Discouraged from buying the 6s+ now, you?

Discussion in 'General Game Discussion and Questions' started by ramzarules, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. chaos_envoys

    chaos_envoys Well-Known Member

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    About premium games, when they didn't sell much again (maybe 1 to 2 copies a month), I think the devs will not bother to update it.. The solution is in apple's hands for this IMO... Like TWEWY where it's hard to update the game because square needs to contact HAND (the dev who ported TWEWY) and get many permissions before doing that will make big publisher unlikely to update games when the sales dropped..
     
  2. Nekku

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    #22 Nekku, Oct 10, 2015
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    This might be true, but on the other hand, Apple is always eager to simplify things for developers like easier and simplified syntaxes as example which then might break some things. I think sometimes it's better to drive its own product further instead of staying in the past where it just becomes outdated and not up to todays standards at some point. Which one out of both sides would you choose, personally?

    If Square has so much trouble to get its licensing stuff done, this really isnt Apples problem imo. This is just between Square and Hand in this case.
    iOS betas are given out months before a GM is released so this should be enough time to fix stuff if someone really cares about it. Most devs these days dont care until people start to complain. Oddly enough, at this point, fixes are made surprisingly fast.
     
  3. chaos_envoys

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    I like apple's simplifying things and making things quicker, but there are games that aren't broken so there must be a set of rule on how to run apps, and IMO, apple should set a rule on how app load that doesn't change much, or still works with old ways... If a game breaks just between iOS 8.2 to 8.3 (not even a year) that's apple's problem IMO.. I expect an app to work for a minimum of 3-4 years before breaking..

    Another way is to charge people on updating premium game to work on newer OS for the dev to make some money, but if we have to pay every year, that's kind of absurd though..

    For me, I prefer my games working even if the OS is outdated, but that doesn't mean my processor is outdated since I'll buy new gadget every 2 years.. Just change the cosmetics, but don't change how app will load since processor will always speed up every year and that should compensate it..
     
  4. Nekku

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    #24 Nekku, Oct 10, 2015
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    Mostly, I guess, it's due to changing certain API's and how they work. This is also why it's near impossible to maintain compatibility for older OS versions. If an app uses new or updated API's which were just added/modified to/in let's say iOS8, there is no way to make this app work on iOS7. Except those API's contain even outdated code for older OS versions but then it gets messy and cluttered and pretty much Android. ;P
    If an app breaks due to a minor OS update after a couple weeks (worst case scenario) then it was bad timing. This app could have also been released years before and then you would have your 3-4 years. Like, at some point, Apple just *has* to make changes even if those changes might break some things. Just imagine there is probably no other way to get new things implemented without breaking others. What should they do then? It's either one or the other.
    But I do get your point however.
     
  5. chaos_envoys

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    We can't get everything we wanted in real world... Maybe in a perfect world this is achievable... But as of now, I get your point about implementing new things will break others... This is why emulators are better now since they'll always works.. The downside is no new games, and I can just play my old games...
     
  6. dancj

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    #26 dancj, Oct 10, 2015
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    I find it hard to get too upset by it. I still have a ridiculous amount of games installed that I haven't even tried so if their are a few casualties here and there I can live with that.

    That said, I tend to wait for sales so I don't get burned for £5+ at a time when games stop working.
     
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    The iPhone is for those people who want a phone that they can call as a "fashion icon". "Hey look at me I have an iPhone so that automatically means I'm trendy".
    If you really game a lot, then the appstore is still a lot bigger than the Android store. Other than that, it no longer has any features that are clearly superior to the Android competitors. Inferior camera, inferior storage, inferior CPU/GPU, much higher price, the stupid restrictions Apple puts on you and the whole anti-jailbreak race, ugly design of the 6 generation (looks like an enlarged iPhone 2/3, seriously wtf), and lack of any 2015 mobile features (fingerprint, multi-gesture, screen pressure, etc).
     
  8. dancj

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    I'm sure there are some people like that, but I think most people who get iPhones get them because they are nicer to use.
    If you care about getting any given feature first you're probably best off with Android. With iPhones Apple tend to take their time working out a way to add the feature which will stick and be supported by third party apps.
    The 6 and 6+ got the best ever score on dxomark.com. It looks like the latest models haven't managed the same, but I'm sure they'll get that back again.
    In what way? If you're talking about the lack of SD support then I'm glad of that. I used to deal with that, but I much prefer on-board storage.
    But still winning the benchmark tests.
    Well, yeah
    I don't agree with all of the restrictions, but but I do believe that the restrictions placed by Apple contribute to the greater experience on iOS.
    Yeah
    Interesting opinion, but IMO the latest generations are the best looking and feeling iPhones to date.
    I'm really not sure what you're getting at here. These features are on the latest iPhones.
     
  9. slamraman

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    I got a 6S plus last week and although it is great, Jeff Minters old games - Minotaur Rescue et al with the exception of Gridrunner and GoatUp 2 - don't work.
     

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