Universal BADLAND - (by Frogmind)

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  1. Matt33

    Matt33 Well-Known Member

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    Haha, some of the best saves come at 3 AM in the morning (although my job permits me to have such a schedule).

    Damn, I thought that I often get unlucky with frequent bad beats when trying to improve on levels, causing me to put in more time than necessary, but you must have it even more.
     
  2. ogster

    ogster Well-Known Member

    when it's already late, i often play to get my last 2 missions.. "hit nothing" on squares and "survive with one try" on final frontier and the hidden achievement on flaw. alas, they still elude me!

    but true, some of the better level runs happen late in the day.

    i have clumsy fingers and often get beat real badly. and i choke a lot too when i'm about to get a new high-score.
     
  3. grandmort

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    Lol, "Hit Nothing" took me a while but I finally got it. Now "Survive with one try" on FINAL FRONTIER was a real pain, and took me a long, LOOOONG while... At times I always I had the path down and would often make it to the end, only to screw it up when it all goes dark and you have to pass through the last saws with your single clone. Other times I would screw up places where I never screw up on near-perfect runs. It was always one or the other, like I was doomed.

    FLAW, let's not even talk about that one, it's the only one I have missing (well technically I still have to complete multi-player) and I just can't do it. I always loose the clone with the chain in the fast rotating passage, it's either down or squished, but never in the upper passage where I need it to be to proceed.

    Yes, hence I'm going to go play now!

    Lol, whatever you are kidding or not I can relate. So true, I get so nervous when I'm about to do something grand, and I usually screw it up because of that.
     
  4. ZachWheat13

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    Aahhh!!! One try on FINAL FRONTIER!!!! My only mission left on DAY 1. I'm glad I'm not the only one that's having trouble with that one. I know how to do each piece but I can never seem to put it all together.
     
  5. grandmort

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    Okay, I'm looking into "moving" the community to GameFAQs, meaning developing interests around various threads with engaged players that haven't already "move on" to the next thing. (It's frustrating these days to witness how people tire of a product barely a few months after it's been out. BADLAND was release in April 2013, only 6 months ago!)

    I believe there is a core group (Matt33, ogster, ZachWheat13 and myself at the moment) that is going to stick around for a while longer (at least another 6 month?), especially because the epic conclusion of DAY II - NIGHT is going to come out soon (and who knows, the devs might proceed with DAY III next year, that would be fantastic!).

    Here are the possible threads I'd like to start with on GameFAQs, I need support and ideas (and we can of course keep things going here on TouchArcade as well):

    - You know you've been playing too much BADLAND whenÂ… (Fun discussion)

    - Help Wanted - Compiling a BADLAND Walkthrough (This one could be a work in progress, co-authored by the 4 people mentioned above)

    - Link to "SAVE THE CLONES!" Spreadsheet (For pure data)

    - Achievements - How to get Them (Study)

    - The Epic Sound of BADLAND (Discussion)

    - The Story in BADLAND - What is going on (Discussion)

    - Power-ups (Study)

    - Challenges (Study)

    - Your Favorite Level(s) (Discussion)

    - Hardest Level - Casual Play (Discussion)

    - Hardest Level - Advance Play (Discussion)

    - The Four 80's (Discussion around the 4 levels where saving 80+ clones is possible)

    - Casual Play (Discussion for most casual players)

    - Advance Play (Discussion of advanced techniques; this is where ZachWheat13 and myself are at the moment)

    - Pro (Ace) Play (Discussion; this is where Matt33 and ogster are - the GODS of BADLAND! - though information given might be sparse here)

    - What missing game feature(s) would you want to see the devs implement? (Discussion; for example, personally I'd love a time-based Leaderboards feature; how fast can one go through each level in BADLAND)

    - Help Wanted - Prepping an Interview for the Developers (Now, this is a bit of a secret wish of mine. I'd like to approach the BADLAND devs and interview them. I've done this in the past - with the voice engineers behind Ace Combat 4 on PS2 - and I need this to be well-prepared, well-thought of, basically very pro. I will welcome all suggestions and ideas but please run them through me first. Once we are happy with our interview questions, we'll submit them on here and GameFAQs, on their BADLAND Facebook page and directly via their contact info page on their BADLAND game site.)

    - Clone saving - More is possibleÂ… (Matt33 and ogster, if you are so willing, I'd like to also have a thread where you could at least confirm with us where "More is possible," meaning we need to be able to eliminate first the levels where the Clone Saving is maxed-out - SPIRAL, SIZE MATTERS, etc. - then we need to take a serious look at where improvements are possible on other levels and to what degree. It will make the work load a bit lighter on many levels for advance players; you don't have to reveal what your counts are, just if improvements are possible. Example: we can all agree that 51 on TIME should "technically" be possible, same with CLONEBLOWER where, if lucky, once could "technically" pass through the fans with all 20 clones, same with UNSTABLE, etc, etc. This data needs to be available somewhere.)

