iPhone Eclipse 4X space strategy (by Big Daddy's Creations)

That sucks. How could they have not fixed such a glaring issue yet?

Wait, if the AI uses it, then is it supposed to be that way in the game?

 

Nope, it is not. From the manual, page 24:

I'm pretty sure I saw BDC acknowledge the bug and mention they were working on it on BGG.

 

Can we players make use of that bug, or is it exclusive to AI only?

 

Players can use it too.

 

So at least it's fair. It just makes the game totally cheesy and unrealistic.

So if you take a hex, release it, then take it again, do you get those resources added to your income AGAIN?

 

No, I think the planets will still show as "full," and will not be available for new population cubes.

 

VeganTnT: I am afraid the current state of the game is not really ripe to go another round of lesson. If you don't mind to go another round, let me know.

 

I missed this somehow, but BDC posted a HUGE list of bugs they're working on:

http://www.bigdaddyscreations.com/888/eclipse-bugfixes-and-enhancements

Hopefully they can salvage this.

 

That's good to hear.

Personally I wish they'd make a new tutorial as I still don't understand a damn thing after having this game weeks.

 

Salvage it?

Seriously?

I came into the game having never played the board game and have easily been confused by some of the big name board games on the App Store, but this game (after a few plays) became much easier to understand. Beyond that, I've had minor issues in comparison to the crazy complexity of this game. Hell, just look at the board game. That's all here, and while it is imperfect, it's still pretty solid

 

Salvage is maybe a bit too strong of a term, but for people who know the board game well and want to play it competitively online, the game is just plain broken. There are major issues that we all found immediately upon trying the app for the first time, and the fact that you can't see what your opponents do in multiplayer makes it impossible to react to their strategy.

They did some things right, but as of now a lot of us are awaiting a major update before bothering with the game any more.

 

Any update on this patch? It's been almost 3 months since this post... Even a partial update at this point would be good as a lot of these bugs (which you have already crossed off the list) really effect gameplay.

Thanks!

 

Yeah. I'm holding off playing until the patch since at least one bug is totally game breaking (strategy wise) and I don't want to learn the game that way.

Starting to feel a little burned here.

 

Agreed... a lot of these bugs could have been solved with a very quick hotfix. (For example changing the alien cruiser initiative to 2 is likely only changing 1 number in the code). This should have been done immediately following release when all these issues were pointed out.

I have been a big fan of your stuff bigdaddy but you are really dropping the ball on this one! You did such a good job on this app overall but are shooting yourselves in the foot with how long this update is taking. Some of these bugs REALLY hurt the game.

For example: in the last game I played on the app... One of the computers had 18 material production after his first turn! By Round 7 he had made 4 cruisers... 2 dreadnoughts... and had 75 material in his bank... this is truly crazy! Thankfully I still kicked his butt since he wasn't smart enough to trade his materials in for science to get upgrades... so all his never ending ships just got wrecked by mine.


EDIT: also... it would be nice if you taught the AI good counter PM strategy. Then more people would know how to deal with it as I'm sure people pick up tricks from the AI all the time... The key is improved hull and shields. If they have to roll a 6 to hit you with the missiles and are sitting ducks if they miss... you just need some hull to survive the couple of 6's they roll....

For that matter... the AI in general seems to employ good baseline strategies... but they don't react to what others are doing appropriately.... I know you can't program every scenario in... but capturing some of the big ones would be nice!

 

But with the support this app has gotten so far, should we ever expect to see that expansion available in the app?

 

I hope this is the case. I purchased this app while it was on sale and I haven't touched it since because I was waiting for it to be patched. I don't mind the wait as long as they do it right and stamp out the major bugs. However I think everyones patience is starting to wear a little thin.

 

I wouldn't have minded so much if the bankruptcy bug hadn't been there. My understanding (keeping in mind I haven't played) is that this completely shifts game strategy.

It's a little frustrating that they do depend on uberpatches. Good software practice nowadays dictates releasing in as small a work unit and as frequently as makes sense for the deployment mechanism. I realize with the App Store that means *somewhat* bigger patches than, say, a web app, but this is kind of silly.