isn't a fan of gusher?, let's look at sniper weapon.

    Tier4 sniper Bulls-Eye
    damage: 168
    rof: 0.50

    Tier4 sniper (IAP) Sniper Marksman --> $4.99
    damage: 170
    rof: 0.48

    You kidding? is that fair for sniper weapon user? does the IAP sniper can penetrate through cover? or no charge-up time? what make it superior to the normal tier4 sniper? no description at all. Now, is this worth buying when you can earn 1 million credits in 5 mins and buy Bulls-Eye instead.

    Let's look at Berzerker Bishot and Bombardier Cannon, how should I know what type of attack they are? a projectile normal shot or homing or dual-laser? I heard that Crusher smash is a charge shot like Blaster in a facebook comment which some player personally ask Uppercut via e-mail. Their lack of info to represent IAP weapon and armor is a problem too.

    I know that Uppercut need money but I think their marketing strategy went wrong or not good enough.
     
  17. oldsnake

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    New Update out
    V1.3.1:
    Fixed localization
    Fixed certain items breaking the tutorial
    EDIT:i'm a little bit scary to update..i waiting,And waiting for IAP sales..
     
  18. oldsnake

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    OMG,it will drain my battery in no matter of time..i notice in The in-game setting "power save"And as default it's off,Someone know what is?i mean,for consume less battery?
     
  19. Mr. Grizzly

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    This game heats up my devices so much. Any way to change the game settings so it does not do this?
     
  20. oldsnake

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    EP it work on iOS 8? I'm level 54 EPOCH,got all,except IAP stuff..
     

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