Universal Asphalt 8: Airborne - (by Gameloft)

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  1. ezgi hatun

    ezgi hatun Well-Known Member

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    Turbo: Running 7.1 on ipad mini, when i first updated i had severe framerate issues. It became unplayable with s class. Then it kind of settled after 10 or so times of racing. It's not a hundred percent okay but it's alright. I still haven't rebooted, but a reboot should resolve the problem entirely.
     
  2. Rip73

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    Okay, I get both your points (to the replyers of my post, forgot to use quote button, still tired), I do. I could even predict those points as being the ones that would be brought up. That doesn't diminish them, it just means they have validity.

    But I don't see any challenge related to going in and easily winning 40 or 50 races a day.
    I mean is that a challenge or just pounding the opposition to the ground from a dominant position?
    Would there not be more challenge and satisfaction in defeating a superior car? Would it not require more skill? Would that not be the whole point of achieving a higher leaderboard position, a demonstration of skill?

    Based on the prerequisite that the differential between cars needs to be reduced from a 599xx racing against a Lykan of course. That's just bringing a knife to a gunfight and will only end in the obviously predictable way.

    Look, ultimately I don't think we are going to agree at this point on this one, well, beyond the car differential part, but once that differential is adjusted, I actually believe the system has the potential to certainly be better and more balancing.
    I may turn out to be wrong, I don't know, but I'm going to give it the time I mentioned before I decide for definite.

    Its worth noting as well that not everyone has the time or opportunity to race and easily win 40 or 50 times in day. I think this system may offer an opportunity to those that don't have that kind of time but do have the skill level.
     
  3. aussi3

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    What's up with the frame rate issues? I can barely play on my iPad 4 now before the update the frame rate was beautiful!!! Hope it goes back to smooth soon!
     
  4. Running Bird

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    #3364 Running Bird, Mar 21, 2014
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    You should try it sometime. It may turn out to be easy for you, but it isn't for me. Winning 50 races in a row is tough. You can't make mistakes, and even with the old matching system, you often had to deal with cars that were ranked 50 points higher than yours.

    There is no dominant position, unless we're talking about the very thing you are promoting: skill. If the cars are the same, the best racer wins. (Pole position advantages cancel each other out over time.)

    (EDIT: To clarify, I'm talking about the cars you actually compete with for world series positions here. Sure, there are always cars in a race that get pounded to the ground, but beating them doesn't result in world series points for me. And if a car like that comes in second after me, it often gets +8 world series points, while I get a big fat equal sign.)

    This is also one of the reasons why people liked cars like the ATS or the 370Z, by the way: These cars reduced the element of chance, because they were seldom matched up with cars they couldn't possibly beat. So it was ATS against ATS, and the better driver won.

    I'm all for shortening the process even further, if possible. But if they have the skills, why do they need a superior car?
     
  5. Turbo 343

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    #3365 Turbo 343, Mar 21, 2014
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    I asked because I did update a few days ago to 7.1 and I have frame rate issues in this new update. It was fine before the Asphalt 8 update running the older version. I can drive B class and manage...I stress manage.. but A class is too broken at that pace so I cannot even guess what S is like. I have rebooted at least 5 times now and it did get a little better. The description above refers to how it is currently running and not when I first ran the update after loading. As it was upon opening for the first time...... basically unplayable.

    Thanks for the reply's folks:)

    Edit: for the MP discussion...I am with Dark and RB here....It seems to be matching up races that in a sense you could not win...as long as the driver of the higher ranked car is even remotely competent they will prevail. Car rank differences in the hundred or better range is just too much to over come honestly. If they wanted to alter the system, I might have opted for points awarded via rank of car vs rank of car wins...or rank of player vs rank of player wins..... If they wanted to stop high ranks playing low cars and whooping lower rank players... then stop giving them points for the win and after some time they will move if they want the points....right? I flat out will not play now if is going to even throw my sesto again lykan that is not going to be fun....Or do we just run that for some time and then what would we have then.....Me, Dark John, RB and company playing multi ranked as 1000.... now how would that be fair to people that are new or less skilled for an other angle.
     
  6. Dark-Zero

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    Its a challenge to stay in top 100 since you lose about 3-4 points for 2nd place so imagine how many points you would lose for any worst of a place. 10 wins is about 40 mins of gameplay if you win every race and depending on the speed of the car you use. Again, the consistency proves you are a good driver. In this situation, high risk equals low reward. Winning 40 games in a row mean nothing if you lose 3-4 straight right after. Thats why its a skill gap.


    The way i pound my opposition didnt just happen as soon as i picked up the game. It took time for me to get to this point. The more time you put into something, the better you'll get at it. Believe me, its a simple as that.

    Most probably wont get 40-50 wins (remember, i said if i dedicated myself to it). I get 15-30 wins on a good day from 2-4 hours of gameplay. Trust me, you dont need to win 40-50 times a day. But remember, if you want to be one the best you have to put in the time and effort to be the best otherwise whats the point of being in top 100 if its so easily obtainable? It would lose its importance and value.


