Any other 6+ owners concerned about 6 vs 6+ game performance?

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  1. paralleltwin

    paralleltwin Member

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    I have the 6+ from pre-order, and I'm a bit miffed after reading about the lower gaming performance compared to the 6. I'm playing all the latest games without any hiccups, but it really makes me wonder looking at Anandtech's graph if I should have just gone with the 6 for a faster gaming experience... it seems like it's 50% faster!

    What say you 6+ owners?

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  2. Columbo

    Columbo Well-Known Member

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    The 6+ is the more powerful device, the problem comes from it having more pixels to fill than the 6.

    If a developer has the resources and is being diligent, there's no reason the 6+ version shouldn't run as well or better than the 6. After all, if the performance of the 6+ isn't up to scratch they can always make it run at the same resolution as the 6.

    Got a link to the Anandtech graph?
     
  3. paralleltwin

    paralleltwin Member

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    #3 paralleltwin, Sep 30, 2014
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    Columbo Well-Known Member

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    " But I'm not entirely convinced devs won't just make it look worse for the 6+ so it will run faster... "

    Yes, there's always a good chance that a developer won't have the same opinion as you about what is most important between resolution vs frame-rate vs battery life.

    Plus, it's likely a lot of games will ship with a quick 'does it run OK on 6+' check and no more thought than that, in which case you're likely to get very high resolution and possibly a slightly compromised frame rate.

    I do wonder if we ought to be offering PC-esque graphics options in iOS games. I haven't in any title I've worked on, largely because it's not the done thing. But the fact is people's priorities are different. Sometimes even an individual's priority will change (like they might want to prioritise battery life if they're away from a charger for awhile).

    I do think those benchmarks are a bit unfair if they're comparing GPUs without consideration for resolution. Especially if they're running the 6+ at 2208x1242 in the benchmarks, which for a full screen game is basically the wrong choice (for an OpenGL/Metal game, there's not too much point running above the physical pixel resolution of 1920x1080). Although, again, it's a wrong choice that many devs might inadvertently make.
     
  5. september

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    #5 september, Oct 1, 2014
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    The 6+ is a 2208x1242 device, it down samples to 1920x1080. Why? you'll have to ask Apple.

    Some info.
     
  6. mr.Ugly

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    since the 6+ is running a clearly higher pixel count in its display including downsampling from a higher resolution, yes in general performance will be worse on the 6+

    its more or less the same as with the introduction of the iphone4 or the ipad3 both hat alot higher res screens but only a slight upgrade in cpu/gpu no on par with added screen resolution.

    i somehow doubt this will be an issue for gaming in general since only very few games are really tasking the hardware, except they are badly optimized.

    since apple uses the same A series chips with slight clock differences in iphone and their ipads i think the general performance should be fine.

    if your hunting for highest possible fps you should of course get the lowest resolution device.
     
  7. Teknikal

    Teknikal Well-Known Member

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    #7 Teknikal, Oct 2, 2014
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    I'm thinking about buying a new phone tomorrow that will likely have this same problem in truth it's the LG G3 which has just too many pixels but same hardware (snapdragon 801) as almost every other Android phone so it's not just an Apple issue.

    Well I'm still undecided I might go for the galaxy alpha which I really like the look off but the price and lack of Micro SD is making me think the G3 is still just much better value well that and the Quad HD screen, dual flash ,laser focused OIS, camera.

    Really having a tricky time deciding to either going for the massive phone with better features but which might be a bit under powered or a phone which has a 720p screen and tons of power for it but lacks a lot of cool stuff.

    Seems every device out there is a compromise.
     
  8. AjaxJump

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    #8 AjaxJump, Oct 3, 2014
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    yes! the only benchmark we have shows the 6+ is slower then the 5s when running games at its native screen res. Glad to finally see someone else talking about this. I'm still split on getting a 6 or 6+. But when a phone that has got to last me 2 years can't keep up with its last gen... feels like the 6+ is a stop gap until the 6+s next year. And that kinda pisses me off when Apple are asking $1200 for a phone.
     
  9. paralleltwin

    paralleltwin Member

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    I'm playing MC5 since it's been updated to run at native, and it does feel slower to me...

    I would rather play it in it's lower res, it looked fine, and was really fast.

    Not sure that will happen now though...

    Hopefully, and newer games will consider res a bit more for the plus.
     
  10. september

    september Well-Known Member

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    Wait for the 6S and 6S+, these are usually the editions that should have been.
     
  11. psj3809

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    Dont mean to be negative but when a new device (or OS) comes out i would always wait a few months for the 'kinks/issues' to either get solved or discovered.

    Instantly buying the latest handset/installing the latest OS might have gremlins/issues as you are practically a guinea pig as to how it'll play the vast majority of games etc.

    This happens every year
     
  12. Teknikal

    Teknikal Well-Known Member

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    If anyone is curious I did end up going with the LG G3 as nice as the Alpha is I couldn't pass up all the extra features I may regret it when it comes to gaming I don't know yet (seems fast enough setting things up and in the main home screens) but all those pixels are bound to have a bad effect in games I would think.

    First real flagship phone I've bought though I usually end up buying mid range, it is big though I'll have to see how it works out in that regard.
     
  13. RoboWarrior

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    The G3 is a pretty compromised device especially for gaming. The 4K screen is going to cause the device to throttle heavily as evidenced by the benchmarks, the GPU is barely cutting out for the device (I loled when I heard that LG was trying to get a mobile GPU to run a 4K display when the Intel HD 4000 has trouble running such display and its significantly more powerful then the Adreno 3xx). Also the display automatically lowers brightness after an hour or so due to overheating problems. That might be annoying in long gaming sessions as it apparently makes it hard to see according to some reviewers in moderate lighting especially compared to other devices.
     
  14. Teknikal

    Teknikal Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I read all that too the reviews were quite varied and I probably read every one online before I bought it but so far it's been perfect. I've just went 25 hours without charging, played with it most of the day and watched half a season of Sons of Anarchy on it I still have 23% battery left.

    Screens gorgeous as well especially with the included QuadHD sample clips although I did change the default colours more to my liking, cameras the best I've had on a phone by miles, IR blaster is great, Micro SD is working great.

    It's early days but I've yet to see anything negative if anything the fears I had beforehand are all vanishing the more I use it.
     
  15. paralleltwin

    paralleltwin Member

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    It's not a great comparison, but I'm interested to see how the 6th nexus goes in terms of gaming...

    Tried the nexus 4 and 5 and loved them but had issues throttling and generally worse gaming than my iPhone 5.

    I also wonder how 6+ will compare to the note 4 for gaming.
     

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