• Author arn
  • Posted On2010-03-12 08:58:36
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Apple has started accepting pre-orders on the Apple iPad for delivery in April. The Wi-Fi version of the iPad will be the first to ship by April 3rd while the WiFi + 3G versions will follow in late April.

Apple announced the iPad originally in January and represents a larger tablet-sized device running Apple's iPhone operating system. The iPad has seen a lot of excitement among developers with several planned game launches designed specifically for the device.

  • john doe

    Hope to see some great and exclusive Games for the iPad.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Hope you don't mind universal games that run on both. Especially if they smartly adjust how it plays/looks on each device. :)

  • john doe

    Hope to see some great and exclusive Games for the iPad.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Hope you don't mind universal games that run on both. Especially if they smartly adjust how it plays/looks on each device. :)

  • Johnny82

    Seriously, the iPad is just a basic device. The early adopters are going to be upset when they see what a more capable tablet can do. Regardless of OS, the iPad is missing many great features. I'm not going to bother listing them as Apple's religious followers would dispute them anyway.

    • http://nodpad.com/ MidianGTX

      I agree. Like it or not, the iPad has already seen a worrying amount of negative feedback both from the media and consumers (and even a few developers). There's no doubt it'll suit some peoples needs perfectly, but the rest of us will still be thinking about what could have been.

      • GodSon

        Couldn't agree more. I'm glad Apple lagged to get this out because my impulse slowly dwindled for the same reason I waited to get a iPod Touch 2G. I will be patiently waiting for the additions/tweaks in the 2G version of the iPad then I will be picking it up. Still patiently waiting on the iPod Touch 4G to surface too. xD

      • RhythmMan

        agree, I was thinking about getting one until I found out what it does, more importantly, what it DOESNT do. Glad Apple gave me time to research the iPad, now I can save my money :-)

    • http://www.dot8studio.com Pierre

      I am not sure what excitement arn is referring too. I cannot share any of it.

      It's just funny to see how expensive those flash modules are. I wonder if they are gold coated? Pricing of 499, 549 and 600 would be more appropriate.

    • Deewin

      to me the ipad is an impractical device that's an app goldmine to program for because there's no jailbreak yet.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        I can't speak for every developer, but I'd wager that most expect the iPad to be jailbroken on day one.

        The optimist in me says that the excitement over the platform is the new real estate the iPad screen has and the ability to take more complete advantage of the touch interface... and for game devs the fact that 30% of the screen won't be covered by thumbs while you play. Plus, the added performance will be nice, and apps can be so much more ambitious in general. Again, because of the screen area but also the ability to deal with all types of files -- not just photos and music.

    • tonyunreal

      If it's their money, why do you care so much? There are a lot of people who were happy about their first generation of iPhones and iPod Touches without any apps, with more than 100,000 of apps at launch the iPad couldn't get any worse than that.

      • Gates

        Because it promotes the idea that a lackluster product is OK by the consumer as long as someone else hasn't provided something else better

      • Alex

        It's only "lackluster" by your own standards and bias. Myself, and many many other people, are perfectly happy with it and will be pre-ordering. The negative feedback is overblown--the silent majority, those who are fine with the iPad as it comes right now, have no reason to log on to the internet and complain.

      • Johnny82

        Don't get me wrong, I think it will sell well. It will do what little it does do well also.

        I'm also not saying Apple won't make the next version a little closer to being what the rest of us want either. For that matter, we don't all want the same things. People state they wan't a webcam, I don't care for that. But on a device such as this, which will possibly be used for gaming, wheres the expandable memory?!

        Also, the flash thing was never an issue for me until recently. There are a few sites that I could not use because they were done in flash. The most recent site was Bad Company 2, which has a veteran link for sign up. Its all flash! I love the site with the flash menus and all that, but I certainly wouldn't change the experience I enjoy on my PC so I can view things on my iPhone. HTML5 can't replace everything flash does.

      • RhythmMan

        personally, i like to inform people of making a potentially bad purchase. yes, it's their money but i used to sell retail electronics and i alsways looked out for the customer...making a buck wasn't my first priority. it comes down to apple finding a market, if they do then good for them.

      • thewiirocks

        @Johnny82 - Speaking as a professional developer who makes a living off of HTML5 and Flash, there is absolutely nothing that Flash can do that HTML5 can't. In fact, 90% of what flash can do can be done with HTML4. Anyone who tells you otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

    • Bob

      It's basic, THAT'S THE POINT jackass. Obviously the iPad isn't for you. But for a lot of people who just surf the Web, listen to music, watch video, and play games, the iPad makes perfect sense.

      People like you drive me crazy. You must think you're so smart you can use your shitty Winbloze machine, tweaking shit. Nobody cares. Most people just want to get on the damn Web and check their e-mail. The iPad makes perfect sense.

      Hey blackHOrse.... you're an idiot. Fuck Flash. It fucking blows.

      As for Midian, and what CONSUMERS have touched the god damn thing that hasn't even been released to the public yet? Please... do tell. Thought so...

      Quite frankly, most of the comments here totally don't understand the shift iPad will bring. All you jackholes squint at your iPhone screens to do things, but don't see the value in the iPad? Please.

      • RhythmMan

        Bob, wow calm down. why so emotional? no one is saying you're useless, just this electronic gagit that apple is trying to sell. calling people names is childish, and saying Flash is somehow bad makes little sense, since it's the webs leading movie and media player.