    And no, i dont expect either one of us to change our opinions, since we are strong towards them. So lets just say we agree to disagree. :)
     
  7. Running Bird

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    #3367 Running Bird, Mar 21, 2014
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    Right. And that's exactly how it's always been. Once you get closer to the top, lower-rank players become irrelevant for your points balance — that is, as long as you stay ahead of them. At the same time, you are a perfect opponent for them: If they win, they get tons of points. And if they lose, they still get tons of points. :)
     
  8. Dan't Ponic [ModProof]

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    I guess Running Bird is a little bit upset with Gameloft Dev Team! ;)
     
  9. Turbo 343

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    #3369 Turbo 343, Mar 21, 2014
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    Roger that man.. that in a nut shell is what I meant.... But if they wanted to stop that "per say" then stop the points all together ya know....not put a car against an other one that it stand little to no chance to beat.

    and for the tourny I am just flat out playing hell trying to do anything worth a darn with my frame rate what it is... I am taking and educated guess at half the run at this point. Turn a corner and I have to guess where the car is vs knowing... I am a little frustrated for the moment. I am stuck at 1.03.1 with no boosters... with frame rate what it is now. I cannot guess how it will be with boosters...LOL...We do have one guy under a minute though.

    I will say this for the update and this alone for now :)...I love the new menu/layout!!
     
  10. Habakuk

    Habakuk Well-Known Member

    Game Impressions

    Wow! Updated iPad Air (didn't need even five minutes for the gigabyte). Couldn't find local multiplayer first. Got a pretty hot red head and before doing anything else I saved immediately the old asphalt8.ipa on my Mac just to be sure.

    Then I found it. Local multiplayer is now located behind that office icon top right. Big relief!!!

    Tried some races. Absolutely great new tracks. No framerate issues here. A minor thing: The language was switched to English (Austria! It's not Australia) and I had manually to switch back to German.

    Incredible update! Thanks!
     
  11. Rip73

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    It seems to be just countering my points with a point I've already conceded needs rebalancing.
    I've ready agreed that having a 599xx race a Lykan is too much.
    Let's move on from that focus point of contention, assume that it has been noted and assume it shall be adjusted to a more balanced relativity given a bit of time.

    The ultimate purpose of the changes is to offer more balance across the board. It's really as simple as that.
    It will also have an effect of reducing the highest points, that is inevitable.
    And if you look at the top 100 leaderboard and see that the vast majority are rank 84 and in all probability have the majority of their cars maxed out.

    Along with that, the range from first place to 100th is a rating range of 2410 to 1800. That's a pretty big discrepancy in my book that is purely a result of time invested and has very little relation to skill.

    The update offers an opportunity to rebalance that discrepancy and make the competitive element a closer one.

    The biggest problem I see (beyond the car matching discrepancy which I have no doubt shall be rectified) is that those at the top don't want to be challenged or lose their positions on that leaderboard.
    Which, you know what, is inevitable in a rebalancing and rebooting situation. Which ultimately is what the changes are for.

    As a member of the barely top 30,000, the update offers me an opportunity to climb higher without dedicating every spare hour of every day to do it. My skill level certainly has the ability to do it, my time level does not.

    So, while it will upset the top 100 or top 1000 even, the top 50,000 may look at it differently.

    And if the top 100 truly represents the players of the greatest skill level, well, cream does rise to the top naturally so while the leaderboard goes through its changes, I would imagine the truly skilled will find their way back to the top once the skill points finds a representative point that is not solely based on the amount of time spent racing hundreds or thousands of races and that once that happens players of equal or close skill levels shall be racing each other in relatively matched cars if their rating is at an equal or close level.

    You're also the ignoring the point that if the discrepancy from first to one hundredth is a differential of 610 points, what do you think the differential is the further down you go?

    I'm around 1100 rating and rank 29,879 something or other and if I'm running tournaments at a few hundredths of a second slower than 13th place on the leaderboard with a 2152 rating, is that a true representation of a skilled based rating or simply a reflection of time invested?

    Anyway, I've made my point. I've seen the other points.
    All valid aspects but this really is the end of the matter for me for now until I see how it does actually translate to in reality over the next couple of weeks, so replies on this particular subject won't be discussed further on my part.
    Nothing personal, I just don't want to drag the daylights out of it by having a prolonged point counter point that will inevitably end up in a negative way which is something I would much rather avoid.

    I'd much prefer tips on the new tracks and the current and upcoming tournaments, which I'll probably need.

    Or clarity on framerate issues that would relate device and iOS. I have a suspicion that it is more related to iOS 7.0x as 7.1 did a lot of work on front end memory usage but 7.0x is heavy in that area which could be a causal factor.
     
  12. Turbo 343

    Turbo 343 Well-Known Member

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    #3372 Turbo 343, Mar 21, 2014
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    Well I can only say that in my case....Ipad 4th gen and running IOS 7.1 I have frame rate issues...They have gotten better since my start with the new update. But are no were near acceptable IMO....I would guess that will also work its way out in the wash.

    I have managed to install a sub 1 min. time in the tourny even with it so I guess I cannot bitch too much. However, I wish I could see the track as it should be and have the chance to post that time:p

    Edited to ask: Ryan...why is the tournament leaderboard separated by country? I must say I am not sure I like that...
     
