newipadsWell today's Apple keynote has come and gone, and unfortunately for all us gamers there was nary a whisper of anything controller or Apple TV related. When the heck is Apple going to officially speak of these controllers!? Anyway, what we did see announced was pretty much what all the rumors had been pointing towards. Apple showed off more of OS X Mavericks, and then in a very surprising but awesome move announced that it would be released today as a free upgrade, even being available for iMacs and MacBooks released as far back as 2007. The iWork suite of apps has received significant overhauls, and again Apple has announced that those apps will be free for customers purchasing a new Mac or iOS device. Finally, the meat and potatoes of the keynote was the introduction of the two new iPad models.

There's a new full-size iPad which, for the first time since the original iPad's introduction, significantly changes the overall form factor. It mimics the form of the iPad mini with much smaller side bezels, and of course like any new iteration of an Apple product it's also thinner and lighter. Probably the biggest surprise is the name of the new device, the iPad Air. I remember some of the naming weirdness we've had with the iPad. The original iPad was simply "iPad" while the second generation version was "iPad 2." Then the third generation iPad was known as "iPad with Retina Display" but then later in the year when the fourth generation version was announced, it went back to being just "iPad." At least with the iPad Air moniker, we know which version is being talked about.

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Next up was the new iPad mini. Form factor-wise, it follows closely to the original device that was first released last year. The major upgrade here is that the iPad mini now comes with a 2048 x 1536 resolution Retina Display. This has far and away been the most desired feature for me and many others when it comes to the iPad mini, as the form factor is fantastic but when using a full-size iPad or iPhone which both have Retina Displays and then going back to the iPad mini, it was definitely noticeable that the screen looked much lower resolution. And, since the iPad mini uses the same resolution as the bit iPad but with a smaller screen, the pixel density will be higher so things should look even sharper on its new screen.

Besides the new iPad Air's form factor and the iPad mini's Retina Display, the big news regarding this new lineup of iPads has to do with the internal hardware. Both versions of the iPad will run Apple's 64-bit A7 processor, keeping both models in line with each other in terms of performance. This is a change from the original iPad mini which essentially had the same guts as the iPad 2 while the fourth generation iPad had the guts of a beast. Of course, this is based on the information that Apple has divulged, and once the devices are actually in the hands of customers we may find that there are differences between the two models. Still, they should basically be on equal footing in terms of hardware capabilities which is a great thing.

This makes me excited thinking about the possibilities for graphically advanced gaming going forward, however, in what I think is kind of a strange move, Apple has decided to keep the iPad 2 around as the "entry level" iPad for those who want to buy one of the tablets at a reduced price. Yes, the iPad 2. Seeing how difficult it already can be to release new games while still supporting older (and usually highly underpowered) devices, keeping the iPad 2 around as a "new" device will likely keep those difficulties going. Apple also announced that the original, Retina Display-less iPad mini would be sticking around too, at a remarkable starting pricepoint of $299, so I guess if anything developers will be able to target the existing iPad 2-level hardware as the low end for support purposes.

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The two new iPad models will be hitting virtual and physical store shelves really soon. The iPad Air goes on sale November 1st, starting at $499 for a 16GB model and going up to $799 for a 128GB model. The iPad mini with Retina Display will be shipping "sometime" in November, and starts at $399 for the 16GB model and goes up to $699 for the 128GB model. I'm very happy to see the 128GB storage option for the new iPad mini. Of course, add $129 dollars on to any version of the iPad if you're planning on getting one with cellular capabilities. Both the iPad Air and the iPad mini will be offered in two color choices, a silver with a white face or a "space grey" with a black face, both looking pretty much like their iPhone counterparts.

So what do you guys think? Are you going to buy either of these new iPads? Are you as stoked as I am to finally have an iPad mini with a Retina Display? Are you disappointed that there was no talk of iOS 7 controllers or anything to do with an updated Apple TV? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

  • B3nlok

    Where is the ipad "pro" or ipad "premium"? I mean if there is the Air version, should not there be the "pro" version with the a7x? The moment a flagship device carries a name that denotes inferiority is when you can expect they will come up with a new premium model. Seems odd to me the Air has the same specs as Mini2 but its $100 more expensive.

