You just stated that there are missions, that's gameplay, you can not like it, but it's gameplay, and it's better than most shooters on the iOS, have you tried New york Zombies? Infinity project? Dead Trigger is the epitome of great gameplay compared to them. And there is story line, you can't say there isn't, actually a thicker story than CoDZ's.
Oh my god, you completely forgot about the casino. DT had one of the best and fulfilling slot machine experiences on ios! How can you miss that? Deep Gameplay? You answer me, which game has deeper gameplay, DT or Angry Birds. Is Angry Birds a tech demo? Or does it not qualify cause the graphics suck?
Let's see, CoD: Shoot Zombies with aim assist (talk about no skill required), Repair and open new areas till you get killed. Dead Trigger: Shoot zombies with different scores depending what body part you hit, no aim assist, cause with so spot on controls you don't need it, unlike CoD, 5 mission types (Story and Side missions): Kill zombies, Defend, Surive, Carry packages, Arena mode and all of them include opening new areas and getting extra rewards for exploring. "The zombies are all the same" Wrong, it actually has more types of zombies than CoD, with different abilities AND it spawns more Zombies on screen than CoD. That's deeper gameplay. Really, you're that blatantly unaware that DT has a storyline? Primoz, if you think DT is a tech demo, debunk my post where it states it's not a tech demo.
It's no more, or less a game then FarmVille. It's a freemium focused model that is orientated towards user transactions primarily.
Infinity Blade II is a much more realized game with better production values. It has a quality soundtrack, setpiece moments, great enemy design, and isn't trying to be realistic, which means the graphical style of the game is very unique and pretty. Combat is very deep when you get beyond the first playthrough and start getting to higher levels, and a lot of secret areas can be explored that you wouldn't find when going through on earlier runs. So no, it's not a tech demo. Minigore: Zombies is a top-down dual-stick shooter. Robotron 2084 had a lot less depth than this game, and it was the first of its kind. Minigore is designed to be easy to pick up, play, and put down, in true dual-stick carnage. Thus, it is not a tech demo. New York Zombies is a game I have not played. From what I have seen, however, it is a game you can pick up, play a few rounds, set down, and walk away from. A simple, mobile experience with good combat, tight controls, upgrades, tangible progress, and a feeling of progression; no tedium, no repetition, just evolution. That's not a tech demo, either. Call of Duty: Zombies is a survival game. You'll see these on games from Gears of War 3 to Red Faction: Armageddon. You're put onto a map with three buddies to survive for as long as you can before you're inevitably overwhelmed and die. That's not a tech demo, that's a game mode. Everything in Dead Trigger looks like a plastic-y, rubbery surface. All the zombies look like face-shaped mirrors that are colored in with a marker. Nothing looks real, just silly. I feel like I could model a zombie out of clay, bake it, and paint it, and it'd look just like an undead being in this game. It's got nice effects, but the world just looks fake. I'd say N.O.V.A. 3 is not a tech demo for several reasons: it has a full-length campaign with an actual plot, Gameloft hired voice actors (and writers, thank god) to make the world seem more alive, and put time into making the game playable. Despite the imbalanced multiplayer, that doesn't make it a tech demo, it makes it a good game with imbalanced multiplayer. Prove FIFA 13 is a tech demo. It's starting to feel like you're throwing it around like a buzzword. Real Racing was a realized game with few features, but it came out at a time where a big mobile game was unheard of. That doesn't make it a tech demo, it makes it a game that came out at a time where a game of the size we're used to didn't exist. Dead Trigger is a game in which you go from mission to mission to do one of several things: kill all zombies, collect all packages, or don't die. You do this on recycled maps that rarely have any variables to make the game interesting beyond "point-and-shoot". The controls are bare-bones (they added an ADS button post-launch), there's a lack of game modes beyond the standard, recycled missions and survival maps on three different locations (three whole locations? You're spoiling me!), and a bunch of weapons, with the cooler ones costing money to use. Yup, totally not a tech demo. Just a very, very limited game with little-to-no-variety whatsoever. Does this make it bad? No, it just makes it a tech demo. Enjoy your foundation. I should also note I love how you defend the game based on its bland "story" that is delivered to you in the form of text (that is poorly written and in several cases, has typos) when you slander N.O.V.A. 3 on the basis of being a tech demo while it's fully voice-acted, has a coherent story told across three games, and actually has gameplay variety! This is hypocrisy on a whole other level! Really now? It seems like you were the one who brought it up in the first place! I just gave you a well thought out argument, and you're going to say, "anyone who disagrees with me is a troll"? That's an incredibly low blow that's basically saying, "I'm right and you're compensating for something."
