Not sure what to title this since the old version that’s been removed now was exactly the same name? Anyway this is out now, I like it so far as I was playing on TestFlight and have done a lot of the levels and even though I never really build levels I built my first one the other day if anyone want to try it kr2://play/24JFGN I could make it harder but I guess I don’t want to make it too hard that people rage quit and downvote it. As I understand it, it’s cross platform and has the levels from King Rabbit plus the level creator to make and publish your own levels which it tracks some stats for and you can edit them but you have to be able to beat it yourself to publish it. Then of course you can play other peoples levels and like or dislike them which eventually has an effect on if it shows up much for people to play. I’m unsure on the payment model so far, it seems you buy the subscription and it’s all premium or just watch an advert every 5 levels, I’m not sure what else I’m too tired. Although the subscription originally put me off because I don’t want to pay monthly for a game when I can get all of Apple Arcade for not much more, but it seems unnecessary. King Rabbit - Puzzle RareSloth LLC King Rabbit is an enjoyable way to improve your logic and creativity. Challenge yourself with puzzle and action levels. … Free Buy Now Watch Media DetailsKing Rabbit is an enjoyable way to improve your logic and creativity. Challenge yourself with puzzle and action levels. Get your creative juices flowing with the user-friendly level builder. The King Rabbit community is creating hundreds of new levels daily. Collect items, rabbits, and followers. Hop in! Features • 150 campaign levels • Endless community levels • Sync progress across devices • Spectate other players • Collect limited edition rabbits • Follow your favorite level builders • Create your own levels • Build a following • Earn tips from other players • Watch people play your levels • Unlock new items Information Seller:RareSloth LLC Genre:Action, Puzzle Release:Apr 10, 2020 Updated:Dec 09, 2023 Version:1.29.0 Size:189.6 MB TouchArcade Rating:Unrated User Rating:Unrated Your Rating:unrated Compatibility:HD Universal anthony78 Well-Known Member Nov 13, 2015 3,128 703 113 #2 anthony78, Apr 10, 2020 Ugh. Hate subscriptions. Just want to pay once to ditch ads. L.Lawliet, Gotters and ste86uk like this. ste86uk Well-Known Member May 9, 2012 6,774 1,000 113 #3 ste86uk, Apr 10, 2020 It’s definitely how I feel, if all games did it how could I play any of them? It would cost a fortune per month. I mean at least here it doesn’t seem like something that even gives you much of a bonus as an ad per 5 levels isn’t that bad. But yes I’d certainly rather just buy the game but maybe that hasn’t worked out great for them with the previous games? metalcasket Moderator Staff Member Patreon Silver Patreon Gold Patreon Bronze May 24, 2010 11,065 1,342 113 Deepest Circle, Hel #4 metalcasket, Apr 10, 2020 Different games as part of a subscription service (ala Apple Arcade)? Fine. Different games each with their own subscription? Nope. Unfortunately this is the landscape of mobile gaming now and somehow it's gotten worse than when the influx of IAP started. It's gross. Thank **** there are still a handful of publishers and developers who believe in premium mobile gaming, but it's getting easier and easier to just abandon the platform altogether. That said, with King Rabbit, with a level creator suite comes the need to host a bazillion levels and these things come at a price. I get. It's not for me, but I get it. ste86uk likes this. Gotters Well-Known Member Oct 27, 2016 114 31 28 #5 Gotters, Apr 10, 2020 add me to the hating subscriptions model for games - I'd happily pay a one off for something like this but not going anywhere near a sub. psj3809 Moderator Jan 13, 2011 12,966 718 113 England #6 psj3809, Apr 10, 2020 Nah not a fan. Can see a ‘bit’ why devs do it as lots of mobile users just wait for a price drop (from $2 to $1 !) etc Sad state when Devs move to freemium. This game isn’t for me. Pass L.Lawliet Well-Known Member Jun 28, 2011 6,405 420 83 #7 L.Lawliet, Apr 10, 2020 Yeah I bought all their old releases when each one came out. Unfortunately I'll have to pass on this. I don't like the appstore's shift to subscriptions so I won't be taking part in it. The appstore "trends" have been getting worse, just when I thought IAP was the worst of it. How far we've devolved from premium gaming and then a decade later we're at subscription gaming. We went to "pay for your game" to "pay constantly to play your game". sakara214ever Well-Known Member May 10, 2012 1,262 168 63 #8 