Universal CHAOS RINGS III (by SQUARE ENIX INC)

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  1. michaea

    michaea New Member

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    #2301 michaea, Feb 25, 2017
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    The basic idea is to make your normal attack do huge damage by stacking phys boost, element boost, and crit x2 (stacking only works in the biggest boss battles).

    You can guarantee critical with Critical First Attack, and you can amplify damage with Gamma Knife, Berserker Catalyst, and element lotion to make the boss weak to your element.


    The setup is 3 Kenshins (interchangeable with Masamune)

    Skills shared by all 3 Kenshins:
    - Critical x 2
    - Physical Boost
    - Fire Boost (in the image I replaced all three with Light Boost as an experiment - any element works if it matches the element of your leftmost gene, or if you use a lotion on yourself)


    Specific skills that at least 1 Kenshin should have:

    Floodgate
    Critical First Attack
    Berserker Catalyst
    2 x Magnum Fang (inherited)


    Defensive skills (if you use all of these, you should take almost 0 damage):

    Mental Wall Catalyst (inherited)
    Unstoppable (inherited)
    2 x Physical Shield (inherited)



    The remaining skill slots can be filled with anything you want.



    How it works:
    - Equip weapons that have high attack and fire damage boost
    - Use Gamma Knife and Ice Lotion on the boss
    - Hit him with Magnum Fang to boost your break bar and get him down to 50% health (possible with 2-4 actions depending on how often you critical)
    - Hit him with one normal attack that should do 999,999 damage (50% of his health)


    Let me know if you want me to walk through how I got those skills onto Kenshin.
     
  2. DOGMADOGMA

    DOGMADOGMA New Member

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    Please post the method of how you got those skills onto Kenshin. How do you put more than two inherited skills in the blue boxes?
     
  3. Psac42

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    Just another jump in to say this is a great game. Sorry I waited so long to try it!
     
  4. michaea

    michaea New Member

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    #2304 michaea, Apr 20, 2017
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    Sorry, I didn't explain myself well. You can only put 2 inherited skills in each Kenshin (or Masamune). So you get a total of 6 inherited skills for your team. I chose these:

    2 x Magnum Fang (from Wagner)
    2 x Physical Shied (from Solomon)
    Unstoppable (from Da Vinci)
    Mental Wall Catalyst (from Isseult)

    I didn't write out the fusion chains I used to get each of these onto Kenshin or Masamune, but there are many different fusion sequences that work for each one. Once you get a good gene collection it's easy to experiment by using a clone of your game save.


    Here's one example I did write down:

    Kenshin with Physical Shield amd Magnum Fang:

    To get Physical Shield on Kenshin:

    Start with Solomon (leveled up until he learns Phys Shield)
    + Agamemnon -> Ishtar
    + Okita -> Kenshin

    To get Magnum Fang on different Kenshin:

    Start with Wagner (with Magnum Fang)
    + some earth or light element gene (I don't remember which I used, but I have used multiple different ones... maybe Amaterasu? EDIT: Xuanzang, Athena, Gagarin, Romulus + Remus all work) -> Kenshin

    Then fuse the Kenshins:

    Kenshin (Physical Shield) + Kenshin (Magnum Fang) -> Kenshin with Physical Shield amd Magnum Fang


    There is a chart of which elements fuse to which:
    https://gamelytic.com/chaos-rings-3-gene-fusion-combine-guide/




    Here is my full team:

    Kenshin A:
    - Magnum Fang (Wagner)
    - Mental Wall Catalyst (Isseult)

    - Fire Booster (July Coliseum box)
    - Critical x2 (natural)
    - Physical booster (natural)
    - Floodgate (natural)


    Kenshin B:
    - Magnum Fang
    - Physical Shield

    - Fire Booster (July Coliseum box)
    - Critical x2 (natural)
    - Physical booster (natural)
    - Berserker Catalyst (quest reward)


    Kenshin C:
    - Unstoppabe
    - Physical Shied

    - Fire Booster (July Coliseum box)
    - Critical x2 (natural)
    - Physical booster (natural)
    - Critical First Attack (quest reward)
     
  5. DOGMADOGMA

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    @michaea: Wow, awesome! Thank you so much for the details of how to get the skills. I have almost all the skills except the Mental Wall Catalyst but now I see how to get it. Do you know if we have a way to get more catalyst skills (as in farming methods) or four types from the quests rewards are the only ways? I know from different fusion of genes, it is possible but just curious if some grinding ways we can get more. Thanks again for the clear post, which are rare in this thread as many had wrong or erroneous assumption about different fusion results or farming rewards.
     
  6. michaea

    michaea New Member

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    Yeah I have had to sift through a lot of false information from online sources. I started running experiments of my own to verify everything.

    Unfortunately the catalyst skill items like berserker catalyst and diamond catalyst are only obtainable once per game via quests.