    • John Merkowsky

      Watch Apple pull a New-new iPad, like the 3 to 4. In a few months the A7X will be out. My guess is, they didn't have it ready in time. Otherwise why would they do this? The A7 powers a device with 23.1% as many pixels as the new iPads currently, that is, the iPhone 5s. It makes no sense.

      • rewyan

        I absolutely agree. Its fishy that there's no A7X, due to the previous iPads having the "X" chip as well. iPads should be more powerful than the iPhone because they're bigger and more expensive. Hell, they should be more powerful than the iPad mini just because that's how it was the last time around. I'm not paying an extra $200 for a bigger screen.

        I also feel like Apple is making devices thinner at their own rate, leaving room for improvement for the next model. I don't know if that's true, but if it is....

      • https://www.facebook.com/DigitalDistillery Scot Damn

        It's actually only $100 more for the bigger screen. I thought the same thing.

      • C. Stubb

        Then just buy a mini :p

      • https://www.facebook.com/DigitalDistillery Scot Damn

        I agree. The 3 inch difference isn't a big deal to me. Mini Retina all the way!

      • TeddyNYC

        More like a 2 inch (actually 1.8") difference: iPad Air 9.7", iPad mini 7.9"

      • themostunclean

        Actually, iPhones are MORE expensive than iPads. The only time they're cheaper is when you buy on contract, unlocked iPhones cost $549 for 16GB while iPads start at $499.

        So the argument that they should be more powerful because they cost more is irrelevant.

      • DBrown519

        Yes I agree!

      • WeMeet

        a7 on ipad air will have a higher clock rate..... instead 1.3 ghz on iphone 5s ipad air might be 1.7 ghz which is a big difference

      • PresidentZer0

        The retina resolutions needs a better gpu, not CPU.

      • PresidentZer0

        Yep, th question now is, will the a7 on the air be more powerful compared to the a6x(talking about games here)

      • John Merkowsky

        I don't see why it would be much more, considering the A6X performance in the iPad 4 was on par with the A6 in the iPhone 5. If the A7 is double the A6, how can it be double the A6X, which was designed to push 333% more pixels?

      • PresidentZer0

        Okay... Will have to wait for some year downs then, if it has 2gb of ram I might get the air.... Still not happy about it

      • PresidentZer0

        I am also pretty sure they will release a pro version. Makes sense because there is a MacBook Air and pro.... The pro will have the a7x and maybe a bigger screen... I don't like that we have kind of an new ipad 3 launch.if you know what I mean

      • John Merkowsky

        They have been testing 12.9 inch models, so you do have a really good point, as that would give them a motive to withhold the A7X, but only if the iPad Pro comes out before next october (A8 and A8X due then).

      • PresidentZer0

        It makes total sense. The 12.9 or whatever inch display would be "perfect" for the whole family. And it will also have touch id for multiple ios accounts(for the family).....meh

      • John Merkowsky

        Lol, people'll do the same thing with it as those "family packs" of skittles and m&ms.

      • PresidentZer0

        It's called marketing

      • Lazer Kat

        The MaxiPas

      • B3nlok

        John Merkowsky

        It doent make any sense to introduce the Air if you dont have a Pro or Heavy or whatever version ready to go, as the premium model with beefier specs. During the keynote the second they anounced the Air i new the Pro would be next. It never came.I fully expect Apple will announce a Ipad Pro before 2014.

        Introducing a Mini 2 Retina $100 cheaper with same specs as the main ipad is insane.

      • John Merkowsky

        They don't announce it yet so that everyone buys the air first, then half the people buy the pro before next october, maybe march or june or something.

      • B3nlok

        The Air is a disaster. People wanting to buy an ipad now will go for the Mini 2.

      • Lazer Kat

        That's silly conjecture.
        No one knows.
        For all we know, and this could very well be true, the air has twice the memory and is a much better device.

      • http://rekzkarz.com/ REkzkaRZ

        They did announce the pro. It was the Mac Pro.

        You know, the black tube thingie with crazy specs and no drives and not even any flashy lights on the front. "Tubular", eh?

      • Nick

        Why do people keep thinking this?

        It happened once, and allowed apple to supply all the new devices in the 4th quarter.

