Universal Battleplans (by C4M)

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  1. ste86uk

    ste86uk Well-Known Member

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    #21 ste86uk, Sep 9, 2015
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    I've been playing and don't consider it anything like tactile wars and I know they are turtles but I thought people that haven't played wouldn't know what I was talking about : )

    As for the battles I didn't mean about the mines that's fine, I just meant where my camp with my main mine doesn't get attacked which is good. Also with the battery I'll have to see what I've got to compare.

    When do extra troop types unlock? Just trying to get two level 5 heroes to get the adept at the minute but battle times possibly need some work. Sometimes if I'm lucky I can do 2/3 battles in a row with reduced troops and with the quick retraining times I can come back 5/10 minutes later and do more but who can log in every 5 minutes? Not that I want the timers to take longer though! Although I suppose it'll help a bit when I have more troop types.

    I can hardly ever beat blue bases as even when evenly teamed my guys always seem to die first, the one I battled just had a witch with a lot of cavalry too.
     
  2. Ploulack

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    Smart thinking with the turtles!

    Ah, got it. no, don't worry, main base will never be raided. It's just an army management view :)

    Yes, right after the adept (though we're going to change this, and unlock the cavalry before the adept).

    Our goal is to have 3 battles per session, so your feedback is useful: you're not really getting that. I'll have to monitor that stat more carefully.
    What's your in game nick so that I can check your camps levels? As you know, this influences a lot the number of attacks you can chain...it pays to invest your stamina (camps).
     
  3. ste86uk

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    My in game name is Dagon and 3 would be nice but it's often that I have no chance to win the league so don't bother with mines and attack purples on the map, but those run out easily and I have to attack blues which more often than not are much stronger than me. Most of the time it is 1-2 battles if lucky then closing down to do something else, sometimes I get a chance to keep opening every now and then but most of the time I don't.

    I tried to invest in the mine first as the income is important to upgrade everything but the price shot up to 13.5k which is a huge amount for me at the moment.
     
  4. Ploulack

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    I've seen the problem: you seem not to have upgraded at all your troop camps! Which means you are not getting all the troops you should in your squads. No wonder you feel everyone is stronger than you and that you can't chain many attacks.
     
  5. ste86uk

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    My peasant camp is level 6 and my archer camp is level 4?
     
  6. Ploulack

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    #26 Ploulack, Sep 10, 2015
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    Sorry, was looking at the wrong place...so, your camps are properly upgraded and you can't chain 3 attacks.


    Ok, I checked. I don't know if that can reassure you, but the leaders in your War, Moax, Pedro, Slava all have heroes at similar or lower levels than your heroes. You can definitely beat them, don't be afraid :)
     
  7. ste86uk

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    So I thought people couldn't raid me for gold? Nearly had 13k for my mine upgrade and got raided twice for 1.6k each time! Also the horseman level is impossible...some things seem built for you to fail no matter what, I can do the level because I have the requirement but obviously that requirement isn't high enough as I've tried 4/5 times now.
     
  8. ste86uk

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    Loving the adept on attacks but not so much on defence, unlocked horsemen now but as I can't compare yet are the choice of two horsemen better than 5/6 peasants or 4 archers?

    One thing I'd like is when you start a battle and it only takes 3 of my 4 turtles can we have the ability to change the units? Like it picks my priestess when I'd rather have the adept. You get prep time so if in that time you could click the turtles to change hero and troops like in your base. It would also add more tactics to attacking, unless you feel it woul make it unfair although if so just the ability to change the hero and not troops would be great.
     
  9. ste86uk

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    Nobody else playing yet?
     
  10. Ploulack

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    It's still canada app stores only...
     
  11. ste86uk

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    I know but there's more than a few people around here with CA accounts so just asking.
     
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    Hehe not to sure I haven't played the game yet unfortunately! I'm located in the U.S. I was going off screenshots. It's cool that you guys know eachother. The game looks beautiful though! Can't wait for release.
     
  13. ste86uk

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    Although the charachters and heroes in reality look so simplistic the game still really does look great and is very sharp even on my air2.

    I'm really enjoying it a lot more now I've gotten better and developed my own tactics I win much much more than I lose unless I'm well outmatched.

    It has a lot to the tactics based on your hero and troop choices and what you do with them and their abilities in battle, even choosing what to upgrade next is important and when you want to get promoted from your current league. As I often won't capture a mine and then I can't be attack so I can farm other players worry free. When you want to get promoted and battle for mines be ready to spend your gold as quickly as possible.