      • SiDCrAzY

        A lot of people get really upset when you "diss" their favorite game/company/gadget for some reason. It's stupid, but it happens. Maybe they should have their heads checked.

    • RhythmMan

      Let's not forget that the main appeal of the iPhone and iPod is the portability. Allowing people to purchase and play apps at anytime. I don't see how this bulky device will go mainstream in anyway, even Apple admitted it didn't expect market saturation to be close to that of the other iDevices.

      Other than developers (hoping to cash in) I don't see the attraction to this at all. I have a PC tablet that works with multi-touch the same way, running Windows 7, I can play tons of free flash-based games online. I could also list several reasons why this is an inferior product for the price, but I expect people who have money to burn will quickly buy this, THEN realize their error later.

      I was hoping for a full-powered tablet that ran apps, and had a full OS. Maybe someday.

      • RhythmMan

        Btw, the lack of innovation on Apple's part is uncommon. It backs their claims that they weren't expecting that high of addoption rate, hence the lack of effort to add new things to it, besides ebooks and a few little upgrades. People who are excited about the iPad, PLEASE LIST YOUR REASONS. I'd just like to know what's going through your heads. Thanks :-)

    • RhythmMan

      @Alex, please tell me what the "silent majority" is looking for in this product. Please don't be silent, you could help others realize some potential in the machine that the vocal majoirty are not seeing. I honestly believe there is no argument for it, and that's why most people aren't speaking up. But that's my opinion, would love to be proven wrong, I was really hoping this would be something interesting, help me see it better from your view.

  • Johnny82

    Seriously, the iPad is just a basic device. The early adopters are going to be upset when they see what a more capable tablet can do. Regardless of OS, the iPad is missing many great features. I'm not going to bother listing them as Apple's religious followers would dispute them anyway.

    • http://nodpad.com/ MidianGTX

      I agree. Like it or not, the iPad has already seen a worrying amount of negative feedback both from the media and consumers (and even a few developers). There's no doubt it'll suit some peoples needs perfectly, but the rest of us will still be thinking about what could have been.

      • GodSon

        Couldn't agree more. I'm glad Apple lagged to get this out because my impulse slowly dwindled for the same reason I waited to get a iPod Touch 2G. I will be patiently waiting for the additions/tweaks in the 2G version of the iPad then I will be picking it up. Still patiently waiting on the iPod Touch 4G to surface too. xD

      • RhythmMan

        agree, I was thinking about getting one until I found out what it does, more importantly, what it DOESNT do. Glad Apple gave me time to research the iPad, now I can save my money :-)

    • http://www.dot8studio.com Pierre

      I am not sure what excitement arn is referring too. I cannot share any of it.

      It's just funny to see how expensive those flash modules are. I wonder if they are gold coated? Pricing of 499, 549 and 600 would be more appropriate.

    • Deewin

      to me the ipad is an impractical device that's an app goldmine to program for because there's no jailbreak yet.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        I can't speak for every developer, but I'd wager that most expect the iPad to be jailbroken on day one.

        The optimist in me says that the excitement over the platform is the new real estate the iPad screen has and the ability to take more complete advantage of the touch interface... and for game devs the fact that 30% of the screen won't be covered by thumbs while you play. Plus, the added performance will be nice, and apps can be so much more ambitious in general. Again, because of the screen area but also the ability to deal with all types of files -- not just photos and music.

    • tonyunreal

      If it's their money, why do you care so much? There are a lot of people who were happy about their first generation of iPhones and iPod Touches without any apps, with more than 100,000 of apps at launch the iPad couldn't get any worse than that.

      • Gates

        Because it promotes the idea that a lackluster product is OK by the consumer as long as someone else hasn't provided something else better

      • Alex

        It's only "lackluster" by your own standards and bias. Myself, and many many other people, are perfectly happy with it and will be pre-ordering. The negative feedback is overblown--the silent majority, those who are fine with the iPad as it comes right now, have no reason to log on to the internet and complain.

      • Johnny82

        Don't get me wrong, I think it will sell well. It will do what little it does do well also.

        I'm also not saying Apple won't make the next version a little closer to being what the rest of us want either. For that matter, we don't all want the same things. People state they wan't a webcam, I don't care for that. But on a device such as this, which will possibly be used for gaming, wheres the expandable memory?!

        Also, the flash thing was never an issue for me until recently. There are a few sites that I could not use because they were done in flash. The most recent site was Bad Company 2, which has a veteran link for sign up. Its all flash! I love the site with the flash menus and all that, but I certainly wouldn't change the experience I enjoy on my PC so I can view things on my iPhone. HTML5 can't replace everything flash does.

      • RhythmMan

        personally, i like to inform people of making a potentially bad purchase. yes, it's their money but i used to sell retail electronics and i alsways looked out for the customer...making a buck wasn't my first priority. it comes down to apple finding a market, if they do then good for them.

      • thewiirocks

        @Johnny82 - Speaking as a professional developer who makes a living off of HTML5 and Flash, there is absolutely nothing that Flash can do that HTML5 can't. In fact, 90% of what flash can do can be done with HTML4. Anyone who tells you otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

    • Bob

      It's basic, THAT'S THE POINT jackass. Obviously the iPad isn't for you. But for a lot of people who just surf the Web, listen to music, watch video, and play games, the iPad makes perfect sense.