        As for the A7x, we don't know if it's possible to push the CPU speed at this point, it's all assumptions.
        Clearly we are at the pinnacle of ability to really see a huge jump, like the difference between the iPad 2 and 4.
        There were also many articles discussing the difficulty in seeing major performance increases due to limitations in size/power, and especially with the iPad being even thinner and lighter, it might not have been possible now.
        With the minor changes (sorry, but "double" the speed isn't even close to the difference between the 2 - 4), it isn't a slam dunk, but we also don't know if the power of the 64bit chip doesn't make up for not having an "X"

      • Lazer Kat

        Hopefully the air has More RAM

      • Unfrozen

        I followed the Ars Technica live blog for the event. They posted quickly during the live blog that the performance increases Apple spoke of with the A7 in the new iPads had to mean that it was not the identical chip in the 5S, but closer to an A7X.

        The keynote said double the graphics performance in the A7 in the iPad Air from the previous gen iPad with its A6X, but all benchmarks showed the A7 in the 5S to be pretty much on par with the A6X for graphics. It could be an adjustment of their naming convention for the processors to sound more simplified. Perhaps the graphics capabilities of the A7 in the iPad over the A7 in the 5S will mostly be used to handle the 4X the pixels in he iPads, the graphics resources remaining are similarly enough on par that they chose to simplify the name. That way consumers would expect relatively level gaming performance between playing on an A7 based iPad and an iPhone 5S, just a larger screen. Whereas gaming performance between a 4th gen iPad and an iPhone 5 was less even.

        But I offer only speculation from the deductions of Ars during the event, I would suggest anyone that's interested in the performance of the A7 in the iPads vs the 5S watch Andandtech's site. They always offer the most technical and knowledgable coverage on Apples chips. Even without hands on, their familiarity of SoC's allows them to draw the most accurate conclusions.

    • szydab1

      I believe its because of the size but its still shouldnt be 100 more

    • Erdi

      U know what is curious?
      the a7 of the 5s is double as fast as the a6 according to apple.
      the a7 of the Air is double as fast as the a6x according to apple.:D
      the a7 of the air could be a A7X without its name who know :D

  • oooooomonkey

    Well looks like I'm happy with my iPad4 for another year :-)
    I knew the iPad 4 was a beast that would be around for a while.

    • JCman7

      Me too!

    • rewyan

      Both of my iPad 4s look like I got them yesterday. One is almost in mint condition (has screen protector and heavy-duty case) and the other is near-perfect as well. I don't see a reason to get a new iPad.

      • one.sixty.four

        For people with an iPad 4 there is little to no reason to get a new iPad air. But for people with an iPad 1-3, there are lots of reasons.

      • Lazer Kat

        This too is conjecture.

      • hourglass

        Power. Nicer. Improved camera.

        Hell, I'll be getting a new Mini just for the retina.

    • Taclys

      If I needed to update iPads, I would totally do it now. But my iPad 3 is hanging on amazingly well, and since I'm not using it for professional purposes, I can stick with this.

  • themostunclean

    I was really psyched about the mini having the same specs as the air. I currently have the iPad 2 so going to the mini wasn't really much of an upgrade for me.

    Unfortunately, there's no solid date for the mini. If it's not nailed down soon, I may go with the Air out of sheer impatience. I've been waiting to upgrade a long time.

    • Pray For Death

      It's rumored to have half the RAM (1gb vs 2) and slower frequency on the processor.

      • zergslayer69

        I have a good feeling the ipad air has only 1gb of ram otherwise apple would've made a big deal about it (maybe they did and I missed it).

      • Pray For Death

        Historically, apple has never mentioned RAM capacity on iOS devices in their keynotes

      • zergslayer69

        We'll find out in a week and a half! Let's cross our fingers

      • themostunclean

        Double the RAM would cause the price difference to be much more significant than $100. Look what they charge just for extra storage space.

        The 5S still only has 1GB of RAM so I highly doubt the new iPads will have any more. The 5S runs amazing on it's current processing configuration so there's no need to beef it up. Now if it was an A6x chip it may have been a different story.

      • PresidentZer0

        So you think it has 2gigs or not?

      • zergslayer69

        Want to say yes but I bet it's more wishful thinking than reality. Apple will be as incremental as possible in their new generation as possible and only update what needs to be updated. I'll still be getting the air anyways.

