Seems like it may be fun, but after reading the "tutorial", I've determined that I have no idea what the hell is going on. I tried to play a single player game anyway and was completely lost. Just a suggestion, when you call something a "tutorial", you set up an expectation of some sort of interactive explanation of the game, not a vague description. I'm sorry, but first impressions matter, and I think the explanation of the game is pretty poor. I figured out Ascention and Kard Kombat without any problems.
Similar experience here. The section should really be titled "Rules" or something; definitely not "Tutorial." Whatever it is, it is entirely overwhelming for someone coming to this with a clean slate. I tried to just jump into a single player game but no clue what's going on. An actual tutorial is sorely needed.
Agreed. All this hype during the beta phase ... and no one thought to include an actual tutorial? Are they being serious with this? Why do some developers think we magically know how to play their games?
Okay, it's downloading, impressions later. About the tutorial. The complains are just, hands down, it's not the best tutorial out there. However, you're depriving yourselves of a REALLY good game if you don't try at least a couple of matches first. Seriously, just try it. It works after some tries, I mean it happened to me. EDIT: Oh and for those who don't want to stuck with a bad initial choice, just try the offline mode. You can experiment with all four cabals there. By the way, the app works just fine. Finally I can see and READ everything on the retina.
Sticks. That's disappointing to hear about the tutorial. I consider myself, well, not stupid... But I'm not in the market to be confused or irritated. Life is too short. If a tutorial is added, I will jump back in. For now, sigh.
Cabals: Magic & Battle Cards Kyy Games NEW CARDS AVAILABLE! Join this epic battle card game, played on a game board! Cabals is a free-to-play, strategy online… TouchArcade Rating: Free Buy Now Watch Media DetailsNEW CARDS AVAILABLE! Join this epic battle card game, played on a game board! Cabals is a free-to-play, strategy online multiplayer trading card game (TCG) and collectible card game (CCG), that combines card game, board game, and strategy mechanics! "One of the best designed card games available for iOS" (Zac Phoenix, Trading Card Games) "Urban Fantasy Card Game with Victorian Influences? Yes, Please! (Cabals)" (Cassandra Khaw, Touch Arcade) "The future of gaming through its cross-platform design" (Bradley Cummings, Board Game Geek) ENTER THE WORLD OF CABALS Learn the basics through a simple step by step tutorial, then develop your tactics in Single Player battles against AI. Level up and complete quests to earn rewards and collect new rare cards. REVEL IN RICH ARTWORK AND FOLKLORE The world features a rich, immersive lore, drawing heavily from real mystical and esoteric traditions. Set in Europe, the game will take you into the more shadowy recesses leading up to the 2nd World War. A power struggle rages between cabals—secret, eldritch societies—committed to exploiting forbidden magic to their own ends. The fate of humankind hangs upon the war! JOIN A CABAL AND BATTLE FOR POWER Danann Covenant, Bearclaw Brotherhood, Vril Society, Order of Zahir, Dragon Enclave and Sons of Osiris are recruiting! You can choose from 6 cabals and 15 heroes with different characteristics to suit your style. BUILD YOUR DECK Choose from pre-constructed starter decks or customize your own deck with the Deck Editor. Combine the power of two cabals by creating an alliance deck. Collect influence and use it to buy boosters with guaranteed rare cards! COMPETE ONLINE AGAINST REAL OPPONENTS After you have mastered your strategy take your forces online to learn what the real War of Cabals is like. It may not be easy so, regroup, keep your enemies close on your Friend List and challenge them when online. Chat with your friends to discuss tactics, share video replays and learn from watching others’ Everyplay replays. Climb the leaderboards and attend exciting community tournaments. Choose your side today! Languages supported: - Deutsch - English - Español - Français - Italiano - 简体中文 (Simplified Chinese) Give feedback and join the Cabals Community: http://cabalsgame.com/forum/ https://www.facebook.com/Cabalsgame https://twitter.com/cabalsgame Cabals: Magic & Battle Cards ©2017 Kyy Games ltd. ** Please note that while the app is free, it contains paid content for real money that can be purchased upon users' wish to enhance their gaming experience. Refer to device support for how to control in app purchases ** Information Seller:Kyy Games Genre:Card, Role Playing Release:Nov 21, 2011 Updated:Feb 06, 2018 Version:5.0.0 Size:314.2 MB TouchArcade Rating: User Rating: (4) Your Rating:unrated Compatibility:HD Universal Talbs Well-Known Member May 1, 2011 2,616 377 83 #129 Talbs, Nov 29, 2011 All this talk of a tutorial was mentioned way back. Probably 3-4 months ago in the "upcoming" thread. The devs responded to. I think there's a post by me there on it. They more or less referred me to their website where I think there's a half page how to play section but still I was scratching my head. So it's not like this hasn't been raised. Have downloaded but can't play yet but I have a suspicion it's the same "tutorial" from the beta which is the same one on their website. As stated 3 months ago, tutorial needs to be better. Good game in beta regardless so overall thumbs up for devs. LawLessLove Well-Known Member Nov 18, 2010 500 0 0 #130 LawLessLove, Nov 29, 2011 I like how short the tutorial is, it could be a little more in-depth though. It would be worst, if you made it around 20 paragraphs like Necronomicon. AlteaineDranix Well-Known Member Nov 8, 2011 140 0 0 #131 AlteaineDranix, Nov 29, 2011 Last edited: Nov 29, 2011 This really does need a better tutorial; you need to play a match or two to see how things fit together. I had to figure out that the pointy crystal thing signified your resources and that the castle tower represented your dominion points. How you accumulate resources and dominion points, how to deploy units/use abilities and the meaning of the different symbols on the board and cards are other things that need clarification. The learning curve isn't that steep and I'm accustomed to figuring out game interfaces, but I don't think that a game's UI and rules should be puzzles to solve. Lacking tutorial aside, this just went into my folder of games that's forever going to be on my iPad. I'm really looking forward to the updates that allow for disposal of excess cards and earning Influence through playing, however. EDIT: I just looked at the main website's tutorial and that actually covers a good bit of what I said above. Why exactly is the website tutorial not in the game. jonnycache Well-Known Member May 14, 2011 154 0 0 #132 jonnycache, Nov 29, 2011 iPad version is tops. The single one thing that new players seem to get wrong protect your Stronghold you lose instantly if it is taken. CroRock Well-Known Member Feb 20, 2011 247 0 16 Croatia #133 CroRock, Nov 29, 2011 Nooo... I just left my wi-fi zone before knowing its out now!! Now I'm 8 hours away from playing this on my iPhone Espekayen Well-Known Member Mar 30, 2011 451 0 0 Hertfordshire, UK #134 Espekayen, Nov 29, 2011 I must echo previous comments that the "tutorial" is appalling. It is not a tutorial and is, at best, a cursory summary of the rules. Many developers are guilty of this and it appears Kyy are no different. Apparently their website contains a more extensive tutorial; why wasn't this added to the iOS release? A complex game like Cabals needs a thorough explanation of the rules and, preferably, an interactive tutorial that potential players actually find useful. I hate it when the rules to a game end up as just another puzzle to solve; it shouldn't be that way and is unnecessary. A highly anticipated game's release has, in my eyes, been marred by a neglected "tutorial". Agas Well-Known Member Jan 28, 2011 2,347 0 0 #135 Agas, Nov 29, 2011 Definitely needs tutorial. Try the first game and I'm like doing trial and error. Quitting is considered a lost and that's bad for the statistic. There's should be a guide on how to play with the real game and not just explanation on how to do it. Trev1 Well-Known Member Jan 23, 2011 946 0 0 Chef NYC/CT...USA #136 Trev1, Nov 29, 2011 i cant agree more...ill rate 5 stars on the AS when i see a better ingame tut...this is a big pet peeve of mine....I usually never leave neg feefback...but for a card game as such