      People like you drive me crazy. You must think you're so smart you can use your shitty Winbloze machine, tweaking shit. Nobody cares. Most people just want to get on the damn Web and check their e-mail. The iPad makes perfect sense.

      Hey blackHOrse.... you're an idiot. Fuck Flash. It fucking blows.

      As for Midian, and what CONSUMERS have touched the god damn thing that hasn't even been released to the public yet? Please... do tell. Thought so...

      Quite frankly, most of the comments here totally don't understand the shift iPad will bring. All you jackholes squint at your iPhone screens to do things, but don't see the value in the iPad? Please.

      • RhythmMan

        Bob, wow calm down. why so emotional? no one is saying you're useless, just this electronic gagit that apple is trying to sell. calling people names is childish, and saying Flash is somehow bad makes little sense, since it's the webs leading movie and media player.

      • SiDCrAzY

        A lot of people get really upset when you "diss" their favorite game/company/gadget for some reason. It's stupid, but it happens. Maybe they should have their heads checked.

    • RhythmMan

      Let's not forget that the main appeal of the iPhone and iPod is the portability. Allowing people to purchase and play apps at anytime. I don't see how this bulky device will go mainstream in anyway, even Apple admitted it didn't expect market saturation to be close to that of the other iDevices.

      Other than developers (hoping to cash in) I don't see the attraction to this at all. I have a PC tablet that works with multi-touch the same way, running Windows 7, I can play tons of free flash-based games online. I could also list several reasons why this is an inferior product for the price, but I expect people who have money to burn will quickly buy this, THEN realize their error later.

      I was hoping for a full-powered tablet that ran apps, and had a full OS. Maybe someday.

      • RhythmMan

        Btw, the lack of innovation on Apple's part is uncommon. It backs their claims that they weren't expecting that high of addoption rate, hence the lack of effort to add new things to it, besides ebooks and a few little upgrades. People who are excited about the iPad, PLEASE LIST YOUR REASONS. I'd just like to know what's going through your heads. Thanks :-)

    • RhythmMan

      @Alex, please tell me what the "silent majority" is looking for in this product. Please don't be silent, you could help others realize some potential in the machine that the vocal majoirty are not seeing. I honestly believe there is no argument for it, and that's why most people aren't speaking up. But that's my opinion, would love to be proven wrong, I was really hoping this would be something interesting, help me see it better from your view.

  • Osmiral

    I find it kind of funny that the iPhone comes with just as much memory as the iPad, even though the iPad is bigger, and more basic than the iPhone.

  • Jack

    iPad will be such a fail, there's no doubt about it.

    • Shin

      The iPad is a huge joke

  • Osmiral

    I find it kind of funny that the iPhone comes with just as much memory as the iPad, even though the iPad is bigger, and more basic than the iPhone.

  • Jack

    iPad will be such a fail, there's no doubt about it.

    • Shin

      The iPad is a huge joke

  • Grant

    If it used OSX and had flash support and a built in camera then I'd want one.

    However I don't want just what is a big Ipod Touch when I could just get an Iphone which has more functionality and you can actually fit it in your pocket.

    They make a big deal about it but really who can you browse the internet without flash? 90% of sites have some kinda flash support and browsing the internet on my Iphone is annoying. I mean you can forgive the Iphone because it is just a phone, but I can't justify it for this device.

    I could just buy a small laptop and be able to do everything I want. Where as the Ipad just uses the Ipod OS so frigging you're restricted and can barely do anything with it.

    I just hope the Iphone 4G comes with a camera flash and zoom because otherwise I'm going to upgrade to another make.

    • Bob

      iPhone OS is OS X.
      If you're saying it should run full Mac OS X, then you clearly have no understanding of what the iPad is.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        Um... the iPhone OS is _based_ on the core of Mac OS X. This has many great advantages, but there would be a tremendous difference --a lot of it bad, imo-- if you had the entirety of Mac OS X on an iPad. For one, there would be no touch input. lol. ;)

  • Grant

    If it used OSX and had flash support and a built in camera then I'd want one.

    However I don't want just what is a big Ipod Touch when I could just get an Iphone which has more functionality and you can actually fit it in your pocket.

    They make a big deal about it but really who can you browse the internet without flash? 90% of sites have some kinda flash support and browsing the internet on my Iphone is annoying. I mean you can forgive the Iphone because it is just a phone, but I can't justify it for this device.

    I could just buy a small laptop and be able to do everything I want. Where as the Ipad just uses the Ipod OS so frigging you're restricted and can barely do anything with it.

    I just hope the Iphone 4G comes with a camera flash and zoom because otherwise I'm going to upgrade to another make.

    • Bob

      iPhone OS is OS X.
      If you're saying it should run full Mac OS X, then you clearly have no understanding of what the iPad is.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        Um... the iPhone OS is _based_ on the core of Mac OS X. This has many great advantages, but there would be a tremendous difference --a lot of it bad, imo-- if you had the entirety of Mac OS X on an iPad. For one, there would be no touch input. lol. ;)

  • http://xenoms.com/ tsj5j

    Let's review.

    I'm paying double the price of a netbook for a tablet, which can barely do half the things a netbook can, and still have to be locked into Apple's draconian app market?

    No thanks, I need to wear my "I'm a sheep waiting to be fleeced" t-shirt before I'll ever find a reason to buy this.
    I recommend people to vote with their wallet and tell Apple what a horrible idea this is.