I want you to recognize that while I respect your opinion, I still disagree. I wanted to show you why I disagree, and why I feel your use of the word "tech demo" is incorrect. Just because Dead Trigger is a tech demo doesn't make it fun, it just makes it a tech demo. That's not a bad thing!
I see you misread most of what I wrote Triscuitable First Frame: 1. I never said IB was a tech demo, I said that if you insist to widen the term so DT fits, then you drag IB, cause it was used to display HDMI, don't mix things up I'm not hating on those other games (Except CoD maybe a little ). 2.Dead trigger is also designed to pick up a play short bursts, but it makes it a "tech demo" and Minigore not. 3. New york zombies 1 is just a tap and shoot, not movement, that "sense of progression" is not true, is just a very watered down RPG, NY2 is the exact same thing, only with movement, highly criticised gameplay filled with glitches and awful controls, I never said it was a tech demo, (I might add, I beta tested for that game) 4. I also didn't say CoDZ was a tech demo, I just said DT's gameplay had more variety. Second Frame: Of course they look fake, they look as realistic as an iOS game can look, still miles better than CoD Zombies or any of the other shooters I mentioned. Third Frame: Nova 3 showcased using HDMI, an iPad as console and a plug-in physical joystick thingy I don't remember the name, by definition a tech demo, the same for fifa and Real Racing. The DT you portrait here, even the biased watered down way you put it, it still sounds more complete and vast than CoDZ, does it make CoDZ a tech demo for it's rough nature then? Look I know it's not bad to be labelled a tech demo, but is a fallacy, cause is not true, not a fact, it's like saying an apple is a vegetable, it's not bad, it doesn't offend anyone, but it's not true. Don't you see I'm using your own definitions against you? Thus proving DT is not a tech demo. Fifth Frame: Not hypocrisy, really, I'm not hating on any game, I'm just showing how DT is not a tech demo, and there's no foundation for it. 1. It's not unfinished, 2. It wasn't used for showcasing any kind of technology 3.You may not like it, but it still has more content and better development performance than many other games that don't get labelled a tech demo, it's just a game that came out for the sole purpose of getting played, not to show anything, not a tech demo. Sixth and final frame. Fiiiiugh: I'm not conditioning anyone who disagrees with me, I stated before on several occasions that I don't care if you like it or not, that's you own taste and opinion and I'm cool with that, but it's not a tech demo and that is a fact, I'm not trying to troll, honestly. Yeah I appreciate that, I also respect everyone's opinion, but pardon me if I sound insistent, cause calling this game a tech demo is not an opinion, it's a stated fallacy, cause it's not a fact, and if guys insist to drag DT to a tech demo label, I just say there are tons of games that deserve that label better than DT, for the actual good reasons. Still I appreciate the good debate.
Each time you use the word "tech demo", you use it in a buzzword sense. You throw it around wildly, not seeming to actually recognize how you use the word. It also seems that you trying to "use my words against me" is putting words in my mouth so you can make me look stupid. This isn't just counter-productive, this is instigating a fight that can only end poorly. Considering this is a Madfinger thread, that shouldn't be alarming to either side. To top it all off, you disregard my entire reply just to revert back to your initial opinions, not even displaying a decent argument as to why you should follow such biased beliefs. But I digress, because this thread is growing more and more venomous by the post. If there's some way for the admins to give me the title of "Loves a Tech Demo", I'd appreciate it. Goodnight, goodbye, not coming back until the game is out. Christ.