sakara214ever, Apr 10, 2020 Awful stuff. Deleted as soon as i saw subcription. No. Just no. ste86uk Well-Known Member May 9, 2012 6,774 1,000 113 #9 ste86uk, Apr 10, 2020 I’m still playing it and really all you need to do is watch an ad every 5 levels which isn’t so bad but yes I definitely preferred the old system I don’t know who will want to pay per month. But I guess they weren’t doing great with the old system? I’m sure if it doesn’t work out they will change it as raresloth seems pretty responsive and to care and I can’t blame them wanting to make money on the game. RareSloth Well-Known Member Patreon Bronze Jan 17, 2014 478 11 18 the trees http://www.raresloth.com #10 RareSloth, Apr 11, 2020 Hi everyone, Brian here from RareSloth. I am seeing some of you are frustrated about the monetization structure. We're trying to create something amazing and unique, and I think we're on the right track. King Rabbit is a service. It is not comparable to a finished app that you can just drop on the AppStore, charge $5 for, and walk away. Free is good for sandbox games because there's more players and so much more great content being built, your levels are getting played and builders are earning tips. No one likes a ghost town. And the game is more accessible to people who have no money but want a game that's good for their brain. Classic had 100,000 player-made levels and we expect a much higher number now with being cross-platform on Android and Steam. The new King Rabbit will host tens of thousands of levels, replays, level statistics, user data, tips, tracking levels you’ve played, solutions for every level, skins, transactions, and more - all safely stored on our servers so you can access your account from any device and never lose your progress. In a way this is only the beginning of King Rabbit. We will pushing out ongoing updates with new items, themes, decorations, builder features, a rabbit economy / marketplace, and more. Please anyone show me a comparable and sustainable service for a cheaper price, I want to see how they do it. ste86uk likes this. ste86uk Well-Known Member May 9, 2012 6,774 1,000 113 #11 ste86uk, Apr 11, 2020 @RareSloth When you explain it like that it does sound fair. I do really like the game it’s the first time I’ve ever enjoyed creating a level on any game also. Although I feel like it’s not that hard to watch 1 ad every 5 levels and if it’s worth paying as the bonuses don’t seem great. Although I can understand if you want to avoid it feeling mandatory to get the subscription because I’ve quit games that give players that subscribe huge bonuses because it’s just not feasible for me to pay monthly for the amount of games I play! But I currently only pay for AA so I am tempted as I do really like this this, although I made a few comments in the upcoming thread about how it felt tough that I was only earning 3 coins a level and it would be something like 1666 levels for me to get enough coins for a 5k skin which seems like an awful lot of time investment. Do you plan on adding more stats like death count and resets on your levels? Those would be nice to see. Also I remember reading something on the algorithm for levels being seen? I made my first one ever but it’s just been stuck on 30 plays now only 7 thumbs up and one down but it seems nobody is really on it now and I thought after launch the numbers would shoot up. Edit: levelhead is coming out soon and it seems to be premium and cross platform with the level creation. I’m unsure how they are making it feasible but it seems to just be a premium game. Unsure how they will support it in the long run or if they think that will. anthony78 Well-Known Member Nov 13, 2015 3,128 703 113 #12 anthony78, Apr 11, 2020 I mean, I get over 100 games on Apple Arcade for the same price. So I’m out! Sorry to say it but just no way in hell I would pay $5 a month for ANY one game. Just isn’t happening. sharfaust likes this. ste86uk Well-Known Member May 9, 2012 6,774 1,000 113 #13 ste86uk, Apr 11, 2020 Not sure about the conversion rate but it’s not that much on my store. Your comments seem harsh even if I do see what your saying and can feel the same when you compare it with AA. But I do also think we are very spoilt on iOS with the prices we do have it seems very favourable to us rather than the game devs as it is more so on other platforms. anthony78 Well-Known Member Nov 13, 2015 3,128 703 113 #14 anthony78, Apr 11, 2020 It’s not harsh. It’s reality. I just can’t support this business model but to each their own. This is becoming more common in many games and I can’t support it. How can I pay $100 a month for 20 games that have the same business model? I