    Good defence is very important too as I've fought a few players recently that you can completely bypass without losing a single troop because of their setup. The timers and waypoints on the way to those locations are extremely important. Even if say you wanted to keep your monk on one location all match at the very least you should set a flag on another capture point and have him travel there right near the end of the match.

    I'm in the silver league at the minute but just gaining gold for upgrades and when the season starts over in a few days I'll go for promotion even though I could still get it now I do like to get upgrades ahead of others so I don't end up being a small fish in a big pond.

    Finally the game is built for short sessions you can sometimes if extremely lucky get 2/3 attacks in which doesn't take long but then troops are ready to go again within 5 minutes usually, so although you can't stay on it constantly you can keep coming back after short intervals. I just play Furdemption, puzzle craft 2 and HitmanGo inbetween
     
  14. ste86uk

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    Just to add a tip, it's well worth only going for 2 capture points and holding those rather than wiping out the enemy team. Often you can capture 2 with minimal losses if you wait for troop movements which most people do very early which enables you to attack again quicker. A third capture gets you a little more gold but in my eyes isn't worth the troop loss, although sometimes you can get that third one without too much trouble too.

    My favourites are the monk and the adept, I can't wait to try the necromancer though when he's added.
     
  15. Ploulack

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    Ste86uk,thank you for your impressions. At this stage in your experience what are the annoying issues (apart from bugs) with the game?
     
  16. ste86uk

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    #36 ste86uk, Sep 15, 2015
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    I'm not fond of the cost for battles as I make very little off most players anyway most people have as I said only 3-500 and I pay 100 to battle them. NPC battles can often feel unfair or just tough so I generally go for players instead.

    Next as we spoke about already now, beach rushing makes games boring when someone just piles their troops as close to the beach as possible as it takes away any tactics and choices really but thank you for your tip regarding this.

    Also the time for troops, it doesn't take long at all to fill my turtles again after a battle or two but realistically I'm worried as to who can really log in every 5 minutes to do another battle? I know it can be left as long as you like but obviously players that log in more often can progress quicker in leagues and earn more money. Just adding too that the Mage seems a weak choice, technically useful in some situations but I feel he's the weakest hero. Unless he can teleport whilst in combat? Even still though I wouldn't pick him and mages are my favourite.

    Not much really annoys me with the game I just wish I could play more, I see huge potential in the game in both heroes and units and in maps and tactics. There's so much that could be done with everything but I guess it depends how well the game does. My final small gripe is that sometimes when you have massed units it can be hard to select the squad you mean to. For example I have my monk up front and priestess and adept at the back with archers, when my monks team is losing or shrunk from a previous battle I'll send them in so I can blow them up with a metor which is my favourite ability...also one I hate most in defence! But as you often need to select quickly and units are clumped like with the adept and priestess it can be hard to select the right one. But it's not too difficult and I don't really know what you could do about that anyway.

    Edit: for instance after posting I just literally lost a battle because of this, they had 4 squads massed so I sent a squad in to blow them up but ended up selecting my priestess twice instead and by the time I selected the adept my squad was dead.

    Also my battle cost just increased to 200? So some battles earn me 150 gold or less but if I lost 1 in 2 I'd be losing money! The cost put me off battling npc's due to difficulty and make most players barely worth it
     
  17. ste86uk

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    #37 ste86uk, Sep 16, 2015
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    I have to reiterate along with my above post my battle cost now is 200g for some reason and I'm only getting battles for the same player over and over all day even though multiple people own mines. Which sucks as this person is good at defence and generally beach storms making losses more frequent than wins. Which means with the terrible battle cost and reward I'm barely earning anything and likely better off not bothering playing and just logging in, in a day to collect money. Besides the target I keep getting doesn't even own a mine
     
  18. Ploulack

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    Thx for the feedback.
    The next update includes a revamp reward that tries to improve on those issues. This update includes special rewards when capturing all Crystals. Also, better rewards for winning defenses. And Jade points on Raid victories. All this should improve the battles worthiness.
     
  19. ste86uk

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    That all sounds good and a defence bonus would be welcome as at the moment you get nothing for defending really other than not losing the mine and your income. Winning gold or something for a defence and being given any gold from your captured mine when it's taken from you would go some way to helping the issue of it often being risky to capture them and opening yourself up to raids.

    Interested to see what special rewards there are for 3 captures too, the gold bonus is worth it on rich players but there are very few of those.
     
  20. Ploulack

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    Hey, you've just raided me! I'm playing as Plou :)
     

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