    This is just an enlarged iPod Touch, minus the portability and plus a 100% apple fanboy tax.

    If they placed OSX on it, I'd reconsider. This is just an enlarged i

    • http://xenoms.com/ tsj5j

      My reply turned out wrong.

      Basically, the last statement is that it needs OSX, Flash, more video formats compatibility (from OSX - eg. AVI, DIVX, RMVB) and a camera before its worth its price tag.

    • Sander

      Ok i'll bite :) list 150,000 things you can do with a netbook?
      http://www.apple.com/ipad/app-store/

      • Bill

        If you mean the games, their better on mac osx, and if you mean any other app on the iphone, the general consensus is that it will be more mature on a notebook. And $500 for any device not running flash is ridiculous.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        But in a small form factor, apps made for desktop/notebook aren't very good on a net book... at all. The iPad will have apps made specifically for its form factor and this is part of the "magic" that will make people suddenly understand why they might actually _want_ one of those tablets that have been around for years.

        Just sayin'.

    • Bob

      Totally clueless.

      Netbooks suck at everything. They're awful.

      Most people just want to surf the Web, check e-mail, listen to music, watch movies... all the things the iPad does.

      The App Store is one of the reasons the iPhone is so successful. How's that Android doing? Oh right, it sucks. People like you drive me crazy. You have no concept of why Apple is so successful.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        Android seems to be doing just fine to great, however. One reason is because it has that same model of getting devs to write specific apps for its form factor rather than shoehorn in a desktop app.

  • http://xenoms.com/ tsj5j

    Let's review.

    I'm paying double the price of a netbook for a tablet, which can barely do half the things a netbook can, and still have to be locked into Apple's draconian app market?

    No thanks, I need to wear my "I'm a sheep waiting to be fleeced" t-shirt before I'll ever find a reason to buy this.
    I recommend people to vote with their wallet and tell Apple what a horrible idea this is.

    This is just an enlarged iPod Touch, minus the portability and plus a 100% apple fanboy tax.

    If they placed OSX on it, I'd reconsider. This is just an enlarged i

    • http://xenoms.com/ tsj5j

      My reply turned out wrong.

      Basically, the last statement is that it needs OSX, Flash, more video formats compatibility (from OSX - eg. AVI, DIVX, RMVB) and a camera before its worth its price tag.

    • Sander

      Ok i'll bite :) list 150,000 things you can do with a netbook?
      http://www.apple.com/ipad/app-store/

      • Bill

        If you mean the games, their better on mac osx, and if you mean any other app on the iphone, the general consensus is that it will be more mature on a notebook. And $500 for any device not running flash is ridiculous.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        But in a small form factor, apps made for desktop/notebook aren't very good on a net book... at all. The iPad will have apps made specifically for its form factor and this is part of the "magic" that will make people suddenly understand why they might actually _want_ one of those tablets that have been around for years.

        Just sayin'.

    • Bob

      Totally clueless.

      Netbooks suck at everything. They're awful.

      Most people just want to surf the Web, check e-mail, listen to music, watch movies... all the things the iPad does.

      The App Store is one of the reasons the iPhone is so successful. How's that Android doing? Oh right, it sucks. People like you drive me crazy. You have no concept of why Apple is so successful.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        Android seems to be doing just fine to great, however. One reason is because it has that same model of getting devs to write specific apps for its form factor rather than shoehorn in a desktop app.

  • http://www.silentrocco.com SIlent Rocco

    I select the next iPhone.
    Don't want to buy new jeans with huge pockets ;)

  • http://www.silentrocco.com SIlent Rocco

    I select the next iPhone.
    Don't want to buy new jeans with huge pockets ;)

  • http://musicgamespickles.blogspot.com/ Robert M.

    The iPad's not for us... Apples going after the average consumer. But I'm still picking one up! I have no problem with an oversized iPod Touch!!! Also I'm in college so I'll have all my text books on it...

  • http://musicgamespickles.blogspot.com/ Robert M.

    The iPad's not for us... Apples going after the average consumer. But I'm still picking one up! I have no problem with an oversized iPod Touch!!! Also I'm in college so I'll have all my text books on it...

  • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

    I've reserved mine for pick-up. Might want to mention that option in the story. It wasn't easily found right at 8:30 (eastern) but it's on the front page (apple.com) now.

    It's the nicer way. You get it when you go to the store in the morning and share in the experience like-minded buyers.

    As for the negativity in the comments on this story that is targeted to people who care about the pre-release.

    I'm quite sure I won't be disappointed. I'm keenly aware of the limitations and possibilities (I'm an iPhone developer) and my wife and I can't wait. We know pretty much exactly how it will fit into our lifestyle and it will get that 10 hour battery life used up probably every day.

    Some people get caught up in this frustration "but it won't replace my computer/laptop", but I don't want or need it to. Sure, it's not for everyone, but the naysaying often makes me giggle. Happened with the iPod, happened with the iPod nano and shuffle, happened with the iPhone, and now it's happening again.

    Not that I expect Apple to always get it right. Apple is takes risks enough that they won't get it every time -- Apple TV anyone? -- but I find the naysaying on this device particularly silly as it has lit a fire under the abysmal tablet market by the simple rumor of its existence.