  • sleb

    I like that the new mini equals out with the iPad. Also that all the iLife, iWork,GarageBand and other apps come free with the new devices.

    • Lazer Kat

      This screwed us current GarageBand users.
      The app we paid for is now removed from the App Store, and will now be free. We will have to buy the features we've already bought.

      • http://rekzkarz.com/ REkzkaRZ

        Yep. I shelled out the big $5 too. OWWWW!!
        You're not screwed -- just keep your GarageBand version & don't upgrade. Meh

  • mycoolroy

    No a seven and no fingerprint sensor? Really disappointing whereas the iPad mini with the new retina screen and a seven chip (the same chip in the iPhone 5s and iPad air) is a suprise.

    • http://portablegamingregion.com/ PortableGamingRegion

      Is fingerprint sensor really that big of a deal?

  • FortyOneNY

    I am super happy that the new mini has a retina display and that the processor is the same as the new iPad. It certainly will make upgrading from my original iPad (hello iOS 5.1.1) that much sweeter. It is also nice that I could get a 64GB mini for about the same price as a 32GB Air. Hopefully I can find someone that wants to buy my old iPad as a 'toy' for their kids or something to offset part of the cost. :D

  • Poo

    My wife and I are getting new mini's.

  • ste86uk

    I'd like a dual antenna for connecting to wifi, kindle fire has one and my fiancée keeps the wifi signal far better and further away than me.

  • Boobi

    I was certain on getting iPad air, upgrading from iPad 3 but now the iPad mini is a serious competitor. Not 100% sure.

  • Donny K76

    My latest device is an iPad 3 64 gig, and the battery is fading. Im not sure whether I should get the iPad 4 128 gig or the iPad Air 128 gig. The new mini looks great, but only interested in the iPad 4 or iPad Air...

    • Lazer Kat

      Why would you consider getting a 4 instead of an air?

      • Donny K76

        I read through a lot of responses above and below, watched a video on CNN comparing the 2 new models, and of course read the article here on TA. Now I can't decide whether or not to get the iPad Air or the Ipad Mini 2! I would use either solely for gaming...

    • anabolicMike

      Well. I bet there is some mega monster of an iPad coming out soon. It seems like it would be an apple thing to do doesn't it? Like the air is the same in specs as the mini. That doesn't sit right. It's strange. Maybe I'm just weird.

  • PresidentZer0

    Why doesn't the air have a7x? You know because of the retina resolution.... It makes it weaker than th iphone 5s.... No controllers as we'll....

  • naeemthm

    Man...ZERO controller talk! What exactly is going on with controller support? Apps are being updated for iOS 7 controller support, a few gamepads have leaked, yet still no official word from Apple.

    • zergslayer69

      Good point, I was so excited about hearing the specs for the ipad I totally forgot about the controller thing for next year!

  • zergslayer69

    So, since the ipad air has the A7, that means it's already behind the flagship android devices (I'm going off the 3dmark scores). Looks like this new ipad is a small increase in performance (not 2x) over the ipad 4 if you go by the scores. I know the whole argument about "no a7x" but I guess they figure since the a7 already has a quad gpu, no need to do the x to it. Well here's hoping that they'll at least clock the ghz higher in the ipad version of the a7 since it as A LOT more pixels to push over the iphone 5s.

  • PresidentZer0

    Mfi controllers on the next apple event I guess..... Where is a good chance that devs will not care even more now... Great. I am pissed off

  • LousyHero

    Well im guessing that with the ipad 2 still lingering around, and no a7x for the air we will be seen another release sooner rather than later. Also a bit disappointed they went up in price with the mini, i thought the former price point was pretty competitive. Of course they will sell a boat load anyhow so not like that matters. TL:DR I was excited for the announcement, but can't help feeling a little let down.

  • one.sixty.four

    I'll be buying the iPad mini retina for sure, now I'm just deciding between 64GB and 128GB. I'm a little disappointed by the lack of a better camera and touch ID, but retina display and an A7 chip is what really matters to me.

  • witedahlia

    I love my iPad mini but will definitely be upgrading to the new retina one with 128GB. Wasn't expecting that bit of good news!