    So, taking all the above into consideration, shall we?
    (You can PM me, you can criticize, I welcome feedback of any kind.)
     
  6. Gov

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    I still haven't played this game. Don't have time, will do one day!
     
  7. grandmort

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    Well, you take a break with playing: Dead Effect / Dead Trigger 2 / Draw Rider + / Haunted Night / House of the Dead / Indigo Lake / Kung Fu Quest / Pinball Arcade / Prisoner 84 / Tower of Evil / Vanished / ZDay / Zen Pinball /

    ...And give BADLAND a try, lol! One of the best indie game out there!.
     
  8. Gov

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    Yea, they're all in my iPhone, taking time with my games. Right now... Playing Gunner Z. I take 2 months per game... I have 50 games to play 'properly' not just a quick blast :)
     
  9. Athos

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    #449 Athos, Oct 27, 2013
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    The new multiplayer characters are adorable. I was thinking Badland toys (beanbags?) would be a cute craft project.


    @grandmort
    To make inroads at GameFAQs maybe you could make a .... FAQ? At the very least I think a secret chieve list would be appreciated. Also tips for beginners. A lot have been posted in this thread which is nice. I think some people get frustrated if they don't grasp that you often want to avoid power-ups.

    EDIT still re: grandmort
    I'm reading what you have above more carefully and a lot of material you propose there would work just as well (if not better) for an FAQ as it would for a thread topic. Especially if Matt33 and Ogster contribute clone count optimization strats.
     
  10. Matt33

    Matt33 Well-Known Member

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    #450 Matt33, Oct 28, 2013
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    For GameFAQS, It could be fun to have a thread where you can come up with specific, unproductive challenges within levels. For example, get the size increase power-up between the spin and speed power-ups on 'Revolver':
    (Don't bother looking, I blacked out my Record ;))
    [​IMG]
     
  11. grandmort

    grandmort Active Member

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    Agreed. Yes, we'll document the Secret Achievements. Also, as you pointed out, there a few good hints (from the devs mostly) throughout this thread (I finally went through almost all of it yesterday) so, yes indeed, we'll have hints and tips for casual players.

    I'm not sure how often you lurk here Athos, but feel free to contribute in any way, shape or form, the bigger the core community, the better we can document all sorts of things.

    Lol at blacking out your Record!
    While I agree about specific and unproductive challenges within levels I'm not sure what you mean on REVOLVER; you mean the reducer on the spinning wheel at the beginning? That's actually very easy but that's all I'm going to say.
     
  12. grandmort

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    Okay, sorry, I just looked at your picture, I DO NOT have an enlarger there in REVOLVER (!!!), so, after being confuse for about a minute I think I get it, you mean "get it there" as "have it land there," yes? Now we are talking.
     
  13. Matt33

    Matt33 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, get it to land there by means of proximity manipulation and help from the spinning wheel. Not sure how hard it is to replicate, but it's just an example.
     
  14. ogster

    ogster Well-Known Member

    whatever you need, grandmort, just ask. you know i'll try to help without giving too much away. but just thinking.. how do you get people to participate? with 7 million downloads, you'd think there be more interest in a community or forum. i've been active in other game forums and it's nice to see the top guys and discuss the game with them. although a lot of shady exchanges take place, the athmosphere makes for a very interesting and colorful venue for game enthusiasts.

    and i wouldn't go so far as calling me god in badland. that title is reserved for the likes of matt33. but thanks. can't say i didn't enjoy reading it.

    how about a clone counter in real time? next to a timer perhaps?
     
  15. grandmort

    grandmort Active Member

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    Yep, we'll see. This is a bit of an enigma for me, I have been a gamer for a long time and never seen a game so well received, awarded, downloaded, and yet no community around it anywhere (save for a bit of action here on these very forums).

    ...the likes of Matt33? Yeah, like... "ogster," lol

    Great idea!
     
  16. Montanx

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    Just felt the need to throw this out there...If there is someone out there who hasn't played or bought Badland yet, please, do yourself a favor and get it right now. The game is simply incredible and the definition of beautiful simplicity. I know screens and even video can be confusing when trying to see the gameplay, but it has a weight and feel to it that can only be realized when played.
     
  17. ogster

    ogster Well-Known Member

    amphion just came out of nowhere with a 2193! uh oh. don't get matt33 mad, please.
     
  18. grandmort

    grandmort Active Member

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    WHAT!!!!!!?????? :eek::eek::eek:
    A cheat?
     
  19. Matt33

    Matt33 Well-Known Member

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    A fake score is rare to see in this game, maybe because of watchful devs? But I still came to that conclusion due to their absence from the other 2 leaderboards and sudden appearance. Although, it could be the same glitch that sometimes bumps top scores off...but I don't think so.
     
  20. grandmort

    grandmort Active Member

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    But how can he appear suddenly out of nowhere?
    Yes, speaking of glitch I've noticed you and ogster get regularly kicked out of DAY I - Clone Saved, is that what you are talking about?

    Matt33, you are 2 clone away from 2,200 !!!!!
     

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