    Me? I'm practically giddy for April 3rd, thank you.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      palm to face on some of the typos in that post. lol. I'm just excited, I guess.

    • MicroByte

      Very well stated.

      When the iPad was first announced, I was excited and was ready to make the purchase right then. However, the gap between that time and now has made me realize that the iPad wouldn't fit in as well in my lifestyle.

      The problem here is that my iPod Touch fits in TOO well. The fact that it's always with me and is available the moment I need it changed my mind. While I still am excited and looking forward to seeing what the iPad can do, I just can't honestly justify the purchase right now.

      I truly hope that you enjoy the iPad and expect you to come back with full impressions and a million pictures once you get it! :p

      • tonyunreal

        @MicroByte

        One thing is almost for sure, that the ipad DOES have more power in computing than any current iDevices. If it really does games like the iPad version of NFS:S EA demonstrated at the announcement event, then it's potentially a good gaming device in the living room for people who don't play consoles. Can't wait for Touch Arcade to release tons of hands-on video after April 3rd.

    • DotComCTO

      Personally, I want to get one for my mother. She's in her early 70's and has never really used a computer. I think the iPad is perfect for someone like her. She says she wants to get on the internet, have email, look at photos, etc. They're all very basic needs. The thing is...putting her in front of a Mac or PC would be crazy to do. I can't imaging how much tech support I'd have to provide! The iPad will be very simple for her to use - especially with a keyboard (or the keyboard dock).

      As some have said, the iPad may not be for everyone, but there are segments of the population where this makes perfect sense.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        I think what many people who aren't grandmas value in a device like this is that they can do what they want with it without exercising their brain past the grandma-level of computer understanding to get use out of it.

        In other words, I am a developer who has spread his skills way too thin on all sorts of computer endeavors over decades from digital art, music, to animation, cgi, compositing, screenwriting. I'm sort of tired of complex interfaces, okay? lol.

        So... the iPad really appeals to my desire to have a relaxing device for many casual activities usually reserved for computers or cramped pocket devices. I'm not getting rid of anything to make room for this device and that's why many of these "but it doesn't do what product A or B does" arguments just mean nothing to me, personally.

        Some people will always want a device to tinker with a tweak like an classic car or a programming algorithm. I like that stuff, too. But it's nice to have a reliable car with good gas mileage and some well-tested algorithms too.

    • RhythmMan

      The best thing the iPad has done is make more people aware of the tablet market. For that I thank Apple, even if the iPad doesn't dominate it will "light the fire" as you said.

  • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

    I've reserved mine for pick-up. Might want to mention that option in the story. It wasn't easily found right at 8:30 (eastern) but it's on the front page (apple.com) now.

    It's the nicer way. You get it when you go to the store in the morning and share in the experience like-minded buyers.

    As for the negativity in the comments on this story that is targeted to people who care about the pre-release.

    I'm quite sure I won't be disappointed. I'm keenly aware of the limitations and possibilities (I'm an iPhone developer) and my wife and I can't wait. We know pretty much exactly how it will fit into our lifestyle and it will get that 10 hour battery life used up probably every day.

    Some people get caught up in this frustration "but it won't replace my computer/laptop", but I don't want or need it to. Sure, it's not for everyone, but the naysaying often makes me giggle. Happened with the iPod, happened with the iPod nano and shuffle, happened with the iPhone, and now it's happening again.

    Not that I expect Apple to always get it right. Apple is takes risks enough that they won't get it every time -- Apple TV anyone? -- but I find the naysaying on this device particularly silly as it has lit a fire under the abysmal tablet market by the simple rumor of its existence.

    Me? I'm practically giddy for April 3rd, thank you.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      palm to face on some of the typos in that post. lol. I'm just excited, I guess.

    • MicroByte

      Very well stated.

      When the iPad was first announced, I was excited and was ready to make the purchase right then. However, the gap between that time and now has made me realize that the iPad wouldn't fit in as well in my lifestyle.

      The problem here is that my iPod Touch fits in TOO well. The fact that it's always with me and is available the moment I need it changed my mind. While I still am excited and looking forward to seeing what the iPad can do, I just can't honestly justify the purchase right now.

      I truly hope that you enjoy the iPad and expect you to come back with full impressions and a million pictures once you get it! :p

      • tonyunreal

        @MicroByte

        One thing is almost for sure, that the ipad DOES have more power in computing than any current iDevices. If it really does games like the iPad version of NFS:S EA demonstrated at the announcement event, then it's potentially a good gaming device in the living room for people who don't play consoles. Can't wait for Touch Arcade to release tons of hands-on video after April 3rd.

    • DotComCTO

      Personally, I want to get one for my mother. She's in her early 70's and has never really used a computer. I think the iPad is perfect for someone like her. She says she wants to get on the internet, have email, look at photos, etc. They're all very basic needs. The thing is...putting her in front of a Mac or PC would be crazy to do. I can't imaging how much tech support I'd have to provide! The iPad will be very simple for her to use - especially with a keyboard (or the keyboard dock).

      As some have said, the iPad may not be for everyone, but there are segments of the population where this makes perfect sense.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        I think what many people who aren't grandmas value in a device like this is that they can do what they want with it without exercising their brain past the grandma-level of computer understanding to get use out of it.

        In other words, I am a developer who has spread his skills way too thin on all sorts of computer endeavors over decades from digital art, music, to animation, cgi, compositing, screenwriting. I'm sort of tired of complex interfaces, okay? lol.