  • http://about.me/davidlnguyen David Nguyen

    It looks like the gold iPad mini with touch ID picture was a fake but it should be no surprise because it was shown only a few days before the event started and there's already a huge shortage of gold phones and limited supplies with the sapphire crystals. One one hand you can't complain about new products coming out on the horizon because that's a never ending cycle so you can't ever settle with ever having the best. But on the other hand for those who are perfectly happy with their iPads then it might be wiser to wait until either springish, or more realistically next fallish to get the next versions which will hopefully have the touch ID sensors.

    I don't think touch ID is 100 percent necessary to have on iPads, but it works so good on iPhones and it's hard to imagine not having it on any iOS devices now. I don't like typing in my 4 digit passcode to turn on my devices all the time and it's so nice to just rest my finger on the home button to download apps now. I guess the best choice for me will probably be to sell my mini and go for the new retina mini!

  • jtfields

    I'm also surprised the new fingerprint touch sensor from the iPhone 5S was not included on the new models.

  • Steven

    I didn't care about any of the news they announced, all I was hoping for was ios controller announcements. Now I'm just disappointed again. :(

    • PresidentZer0

      I feel you bro

  • toffee

    Improved backside illumination???

  • Capricornman

    Those narrower bezels have me mesmerized

  • theethanman2000

    This isn't that amazing... It's just like the iPhone 5s... It just has a few features added... Theres not that much big of a difference between the iPhone 5 and 5s... I have an iPhone 5 and it's great! And I also have An iPad mini... And it's great! I won't deny that the new retina display will be a cool bonus but that's practically all that's new! So I would wait until the iPad mini 2 or 3 or whatever it's gonna be called... And same with the iPad and iPhone... Wait until the iPad 6 and iPhone 6 there will be waaay more features! Especially if your going from an iPad or iPhone 5 to an iPhone or iPad 6! People just wanna get the latest greatest but before you know it won't be that amazing anymore cuz something new will come and then your device will be the old device... But that's just how it is I guess.... I love apple... Don't get me wrong here. I just don't think these new pads are worth it... :)

    • themostunclean

      At this point in mobile device technology you just won't see the giant leaps you would a few years ago. Every generation now is just an incremental upgrade (across the board, not just with Apple) so consumers would be wise to adopt a philosophy of an "every other" upgrade.

  • korkidog

    I plan on ordering the new Mini when it's available.

  • http://twitter.com/BeRad_Ent Be-Rad

    New retina mini all the way!
    The 1st gen mini is already great for gaming so the new model will be that much better.

  • LORE

    No controller news?! Apple sucks! When r they going to start saying something interesting like they used to back when cook wasn't CEO?

  • http://portablegamingregion.com/ PortableGamingRegion

    Glad to see Apple's focusing on diversifying its selection while offering similar processing power.

  • PresidentZer0

    No new instruments for GarageBand on ios.. Now I am even more pissed :(

    • Lazer Kat

      Well it does have Inter-App audio and it doubled the tracks.
      Now well just have to IAP the things we already bought.
      *frown*

      • PresidentZer0

        I don't have any iap on ios.

      • PresidentZer0

        And for inter app was audiobus there before. Just saying some new instruments would be. Ice. Some horns maybe. And also the new design... I don't know. It's just black

      • Lazer Kat

        Well if you're serious about wanting more instruments, and making music on an iPad, GarageBand shouldn't even be an app you keep up with.

      • PresidentZer0

        Thank you for making that clear for me,

      • PresidentZer0

        What are your alternatives?

      • Lazer Kat

        Beatmaker 2, Cubasis, Auria, Multi-Track DAW, Metero, Synergy Studio,Tabletop, Animoog, iSEM, iMini, iMPc, Magellan, sunrizer, iMS-20, iPolysix, iElectribe, etc.
        I could keep going...but my point is that, while GarageBand IS a decent app, if you're serious about making music on an iOS device there are literally a hundred alternatives which are better suited for a serious musician.

      • PresidentZer0

        I use GarageBand just to record anyway. I use audiobus and then another guitar amp app for my guitar and bass. I use dm1 for drum machine. But I guess I am not a serious musician since I use GarageBand

      • Lazer Kat

        No. I didn't mean it like that. GarageBand is cool at what it does. It's just there are better alternatives. That's all. For what you do GarageBand is probably fine, but I'm sure you'd love Jam Up Pro.

      • PresidentZer0

        Will look into that!