  13. JMart

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    Amazing new track and terrible MP choice

    First off, GL Ryan and the dev team, you guys did an amazing job on the new tracks. It is beautiful and complex and I love it. Keep it up!

    That being said, I have played this game for a long time and the new multiplayer is absurdly flawed. Last count, I am up to 8 days, 12 hours of playing time. I literally had to erase 3 of my 2 year old son's favorite shows just so I can make enough room for the new update. I absolutely love this game and the main reason is the multiplayer. I completed all of the seasons and have achieved everything possible months ago and would have stopped playing if it weren't for the multiplayer. I am currently ranked 120 (and feel like I should be much higher if it weren't for the cheaters, but don't we all?). I don't race in the S class, like most normal players here, because it is too unpredictable and I don't believe there is as much skill involved as some of the lower classes. This new update forces players like me who have spent a ton of time on the game to play at a class that we don't want or else we will automatically lose simply because our cars are outmatched. It literally kills the game for me.

    I just checked and it says I have played in 2038 multiplayer matches and have won 1553 of them. So while I understand that you are trying to allow other players to raise their levels, they could have done that without changing the MP the way you did. I still have lost roughly 25% of my races. And when I come in second to a player ranked much lower, I lose 10+ points. When they come in second, they still gain points!

    Like somebody said before, you fixed something that wasn't broken and now it really is broken. I don't want to race in S class, but if I want to continue playing MP mode, I have to now. You are penalizing the better racers for no reason at all.

    The new MP mode is absurd. It would literally be like forcing a NASCAR champion to suddenly race in formula one because he is too good at what he does, even though he doesn't want to race in formula one. It just isn't right.
     
  14. Rip73

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    #3374 Rip73, Mar 21, 2014
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    Hmm, the framerate one is interesting because I'm on the same set up as you and for the most part, everything is fine.
    But it has taken some very noticeable dips at random times that I would have expected in 7.0x rather than 7.1.

    The tournament one I originally wondered about as well because of the flag of my home base account showing up in the bottom tier but over the leaderboard required position, if you know what I mean.
    But my tournament position number is showing the worldwide one, around 1500 (or so, probably a lot lower by now) and that seems to be the position reflected in my tier rewards as they are classified right now.
    Top 250 in my home base account would be relatively easy and I'm on the top 2500 cup point so it leans me to think that the flag is there for another reason than to say its your national position which leads me to think its the full international position that counts and that is your reflected number position on the international leaderboard.
    Which has to be pretty high with the time you put up I'd guess.

    Plus looking at the my position on the leaderboard, there's a lot of other country flags around me so that leads me to believe it is a full international rank and ranking that counts and that the flag has more of an aesthetic purpose.
     
  15. urnam0

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    #3375 urnam0, Mar 21, 2014
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    Woot! I just got a 1:01:922 on the Great Wall Cup! #26 on the Leaderboard- my first time in the Top 100! And I was nowhere near a perfect lap!

    Question for you guys: in the You Statistics panel: do Multiplayer Race Wins count only the #1 finishes, or does it count the #1, #2, and #3 finishes combined?
     
  16. Habakuk

    Habakuk Well-Known Member

    Love the new city havoc. Boxes with fireworks! Just smash them. Don't fall off the wall.

    Made four of the new (lots of!) career events with all stars. One word: Fantastic!

    Some of impressions (20 screenshots) in this blog posting:
    http://wp.me/poZqi-cA9
     
  17. Turbo 343

    Turbo 343 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting because my leaderboard shows nothing but my flag in all positions and over the leader board rewards section... I cannot find any other flags or folks from other nations at all?

    Same in the friends side of the leaderboard too.. I cannot see RB and some others I know that are not in the US
     
  18. Rip73

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    #3378 Rip73, Mar 21, 2014
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    My impression is that it counts first places only rather than win steaks that count to 3rd.
    I think that's the case anyway, first places only mainly because the win streaks are part of the reward system rather a win.
    I'd guess RB, Turbo or Dark could answer that one better for you though.

    Nice time by the way. Looks like I've a lot of catching up to do.
    Hmmm, I dunno, I'm more confused now then.
    I went and double checked and there's no one with my own flag anywhere near me. No one on my fiends list has shown up yet either though but I originally put that down to the server not synching yet.
    If it is the case that it is national based in this one, I have to admit I'd be relatively happy because it would be a very easy large pay day.:)
    I wouldn't like to see it become the standard because the international friends list is pretty important on a competitive level but if it was a special unique for this one to try and reward more people higher, I'd be kinda happy with that too because it would be easier and a very decent reward.
     
  19. Turbo 343

    Turbo 343 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, that is good for the populas :) I just like to see how I stack up all in all.... We are both talking about the Great Wall event right and not the sorry for the delay one? I see all the flags in the delay cup but not he great wall one...

    Have a good night man... I am off to the nest:cool:
     
  20. Turbo 343

    Turbo 343 Well-Known Member

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    I am fairly sure it counts only the actual wins and not 2nd 3rd place finishes.

    Good time in the cup BTW that is a handfull off a track!
     

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