        So... the iPad really appeals to my desire to have a relaxing device for many casual activities usually reserved for computers or cramped pocket devices. I'm not getting rid of anything to make room for this device and that's why many of these "but it doesn't do what product A or B does" arguments just mean nothing to me, personally.

        Some people will always want a device to tinker with a tweak like an classic car or a programming algorithm. I like that stuff, too. But it's nice to have a reliable car with good gas mileage and some well-tested algorithms too.

    • RhythmMan

      The best thing the iPad has done is make more people aware of the tablet market. For that I thank Apple, even if the iPad doesn't dominate it will "light the fire" as you said.

  • Robert

    I think it will be successful at first with early adopters, people who mostly read (or kindle readers), and people who just want a large and convenient Internet device they can keep on the coffee table. This market could be huge.

    As far as apple goes, their business model relies on launching a basic product and then making enticing upgrades each year so the early adopters keep upgrading.

    As fat as the size of hard drives, what does that have to do with the screen size of this verse an iPhone or itouch? Just because the screen is bigger doesn't mean the hard drive has to be lol. The memory size should be based on how people use it.

    I'm only going to get a 16g hard drive wifi because my wife is going to use it for a reader in the living room. We keep all our media on a server so we done need a lot of memory on the device. I'll use it to play game but I'm not buying it specifically for that.

  • Robert

    I think it will be successful at first with early adopters, people who mostly read (or kindle readers), and people who just want a large and convenient Internet device they can keep on the coffee table. This market could be huge.

    As far as apple goes, their business model relies on launching a basic product and then making enticing upgrades each year so the early adopters keep upgrading.

    As fat as the size of hard drives, what does that have to do with the screen size of this verse an iPhone or itouch? Just because the screen is bigger doesn't mean the hard drive has to be lol. The memory size should be based on how people use it.

    I'm only going to get a 16g hard drive wifi because my wife is going to use it for a reader in the living room. We keep all our media on a server so we done need a lot of memory on the device. I'll use it to play game but I'm not buying it specifically for that.

  • Jindo Fox

    Those who say "it's just a big iPod Touch" don't seem to understand how awesome the iPod Touch is. I don't care about the so-called missing features at all, because being 1.5 lbs with a 10-hour battery life, no keyboard clutter, and a beautiful touchscreen running stuff from the App Store *is* the feature I want. I don't get why people are down on it -- personally, I don't really care whether or not it is a hit or a flop (I'm thinking it will hit big), because it does what I want and it looks gorgeous.

    • swarmster

      The best analogy I've heard is that saying "What's the big deal about the iPad, it's just a big iPod touch" is like saying "What's the big deal about swimming pools, they're just big bathtubs".

      Now, I love my iPod touch enough that even if the iPad could do nothing else it would be awesome. But the bigger screen will have much more of an impact on apps and user experience than a lot of people seem to think. And the experience is really the point of these "new class" of devices, not the specs and how many ports they have.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        ++
        Like that analogy, too.

        As far as games go, don't forget that more people will play games on this at their leisure -- sitting in a recliner, lounging on the couch. That's a very different market than the little guys where most play in transition -- on a bus, in a line, right before the go to sleep.

        I think the games on this will be fantastic and, best yet, you'll be able to easily share them with someone sitting next to you.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        Forgot to mention I've used another analogy: It's like complaining about laptops by saying, "What's the big deal it's just a smaller desktop." Hadn't heard the bathtub/pool when until now. :)

      • Johnny82

        Hold on a second. Your quote:

        "The best analogy I've heard is that saying "What's the big deal about the iPad, it's just a big iPod touch" is like saying "What's the big deal about swimming pools, they're just big bathtubs"."

        That makes no sense. You can't compare those two things properly. For one, going from a bathtub to a pool is a big change!!! In the pool you suddenly have move freedom to move! You can play games, swim, dive.

        Going from an iPod Touch to a big iPod Touch doesn't add anything. You can only do the same things. Its just a bigger screen. Nothing new.

      • RhythmMan

        I agree with Johnny82, that analogy is horrible. You're assuming that the "pool" contains more inside. The iPad does NOT contain more. A big pool with the same amount of water (content) would be useless, lol.

        To use your poor analogy, hot tub vs pool, the iPad is the pool with the same amount of water in it...just a bigger container. Apple missed the potential to fill the bigger pool with new water that the iPhone/iPod doesn't already have.

      • swarmster

        Johnny82 and RhythmMan, if you had read the rest of my comment, you would have seen that I think the analogy illustrates how I think most people are vastly underestimating the benefits of "[more] freedom to move" within an interface as powerful as multitouch. Which is exactly what you proceeded to do.

        We're not talking about upgrading from a 13" to a 17" laptop here.

    • Ben!

      That's a terrible analogy. It's cute and snappy, but then there's the little issue of it not making any sense in its application to this discussion.

      The iPad is a big piece of impracticality with NO logical application in anybody's life. It's a cool little conversation piece, but it's really, really weak from a technical standpoint and its only real hook is that it looks great. If you're a vapid enough person to find something like that interesting, have at it.