      • Lazer Kat

        This gb update is actually pretty nice.
        It exports uncompressed aiff files to open in other apps without the need for a PC, and I can now control other synths with gb.

  • PresidentZer0

    The event is still running right? Couldn't it possible that there are some controllers on the event where people can try out the new hardware?

  • knowsnothing

    I know this is selfish, but I'm glad they're keeping the iPad 2 around: that means my 3 won't be obsolete so quickly!

    • B3nlok

      Ipad 3 is obsolete since it launched. Anybody with slightest tech interest could see that coming. Now this is sad. Looking at a lifespan of a device you dont have just so you can avoid facing the fact that you did a mistake buying a device underpowered to drive the Retina display.

      • IIIXAaronXIII

        I got the iPad 3 then no kidding 3 weeks later they announced the iPad 4. I was so pissed! The one thing I don't understand though is why you are saying the iPad 3 is out of date already. I understand in terms of where the hardware is in new devices but in terms of performance I don't see it and probably will not see it until apps start depending on and using all of the new features of the newer hardware. All of the high end games run great on my iPad 3. Being an artist I also do a ton of drawing on it using Procreate and never have issues, even creating 4K art. So is it just the hardware you are referring to?

  • Maskirovka

    I still don't understand why people are willing to pay apple storage upgrade prices. Their prices continue to be ridiculously higher than any non apple memory. SD cards and SSDs continue to drop in price but apple customers continue to buy memory at inflated prices...stop it, dudes!

    • IIIXAaronXIII

      I hear yeah man! All though it's a pain in the a$$ sometimes I got the 16GB for that reason. I have to say though my next iPad is going to have to be a 32GB. 16GB really is to small for an artist/gamer iPad.

      • Maskirovka

        I mean...I kinda get it...you don't want 2 devices. It's too bad the software availability gap is there because I think there are some fantastic options for windows convertibles. Very good hardware for the price. I wanted a tablet and I went with a refurb 16gb mini a couple months ago. I'm happy with it but that's cause I mostly use it for gaming and I find android gaming options to be rather lacking and I have an android phone for all the non gaming things I don't need a larger screen for.

        With upcoming devices like the Sony 11inch flip windows convertible, I see no reason for most people to buy an apple tablet with upgraded storage.

        This is all not to mention cloud storage availability...

      • IIIXAaronXIII

        Yes it would be great to have an SD slot on my iPad to be able to expand the storage.

        I have not looked at any of the windows tablets. The main thing that has drawn me to the iPad is the App Store and iTunes. Like you I have had an Android phone for the last 2 years and I am just not a big fan of google play. Not sure why though.

        I will have to take a look at the windows tablets when it comes time to upgrade. If I could get a tablet with an SD slot that would run Maya, Mudbox and other 3D/drawing apps I would be in heaven! Then I would be able to work anywhere, anytime. If only there was a tablet that would let you install PC apps.....that would be nice.

  • UnSurreal

    So the question is - buy or wait. I have an ipad 2 - but have been waiting to get my wife her own ipad. Buy or wait - opinions?

    • tejas96

      Wait

    • IIIXAaronXIII

      Like I said in my post above, I got my iPad 3 last Oct. and about 3 weeks after I got it they released the iPad 4. I was pretty pissed. I would probably wait till it gets closer to the holidays to see if they do release a version with the new chip.

  • RinoaHeartily

    Buying the mini is the stupidest thing to do .. Air has bigger screen and only slightly heavier than mini 2 which itself it's heavier than mini 1..

    Both you can't put into your pocket why get the mini? Size does matter

    • PresidentZer0

      Good for you. Good for you.....

    • http://rekzkarz.com/ REkzkaRZ

      Stupidest thing to do is yap on and on about something which obv is different for different people. For many folks, the mini size is the main selling point.

  • rgeiken

    Trying to find out how much ram these devices come with is like looking for the holy grail. Almost all Android devices note how much ram they come with since ram should actually make a device work better. Lots of ram sure makes my Lenovo i7 desktop work better than a dual core with 2 gig of ram like probably came with the original Surface with RT.

  • renatpl

    I'm getting a mini with retina for endless fun

  • captainugboots

    I'm happy there was no controller or tv stuff. This will now leave it open for a third and final reveal and leave it to be wholly concentrated on TV and controller stuff as that is all that's left

    Can't wait!