it is mandatory....mainly for me to really learn every aspect of the game , i like to have one in my hand close by to refer to.... Fimb Well-Known Member May 12, 2010 364 0 0 #137 Fimb, Nov 29, 2011 I said it several times in this thread (soz), but saying it again. I agree with the negative sentiments about the tutorial, but it's not SO bad. It helps if you play some matches offline, try out every cabals, choosing your favourite, then build a deck around it. After a couple of matches against the AI, you'll know everything needed for a ranked match. You'll be much more confident. ressique Well-Known Member May 15, 2011 67 0 0 #138 ressique, Nov 29, 2011 Lovely game It has so much potential. I really hope the dev. will keep up their work to enhance it further; e.g. more maps, more cards etc. I think it was a wise decision that it is possible to play with different devices within different systems, because a lot of similar games have the deadly problem of a lack of players and this procedure could be the right answer. Nice work, I will support the game Espekayen Well-Known Member Mar 30, 2011 451 0 0 Hertfordshire, UK #139 Espekayen, Nov 29, 2011 I don't understand this attitude that developers have where they assume people will magically know how to play their games. The "tutorial" feels like it was added on at the last minute as an afterthought. Granted, not all games need an extensive tutorial, but complex card games like Cabal most definitely do. This is very disappointing. I now predict players will post a myriad of questions in this thread regarding the rules, leaving other players and the developer to answer them as best they can. This is a very sloppy way of dealing with FAQs when it should all be in the tutorial in the first place. Unfortunately, Kyy are not alone in this respect; many game threads in this forum have become just an extension of the game's rules, with confused players asking for clarification. Gabrien Well-Known Member Nov 24, 2009 5,148 0 36 #140 Gabrien, Nov 29, 2011 The problem is with how much is expected of the player to put in before they begin to receive any sort of gratification. Gratification with games like this comes from understanding the rules and forming successful strategies. How much is a totally new player expected to put into the game before any sort of pay off? Way too much I think. I've now played through four offline games, lost all four, and am still not beginning to even approach full understanding of why I lost, much less any sort of forming of winning strategies or tactics. That's roughly an hour I've put into this game without any sort of pay off. Why have I even put in this much? Well, the interface looks polished, the art is appealing, the sounds are tastefully appropriate, etc. At face value the game really comes across as a class effort and I have put in that time because I suspect it may be worth it. But face value will only get you so far with limited time and literally hundreds of other games jockeying for it. I closed the app after my last attempt feeling no wiser than I did after the attempt before. I've no desire at the moment to go for attempt number five. Perhaps I'll feel different later, perhaps I won't and will just delete it. I'm not sure whom the developers were aiming this game at, but if the average, un-pre-educated gamer was anywhere near the top of their list, they'd better kick it up a few gears to have much hope of capturing their attention. (You must log in or sign up to post here.) 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All this talk of a tutorial was mentioned way back. Probably 3-4 months ago in the "upcoming" thread. The devs responded to. I think there's a post by me there on it. They more or less referred me to their website where I think there's a half page how to play section but still I was scratching my head. So it's not like this hasn't been raised. Have downloaded but can't play yet but I have a suspicion it's the same "tutorial" from the beta which is the same one on their website. As stated 3 months ago, tutorial needs to be better. Good game in beta regardless so overall thumbs up for devs.
I like how short the tutorial is, it could be a little more in-depth though. It would be worst, if you made it around 20 paragraphs like Necronomicon.