  • Jindo Fox

    Those who say "it's just a big iPod Touch" don't seem to understand how awesome the iPod Touch is. I don't care about the so-called missing features at all, because being 1.5 lbs with a 10-hour battery life, no keyboard clutter, and a beautiful touchscreen running stuff from the App Store *is* the feature I want. I don't get why people are down on it -- personally, I don't really care whether or not it is a hit or a flop (I'm thinking it will hit big), because it does what I want and it looks gorgeous.

    • swarmster

      The best analogy I've heard is that saying "What's the big deal about the iPad, it's just a big iPod touch" is like saying "What's the big deal about swimming pools, they're just big bathtubs".

      Now, I love my iPod touch enough that even if the iPad could do nothing else it would be awesome. But the bigger screen will have much more of an impact on apps and user experience than a lot of people seem to think. And the experience is really the point of these "new class" of devices, not the specs and how many ports they have.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        ++
        Like that analogy, too.

        As far as games go, don't forget that more people will play games on this at their leisure -- sitting in a recliner, lounging on the couch. That's a very different market than the little guys where most play in transition -- on a bus, in a line, right before the go to sleep.

        I think the games on this will be fantastic and, best yet, you'll be able to easily share them with someone sitting next to you.

      • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

        Forgot to mention I've used another analogy: It's like complaining about laptops by saying, "What's the big deal it's just a smaller desktop." Hadn't heard the bathtub/pool when until now. :)

      • Johnny82

        Hold on a second. Your quote:

        "The best analogy I've heard is that saying "What's the big deal about the iPad, it's just a big iPod touch" is like saying "What's the big deal about swimming pools, they're just big bathtubs"."

        That makes no sense. You can't compare those two things properly. For one, going from a bathtub to a pool is a big change!!! In the pool you suddenly have move freedom to move! You can play games, swim, dive.

        Going from an iPod Touch to a big iPod Touch doesn't add anything. You can only do the same things. Its just a bigger screen. Nothing new.

      • RhythmMan

        I agree with Johnny82, that analogy is horrible. You're assuming that the "pool" contains more inside. The iPad does NOT contain more. A big pool with the same amount of water (content) would be useless, lol.

        To use your poor analogy, hot tub vs pool, the iPad is the pool with the same amount of water in it...just a bigger container. Apple missed the potential to fill the bigger pool with new water that the iPhone/iPod doesn't already have.

      • swarmster

        Johnny82 and RhythmMan, if you had read the rest of my comment, you would have seen that I think the analogy illustrates how I think most people are vastly underestimating the benefits of "[more] freedom to move" within an interface as powerful as multitouch. Which is exactly what you proceeded to do.

        We're not talking about upgrading from a 13" to a 17" laptop here.

    • Ben!

      That's a terrible analogy. It's cute and snappy, but then there's the little issue of it not making any sense in its application to this discussion.

      The iPad is a big piece of impracticality with NO logical application in anybody's life. It's a cool little conversation piece, but it's really, really weak from a technical standpoint and its only real hook is that it looks great. If you're a vapid enough person to find something like that interesting, have at it.

  • http://www.GalleyTech.com/ Galley

    The iPad is going to be huger than huge. It's the future of personal computing.

    • http://www.silentrocco.com SIlent Rocco

      Wow....

  • http://www.GalleyTech.com/ Galley

    The iPad is going to be huger than huge. It's the future of personal computing.

    • http://www.silentrocco.com SIlent Rocco

      Wow....

  • jack

    Like it or not, people are going to buy this thing (even early reports show a greater amount of interest in this than the iPhone when it first came out).

    A lot of people like to put it down, because it looks as if they know loads about the industry. If you look back at the early reviews of the iPhone or the iPod, people criticized them like crazy.

    Of course, only time will tell wether or not it fails, but my money is on the fact that Apple are an experienced, clever and successful company and that they know what they are doing - criticism or not.

    • RhythmMan

      eh, can't believe polls....they're often flawed. useually targeted at a select group of consumers. not the mass public. sure, 90% of hardcore apple fans might say they have interest in buying an ipad. but im waiting to see what apple can offer to the public who demands more from their devices.

  • jack

    Like it or not, people are going to buy this thing (even early reports show a greater amount of interest in this than the iPhone when it first came out).

    A lot of people like to put it down, because it looks as if they know loads about the industry. If you look back at the early reviews of the iPhone or the iPod, people criticized them like crazy.

    Of course, only time will tell wether or not it fails, but my money is on the fact that Apple are an experienced, clever and successful company and that they know what they are doing - criticism or not.

    • RhythmMan

      eh, can't believe polls....they're often flawed. useually targeted at a select group of consumers. not the mass public. sure, 90% of hardcore apple fans might say they have interest in buying an ipad. but im waiting to see what apple can offer to the public who demands more from their devices.

  • Taragon

    For me the ipad is like a $10 game, it may be the best game
    in the world but I like to wait and see the user reviews first. Good luck to people buying I hope it's the best thing ever.

  • http://IKEA Taragon

    For me the ipad is like a $10 game, it may be the best game
    in the world but I like to wait and see the user reviews first. Good luck to people buying I hope it's the best thing ever.

  • Howard

    Just don't get it, sorry. Thank god the king has a new set of clothes at Apple otherwise I think these might be left on the shelf...

  • Howard

    Just don't get it, sorry. Thank god the king has a new set of clothes at Apple otherwise I think these might be left on the shelf...

  • nippyjun

    All the nay-sayers really want one.

    • Scott

      Says the fanboy who'd buy a gold plated turd that fell from Steve Jobs' ass.