    You can get the same effects from items or skills like Emperor mode, but they take a turn to activate in battle.
     
  7. Nekko

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    I've gotten catalyst items multiple times from quests. Same with other skill items like Critical First Attack. They're only C level quests, after all.
     
  8. DOGMADOGMA

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    Yes, you are talking about the Archdemon of pride quests, which is what I had mentioned on my previous post. These quests are Archdemon of Envy, Archdemon of Wrath, Archdemon of Sloth and finally Archdemon of Lust, which give the following rewards upon completion: Berserk Catalyst, Diamond Catalyst, Tachyon Catalyst, Eggon Catalyst and finally Critical First Hit (in that order). Unless you are replaying the game or cheating (memory editing using hex editor), there is no way to get these items multiple times in the game. I thought there was a grinding method through 100 level Lava stage but I did not see it beside those elemental boost/resistance rewards and recovery x1.5. I have finished this game 3 times (all the quests are completed, including the secret one) and started again for the 4th time and I did not see the catalysts items more than once. Unless you show me proof of your claim with clear and concise pictorial or video proof, without cheating, I am calling your post a big pile of crap!!! Seriously, I wish I had found this thread earlier so that I could have put a stop (with severe insults) to such bullshit posts. People either spout nonsense, cheat or dick measure their accomplishments while sharing wrong information with everyone in games like these. What a shame!!

    Thank you so much. You know what you are talking about! I appreciate the accurate information on this. I tried to send you a PM but for some reason I couldn't but just writing to say I got your message and I found it thoroughly helpful. Thanks! :)
     
  9. anthony78

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    Really wish this had iCloud. Have hours and hours of progress on my iPad but want to have it on my iPhone.
     
  10. Nekko

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    Sheesh, my bad. It's just that it's been a while since I've played, and my memory isn't all there regarding this game. Believe me, I've beaten this game before. Why don't you compile a new FAQ for the game or something, if you are so confident in your knowledge. I've gotten most of my info from the current FAQ created by the numerous skilled members of this thread back when this game was a big deal on this site.
     
  11. McKay

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    #2311 McKay, May 15, 2017
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    AA max boost, floodgate mechanics

    Hey there!

    Registered just to ask about aa and floodgate mechanics. Havent found it on forum yet.

    Does floodgate works during AA or physical booster is the only thing that increses AA dmg?

    I just want to make the biggest AA dmg dealer and if floodgate doesnt worj than Nobel with his 405 atk and phs. booster best option.

    Also i wonder weather Xuanzhang with 500 atk AA dmg bigger than Nobel with 405 but with phs. booster.

    But if floodgate works than john doe or hippolyta with affinity and/or magic/phs. booster.

    Anyone tested?

    Also are crits possible during AA?:confused:
    Do crits work with floodgate or it counts like magical atk and no crits than?

    2.

    I also want to make gene with Last Stand and Blue moon brave))) and some mag./phs. Blocks from partners on top)

    Wonder which gene with x2 woud be the best for that trick.

    Edit. Looks like ishtar with blue moon grave and phs. Boost/affinity attribute would be nice choice.

    Again question about floodgate mechanics, does it work on counter attacks?

    Any ideas what fusion route can lead to such a result?))
     
  12. Hambo12

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    can't believe i just realized the main characters voice actor is also kirito from sword art and soma from food wars lol
     
  13. L.Lawliet

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    Yup! And there's a LOT of other famous VAs in this game. I think we had a list waaaay back in this thread early on. SQE did a great job with this game. I hope it gets a premium CR4 sequel. But it scares me when I see all the F2P games SQE churns out every year.
     
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    I agree. And I'm even tempted to import the Japanese PS Vita version even though I wouldn't be able to download CR1 or CR2. Just to have CR3 for whenever it gets removed from the App Store. I'd love a CR4, but I'd settle for English ports of all of them on PS Vita or PS4.
     
  15. scythe000

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    Theia's Secret 3?

    I completed Theia's secret 1 and 2.. but 3 is not showing up. Anyone know how to get that quest to appear? it's driving me nuts. I've been doing side quests and shuffling for a week, and it hasn't appeared. Am I missing something?
     
  16. Tony_lsc2

    Tony_lsc2 New Member

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    Need help!

    I get the snowdrop gift from winterborough for the bleeding heart quest but i use it for combining to get gene. Now i'm stuck because i lack this item for the bleeding quest and the flower is not appear anymore. Any suggestion please?
     
  17. Zedek

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    Snowdrop should appear at Winterborough daily unless you did the Ohnz trick which recorded the last known date of the gameplay when so saved. If so, go ahead of the last date you did the coin trick.
     