This really does need a better tutorial; you need to play a match or two to see how things fit together. I had to figure out that the pointy crystal thing signified your resources and that the castle tower represented your dominion points. How you accumulate resources and dominion points, how to deploy units/use abilities and the meaning of the different symbols on the board and cards are other things that need clarification. The learning curve isn't that steep and I'm accustomed to figuring out game interfaces, but I don't think that a game's UI and rules should be puzzles to solve. Lacking tutorial aside, this just went into my folder of games that's forever going to be on my iPad. I'm really looking forward to the updates that allow for disposal of excess cards and earning Influence through playing, however. EDIT: I just looked at the main website's tutorial and that actually covers a good bit of what I said above. Why exactly is the website tutorial not in the game.
iPad version is tops. The single one thing that new players seem to get wrong protect your Stronghold you lose instantly if it is taken.
Nooo... I just left my wi-fi zone before knowing its out now!! Now I'm 8 hours away from playing this on my iPhone
I must echo previous comments that the "tutorial" is appalling. It is not a tutorial and is, at best, a cursory summary of the rules. Many developers are guilty of this and it appears Kyy are no different. Apparently their website contains a more extensive tutorial; why wasn't this added to the iOS release? A complex game like Cabals needs a thorough explanation of the rules and, preferably, an interactive tutorial that potential players actually find useful. I hate it when the rules to a game end up as just another puzzle to solve; it shouldn't be that way and is unnecessary. A highly anticipated game's release has, in my eyes, been marred by a neglected "tutorial".
Definitely needs tutorial. Try the first game and I'm like doing trial and error. Quitting is considered a lost and that's bad for the statistic. There's should be a guide on how to play with the real game and not just explanation on how to do it.
i cant agree more...ill rate 5 stars on the AS when i see a better ingame tut...this is a big pet peeve of mine....I usually never leave neg feefback...but for a card game as such it is mandatory....mainly for me to really learn every aspect of the game , i like to have one in my hand close by to refer to....
I said it several times in this thread (soz), but saying it again. I agree with the negative sentiments about the tutorial, but it's not SO bad. It helps if you play some matches offline, try out every cabals, choosing your favourite, then build a deck around it. After a couple of matches against the AI, you'll know everything needed for a ranked match. You'll be much more confident.
Lovely game It has so much potential. I really hope the dev. will keep up their work to enhance it further; e.g. more maps, more cards etc. I think it was a wise decision that it is possible to play with different devices within different systems, because a lot of similar games have the deadly problem of a lack of players and this procedure could be the right answer. Nice work, I will support the game
I don't understand this attitude that developers have where they assume people will magically know how to play their games. The "tutorial" feels like it was added on at the last minute as an afterthought. Granted, not all games need an extensive tutorial, but complex card games like Cabal most definitely do. This is very disappointing. I now predict players will post a myriad of questions in this thread regarding the rules, leaving other players and the developer to answer them as best they can. This is a very sloppy way of dealing with FAQs when it should all be in the tutorial in the first place. Unfortunately, Kyy are not alone in this respect; many game threads in this forum have become just an extension of the game's rules, with confused players asking for clarification.
The problem is with how much is expected of the player to put in before they begin to receive any sort of gratification. Gratification with games like this comes from understanding the rules and forming successful strategies. How much is a totally new player expected to put into the game before any sort of pay off? Way too much I think. I've now played through four offline games, lost all four, and am still not beginning to even approach full understanding of why I lost, much less any sort of forming of winning strategies or tactics. That's roughly an hour I've put into this game without any sort of pay off. Why have I even put in this much? Well, the interface looks polished, the art is appealing, the sounds are tastefully appropriate, etc. At face value the game really comes across as a class effort and I have put in that time because I suspect it may be worth it. But face value will only get you so far with limited time and literally hundreds of other games jockeying for it. I closed the app after my last attempt feeling no wiser than I did after the attempt before. I've no desire at the moment to go for attempt number five. Perhaps I'll feel different later, perhaps I won't and will just delete it. I'm not sure whom the developers were aiming this game at, but if the average, un-pre-educated gamer was anywhere near the top of their list, they'd better kick it up a few gears to have much hope of capturing their attention.