can’t. And I won’t. BTW, four games alone got content updates on Apple Arcade today so you also can’t argue that they are one and done games. Maslan266 Well-Known Member Oct 14, 2017 397 56 28 #15 Maslan266, Apr 12, 2020 Exactly, I think they should've put it on Apple Arcade instead. A subscription for a single game is ridiculous. skoptic Well-Known Member Apr 3, 2015 634 82 28 #16 skoptic, Apr 12, 2020 I’m not frustrated about the monetisation, but I’m looking for a game not a service. ste86uk Well-Known Member May 9, 2012 6,774 1,000 113 #17 ste86uk, Apr 12, 2020 I wouldn’t plan on arguing it because even though I don’t really go on the AA forums lately I’ve still got AA and loved the update for Speed Demons. I completely understand and agree with what your saying. But also have sympathy for the dev in navigating the market and trying to get it right so you aren’t loosing money. sakara214ever Well-Known Member May 10, 2012 1,262 168 63 #18 sakara214ever, Apr 12, 2020 A comparable and sustainable service at this price? Apple Arcade. And this is a game not a "service". No matter what words someone might choose to describe it it still remains a game asking for a subscription. Thank god AppStore has so many options to choose from. anthony78 likes this. RareSloth Well-Known Member Patreon Bronze Jan 17, 2014 478 11 18 the trees http://www.raresloth.com #19 RareSloth, Apr 13, 2020 Last edited: Jul 28, 2020 Thank you for the feedback everyone. The community levels will still show ads unless you subscribe, otherwise the heavy data transfer requirements and long-term updates would make it unsustainable for us over the long-term. We hope you understand that we are trying our best to do the right thing. Thank you for your feedback and hope you will enjoy the upcoming improvements! Best, Brian ste86uk Well-Known Member May 9, 2012 6,774 1,000 113 #20 ste86uk, Apr 13, 2020 I really like you and it is good that your taking it onboard and I do hope that things all work out for you and being able to make a profit on the game. I just seen on the levelhead they said they worked a lot to get the file sizes down and that the file size for a player created level only takes 2.5kb so they weren’t worried about storing and just charging upfront. (You must log in or sign up to post here.) Show Ignored Content Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Share This Page Tweet Your name or email address: Do you already have an account? No, create an account now. Yes, my password is: Forgot your password? Stay logged in
It’s definitely how I feel, if all games did it how could I play any of them? It would cost a fortune per month. I mean at least here it doesn’t seem like something that even gives you much of a bonus as an ad per 5 levels isn’t that bad. But yes I’d certainly rather just buy the game but maybe that hasn’t worked out great for them with the previous games?
Different games as part of a subscription service (ala Apple Arcade)? Fine. Different games each with their own subscription? Nope. Unfortunately this is the landscape of mobile gaming now and somehow it's gotten worse than when the influx of IAP started. It's gross. Thank **** there are still a handful of publishers and developers who believe in premium mobile gaming, but it's getting easier and easier to just abandon the platform altogether. That said, with King Rabbit, with a level creator suite comes the need to host a bazillion levels and these things come at a price. I get. It's not for me, but I get it.
add me to the hating subscriptions model for games - I'd happily pay a one off for something like this but not going anywhere near a sub.
Nah not a fan. Can see a ‘bit’ why devs do it as lots of mobile users just wait for a price drop (from $2 to $1 !) etc Sad state when Devs move to freemium. This game isn’t for me. Pass
Yeah I bought all their old releases when each one came out. Unfortunately I'll have to pass on this. I don't like the appstore's shift to subscriptions so I won't be taking part in it. The appstore "trends" have been getting worse, just when I thought IAP was the worst of it. How far we've devolved from premium gaming and then a decade later we're at subscription gaming. We went to "pay for your game" to "pay constantly to play your game".
I’m still playing it and really all you need to do is watch an ad every 5 levels which isn’t so bad but yes I definitely preferred the old system I don’t know who will want to pay per month. But I guess they weren’t doing great with the old system? I’m sure if it doesn’t work out they will change it as raresloth seems pretty responsive and to care and I can’t blame them wanting to make money on the game.