  • TeddyNYC

    You're right, the A7 in the iPad Air could be a modified/enhanced A7 without the 'X' designation. It looks like a tear-down is in order...or ideally, Apple could shed more light on this, as well as how much RAM the iPad Air & iPad mini 2 both have.

  • jin choung

    very disappointed that there was no discussion about controllers. also really glad i didn't wait to buy the ipad mini non retina. given the price premium, it's probably what i would've gotten anyway.

  • NickyNichols

    I don't know about the rest of you, but I am thrilled that my iPad 2 is not irrelevant!

  • Rainbow Whang

    So I have an ipad mini I got in January, is there any way I can trade it in and get and ipad mini with retina for a lower price???

  • anabolicMike

    Oh yes. Where's the apple smartwatch? I want one. I also want the fully functional Apple TV that comes with the apple controller. Cause you know that's coming.

  • John Danner

    How much ram? My Nexus 7 has 2 Gigs.

  • http://rekzkarz.com/ REkzkaRZ

    I was really impressed with the groundbreaking iWatch & new Apple TV announcements. Uh, where the heck where they?!?
    *NOTABLY ABSENT*
    Did Samsung kick Apple right in the ... uh, seeds?

  • tomj315

    Apparently the Apple TV will be coming in WWDC 2014 on June, with the famous iWatch who was always planned to be in that time.

    as we can see, apple will not change the two- year update of the iPods to one- year update Back again, because they just have more important products to release, and even that we think that they can do anything in no-time, they are just humans, and it wasn't different when Steve Jobs was alive.

    I think that what Apple is planning for us worth the waiting, because when it will release, it will be absolutely perfect in design, system, no bugs at all etc.

    I've got an iPad 3, and before the release I was thinking, and I wrote it too: " my iPad don't get stuck, and all the games I'm throwing on it still working without any problem, and maybe I will buy the iPad 6" but now, with the new standard of 64-bit apps and games, there will soon be apps that my old iPad just wouldn't be able to run.
    So I completely buying the iPad Air, and I recommend you all to do like me.

    • somedumbgamer

      I too have an ipad3 and want to upgrade but just can't decide between the air and mini. The mini would be better to hold but just not sure about the smaller screen. All I use it for is games and surfing

  • tomj315

    I would be buying the iPad Air even if there's an iPad Pro coming up, because in my opinion, I think that the iPad Pro will be running Mac OS X.

    It's really making sense. In the presentation apple said that they "have a really clear direction for the Mac", and I saw some comments here about the missing a7x chip and about that it's making sense That will be an iPad pro too, for example the MacBook Pro and Air.

    Next year apple will be presenting the Mac OS 11, and it will make super sense that it will be supporting touch-screens. According to that, we can expect for a new lineup of Macs with touch-screens and of course- the iPad pro with Mac OS.

    I think that if an iPad with Mac OS is something that you want, you should wait for next year. And In personal, I see a huge difference between the full size iPad and the iPad mini, and the price isn't so bigger. If you don't know to buy the iPad Air and the iPad mini, I would suggest you to buy the iPad Air, without even thinking.

  • somedumbgamer

    Thank you. I have decided on the air...but then you threw me off with the iPad pro speculation.

    My main concern regarding an iPad pro would be if my library of iPad apps would work on the iPad pros OS?

    • tomj315

      I don't really know, but I think that apple will have some sort of media transferring.

    • tomj315

      But there's a chance that you will not be able to transfer your data, just from a Mac. But it's worth the waiting, because if it will not have an iPad support, you can just buy the iPad Air 2.

      • somedumbgamer

        I think I'll try and sell my 3 and get a 128gb air. I need the storage and hate how hot my 3 gets. Thanks for helping me decide between the mini and air though

  • Aaron Timmer

    After debating for several days, my wife and I decided to get two full-sized Airs in 64G. She is upgrading from a 16GB 2nd-Gen, and I from a Asus Transformer Infinity TF-700T. The reason we picked the Air over the Mini was that, if we picked Minis, somewhere down the line we'd come across a friend or relative who had the 9.7" Retina and suffer screen envy. I don't plan to keep my iPad in my pocket, and an Air will slip into my briefcase just as easily as a Mini.