What??? Are you saying that Robotron is a tech demo??? Robotron is one of my favorite games of all time. I am actually CEO of the Robotron Defense Squad. Oh, this really pains my ears...
How do I use the term? A tech demo is a tech demo, which has a definition that DT does not fit in, how hard is that to understand? And if you insist to call it that, well there are other games that deserve it better and I just proved it. I didn't disregard your post, I debunked it point by point, the only points I repeated are the ones you didn't read correctly. "But I digress, because this thread is growing more and more venomous by the post. If there's some way for the admins to give me the title of "Loves a Tech Demo", I'd appreciate it. Goodnight, goodbye, not coming back until the game is out." Talk about venomous and hypocrisy. Haiz.
Ha! I had to see a doctor because you make me sick. Just kidding but I seriously had to see a doctor, that's why I couldn't respond sooner. Anyway... Aim assist. Let's just concentrate on CoD WaW Zombies for easier communication (and uh... because CoD BOZ sucks on the phone). Aim assist was added, because the whole portable device FPS was rather new back then. It only makes sense that they added aim assist. There are however 3 options for auto aim and I have it on low (if there'd be a no aim assist option, I'd use it). That's not a skill requirement indicator though. Talking about shooting skill... DT was designed to have no aiming (trough sights) at all. It only got added later, because people requested so. You don't need to aim in DT at all... How lame is that? And it's not about getting killed in CoD, it's about how long you can survive and all the fun and adrenaline you have while playing. You also get different points for shooting different parts of the zombie in CoD (body and head give different points). Not only that, the parts also fall off. Did you even play CoD Zombies? Missions? I think the TA review totally nailed this, when they said, that the missions are just a lame excuse for killing zombies. It's not like the missions are unique in any way, you just shoot zombies all the time. Only difference is the walking distance. Sure there is a "story". But the funny thing is, that even a single weapon in CoD zombies has a way, WAY bigger and better story behind it. Since missions and story are the only things that make the gameplay by your definition better than CoD Zombies, which I completely dismissed above, you have nothing else to say why DT is better than CoD Zombies. If you do, please say. I'm still waiting for the DT story summary.
??? I missed the part where you debunked anything. You only criticized other games without anything constructive.
Court Exhibit B: further proof that Nova 3 is a tech demo... In fact, while we are at it, let's call Wild Blood and my wireless bluetooth Soundfreaq speaker and my hybrid stylus and Gamelofts duo bluetooth joystick all tech demos...
The only games I criticized was CoDZ cause I hate it, and NYZ cause I have played them, unlike you, the rest of them I compared them to how closer than DT they where to being a tech demo. See connector's post, that's just the top of me debunking your arguments, I'm not reposting everything again so you can disregard it without even reading the post properly.
Poor thing I hope you're alright lol but seriously, hope you're strong for a good debate, last guy ran out of arguments. I remember a couple FPS that had proper controls and no aim assist back then, nova and MC at the top of my head, That is actually an indicator about skill, DT designed for not aiming? in CoD the aim assist gives you like 60% of the screen for direct hits, in DT you NEED to put the reticule on a zombie so you can hit it, there's not such thing as "designed to not aim". Yes, both of them, hated them, but tbh I didn't remember head shots giving you more money, so, point for you How's this any different in CoD? Sure the console version of CoD has a storyline but not the iOS version, it's like Devil may cry, a watered down version of the console counterpart, there's no story there. Tbh I don't remember the DT story over 7 months since gave it a decent play, something about experiments and what not, I never said it was a good story. We reached the part we're we wrestle to see which game is better, I'm not here for that, my only complain is people miscalling DT a tech demo, You like CoD better? great, I don't, let's leave it a that.