Hi everyone, Brian here from RareSloth. I am seeing some of you are frustrated about the monetization structure. We're trying to create something amazing and unique, and I think we're on the right track. King Rabbit is a service. It is not comparable to a finished app that you can just drop on the AppStore, charge $5 for, and walk away. Free is good for sandbox games because there's more players and so much more great content being built, your levels are getting played and builders are earning tips. No one likes a ghost town. And the game is more accessible to people who have no money but want a game that's good for their brain. Classic had 100,000 player-made levels and we expect a much higher number now with being cross-platform on Android and Steam. The new King Rabbit will host tens of thousands of levels, replays, level statistics, user data, tips, tracking levels you’ve played, solutions for every level, skins, transactions, and more - all safely stored on our servers so you can access your account from any device and never lose your progress. In a way this is only the beginning of King Rabbit. We will pushing out ongoing updates with new items, themes, decorations, builder features, a rabbit economy / marketplace, and more. Please anyone show me a comparable and sustainable service for a cheaper price, I want to see how they do it.
@RareSloth When you explain it like that it does sound fair. I do really like the game it’s the first time I’ve ever enjoyed creating a level on any game also. Although I feel like it’s not that hard to watch 1 ad every 5 levels and if it’s worth paying as the bonuses don’t seem great. Although I can understand if you want to avoid it feeling mandatory to get the subscription because I’ve quit games that give players that subscribe huge bonuses because it’s just not feasible for me to pay monthly for the amount of games I play! But I currently only pay for AA so I am tempted as I do really like this this, although I made a few comments in the upcoming thread about how it felt tough that I was only earning 3 coins a level and it would be something like 1666 levels for me to get enough coins for a 5k skin which seems like an awful lot of time investment. Do you plan on adding more stats like death count and resets on your levels? Those would be nice to see. Also I remember reading something on the algorithm for levels being seen? I made my first one ever but it’s just been stuck on 30 plays now only 7 thumbs up and one down but it seems nobody is really on it now and I thought after launch the numbers would shoot up. Edit: levelhead is coming out soon and it seems to be premium and cross platform with the level creation. I’m unsure how they are making it feasible but it seems to just be a premium game. Unsure how they will support it in the long run or if they think that will.
I mean, I get over 100 games on Apple Arcade for the same price. So I’m out! Sorry to say it but just no way in hell I would pay $5 a month for ANY one game. Just isn’t happening.
Not sure about the conversion rate but it’s not that much on my store. Your comments seem harsh even if I do see what your saying and can feel the same when you compare it with AA. But I do also think we are very spoilt on iOS with the prices we do have it seems very favourable to us rather than the game devs as it is more so on other platforms.
It’s not harsh. It’s reality. I just can’t support this business model but to each their own. This is becoming more common in many games and I can’t support it. How can I pay $100 a month for 20 games that have the same business model? I can’t. And I won’t. BTW, four games alone got content updates on Apple Arcade today so you also can’t argue that they are one and done games.
Exactly, I think they should've put it on Apple Arcade instead. A subscription for a single game is ridiculous.
I wouldn’t plan on arguing it because even though I don’t really go on the AA forums lately I’ve still got AA and loved the update for Speed Demons. I completely understand and agree with what your saying. But also have sympathy for the dev in navigating the market and trying to get it right so you aren’t loosing money.
A comparable and sustainable service at this price? Apple Arcade. And this is a game not a "service". No matter what words someone might choose to describe it it still remains a game asking for a subscription. Thank god AppStore has so many options to choose from.
Thank you for the feedback everyone. The community levels will still show ads unless you subscribe, otherwise the heavy data transfer requirements and long-term updates would make it unsustainable for us over the long-term. We hope you understand that we are trying our best to do the right thing. Thank you for your feedback and hope you will enjoy the upcoming improvements! Best, Brian
I really like you and it is good that your taking it onboard and I do hope that things all work out for you and being able to make a profit on the game. I just seen on the levelhead they said they worked a lot to get the file sizes down and that the file size for a player created level only takes 2.5kb so they weren’t worried about storing and just charging upfront.
