@macplash that all just sounds impossible to me! I’m lucky to win never mind without taking a hit and that’s nowhere near BC5 so yeh that must suck. But will you just instantly get it for free when we have that update or have to do it again? I know you weren't a big fan of the bridge constructors over poly bridge but if it cheers you up the new waking dead one comes out next week and the gameplay looks good and actually different to the other bridge games. Although I’m nowhere near as experienced in them as you.