  18. Zedek

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    #2318 Zedek, Jul 26, 2017
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    I think you need to have Darts Tools on you. If you used it to craft a gene then use Ohnz or Gold Keys from Edge of the World Golden Chests to recollect it.
     
  19. Zedek

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    #2319 Zedek, Jul 26, 2017
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    Interesting mechanic theories. I'm a fan of Floodgate skills, thought and tested some of these stuffs.
    I found the most effective group of cards that works best with floodgate.
    Kenshin for Fire,
    Masamune for Ice,
    Hippolyta>Spartacus for Earth,
    Wagner>Ishtar>Lincoln for Bolt,
    Shizuka Gozen>Xuanzang>Lugh>Isseult for Light,
    John Doe>Tutankhamun for Dark

    Kenshin, Masamune, Spartacus, Wagner, Ishtar could learn Floodgate naturally others you need to Fusion inherit or use the Floodgate Skill item (once per gameplay) for the gene to get them. You might notice my recommendations are not the highest Atk stat genes out there. Its because you should value other skills the gene has that is also considered in conjunction with Floodgate attacks. Most of these genes have Physical Booster which increased dmg you dealt with physical atks therefore Floodgate atks deals more.
    Critical x2 is way too good to pass for Floodgate attacking. It doubles the increased dmg you deal with dmg due to element advantage. Infuse it with Critical First Strike and you always deal ridiculously high Floodgate Atk Damage at start. Autocounter is another good passive skill for floodgate attackers tho be careful for mobs that heals on same element attacks. Elemental Booster passive skills also increases floodgate attacks by 20%. Attribute Affection, In the Pink, Intuit, Berserk Catalyst, Eggon Catalyst, Critical Booster(only increase the chance to hit a crit) are some skills you should consider too.
    Also the bonus of your weapon also further increases the capability of your Floodgate Attacks.
    Yes, Floodgate works on counter attacks.
    Floodgate doesn't work on AA.
    Floodgate Attacks are physical. Crit works on them too also physical.

    When crafting the best Floodgate gene for you. You need to consider their nature and strength for their full potential.
    Like for example you want a Xuanzang Floodgate Gene. Naturally the gene can't learn Floodgate skill in any level or rarity, the only possible way to get it is using the Floodgate item which only come once per gameplay (quest reward). Its in your discretion to use the item for a Xuanzang Floodgate Gene sacrificing the only Floodgate item you could get. Or you could go for Shizuka Gozen Floodgate Gene, She may not have great ATK stat but you could have combination which could give her Floodgate and Physical Booster inherit skills without having to use the Floodgate item and maybe add in Light Booster skill into Shizuka's skillset further increasing ur damage output.

    So when choosing inherit skills for floodgate attacker I would value more
    Physical Booster > Critical x2 > Crit 1st Strike > Catalyst > Autocounter > Attribute Affection > Elemental Boost

    Also consider to have a decent ATK Stat Gene for it, Light Genes aren't natually high with it but my suggestions are quite decent. You can increase it with Power Seeds tho.

    2. Crits and floodgate doesnt work in AA,depending on character the AA would be considered Physical(Male) or Magical(Female). What you could do is increase the Weight of the weapons you use. To get the best dmg out of AA use 3 high ATK powered physical based Genes with Magnum Fang skill. Physical Booster seems to be the only passive that stacks up on AA if the AA user is male, Magic Booster for Female. What I use for my AA Lineup is MC with Ripper(4hits)+60 weight [John Doe, Phy Boost MFang], Leary with Fair Lady Accelerator(6hits end game ohnz shop)+40 Break [Wagner, PBoost,MBoost, inherit Bersk Cat Eggon Cat], Al with Alter La Traviata (2hits)/Dangozashi(4hits)+60 Weight [John Doe, Phy Boost MFang]. All with 40 Pow Seeds and using Magnum Fangs, hopefully Leary will hit a crit during her MFang and increasing the gauge to max therefore all next hits from MC and Al will go into combo further increasing the dmg since they have heavy weapons. This lineup will surely give the most effective AA, even when you used Mass Attack but moreso when MC or Al hits their ultimate AA after 3 MFangs.

    Tested Xuanzang, Nobel and Gilgamesh. Out of the three, Nobel does the highest AA dmg. I'll prolly modify my AA lineup to Al Nobel+40Atk with MFang. Leary its best to have her Wagner with Magic Booster passive.
     
  20. Roark

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    kinda basic question, but now that I've beaten story mode and built a few floodgate users like wagner and kenshin, I'm wondering what to use for physical resistant ones. Specifically the one in Theia's Secret 1. At 130 it just shows blocked blocked blocked for physical attacks or magnum fang, and I tried 3 Kishibojins and it blocked the advanced cremation spell even though the monster is dark based.

    Any suggestions?

    2nd question, how do I time triple concentrate Advanced cremation with MC Leary and Al so that they cast together?
     

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