      • Rachel

        Does it run apps?

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Some nay-sayers may want one but are deterred by the price, I guess.
      Most nay-sayers probably don't want one at all.
      Some may change their mind once they get their hands on it, but we'll never know unless they tell us.
      The only one's that concern me are nay-sayers who will feel disinclined to change their mind against overwhelming evidence they'd like it because of their own pride -- after all, they did all this nay-saying. If anyone finds them self in this position in the future I say get over it and have fun with the iPad. ;D

    • RhythmMan

      weird logic....just like all the people who don't like nazis want to be one? thats a stupid analogy. people just disagree

  • nippyjun

    All the nay-sayers really want one.

    • Scott

      Says the fanboy who'd buy a gold plated turd that fell from Steve Jobs' ass.

      • Rachel

        Does it run apps?

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Some nay-sayers may want one but are deterred by the price, I guess.
      Most nay-sayers probably don't want one at all.
      Some may change their mind once they get their hands on it, but we'll never know unless they tell us.
      The only one's that concern me are nay-sayers who will feel disinclined to change their mind against overwhelming evidence they'd like it because of their own pride -- after all, they did all this nay-saying. If anyone finds them self in this position in the future I say get over it and have fun with the iPad. ;D

    • RhythmMan

      weird logic....just like all the people who don't like nazis want to be one? thats a stupid analogy. people just disagree

  • MrMuesli

    Apple are clearly on some sort of mission to monopolize the casual computing world. But if they want my vote then they need to sort out iTunes, and take a leaf out of Amazon's book. The selection of movies (in the UK) for example is a pretty sad state of affairs. Buying one of these iPads (and for what it is it's not cheap) only to be restricted to iTunes' offerings is a bit of a mug's game at present if you ask me. I'll hover until both the current webcamless iPad and iTunes come up to par.

    • MrMuesli

      Also, this whole Flash thing is unfortunate for us I find. This is Clash of the Titans (Adobe vs. Apple) and we, the mere mortal customers, are caught in the crossfire. I personally value Apple's products enough to live without Flash though tbh.

  • MrMuesli

    Apple are clearly on some sort of mission to monopolize the casual computing world. But if they want my vote then they need to sort out iTunes, and take a leaf out of Amazon's book. The selection of movies (in the UK) for example is a pretty sad state of affairs. Buying one of these iPads (and for what it is it's not cheap) only to be restricted to iTunes' offerings is a bit of a mug's game at present if you ask me. I'll hover until both the current webcamless iPad and iTunes come up to par.

    • MrMuesli

      Also, this whole Flash thing is unfortunate for us I find. This is Clash of the Titans (Adobe vs. Apple) and we, the mere mortal customers, are caught in the crossfire. I personally value Apple's products enough to live without Flash though tbh.

  • Rachel

    I don't care if people buy this or like it. But, I do care if this compromises the quality/function of my favorite contraption ever, the iPod touch. One person made the comment a month ago, "apple needs to get rid of the iPod touch and just focus on the ipad." I hope apple isn't thinking the same fail, because i will not buy one. I love the size of the ipod touch, and it's exactly what I want-I don't want it to look like an ipad. If too many cool apps come out for the ipad only, I will be a disgruntled costomer. I won't buy it, or any other apple crap.
    The best thing about apple apps is that most apps, with the obvious exceptions, can be used on either idevice. Clutter that up and people will get pissed off and confused, and stupid kids will have dumb "this doesn't work" one star reviews.
    Rant over, I'm not sure what i'm talking about, but I'm pissed.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I have no fear of the iPod Touch going away. None at all.

      Most young kids in school won't be carrying around an iPad and don't have parents that can afford to give them an iPhone. Enter iPod Touch. It will be a gateway into the iPhone/iPad world for years to come.

      Don't worry about it one iota. MAYBE, though, they'll stick a control pad and a couple game buttons on there. lol.

      • Rachel

        Thanks :)

  • Rachel

    I don't care if people buy this or like it. But, I do care if this compromises the quality/function of my favorite contraption ever, the iPod touch. One person made the comment a month ago, "apple needs to get rid of the iPod touch and just focus on the ipad." I hope apple isn't thinking the same fail, because i will not buy one. I love the size of the ipod touch, and it's exactly what I want-I don't want it to look like an ipad. If too many cool apps come out for the ipad only, I will be a disgruntled costomer. I won't buy it, or any other apple crap.
    The best thing about apple apps is that most apps, with the obvious exceptions, can be used on either idevice. Clutter that up and people will get pissed off and confused, and stupid kids will have dumb "this doesn't work" one star reviews.
    Rant over, I'm not sure what i'm talking about, but I'm pissed.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I have no fear of the iPod Touch going away. None at all.

      Most young kids in school won't be carrying around an iPad and don't have parents that can afford to give them an iPhone. Enter iPod Touch. It will be a gateway into the iPhone/iPad world for years to come.

      Don't worry about it one iota. MAYBE, though, they'll stick a control pad and a couple game buttons on there. lol.

      • Rachel

        Thanks :)

  • http://www.silentrocco.com Silent Rocco

    The iPad might be a sweet surfing device at home.
    But it's clearly NOT a cool mobile device, especially for gaming.
    Nobody will use it while standing... You always need a very casual sitting position :) And don't forget all the bathroom gaming (you know what I mean). I'm still for an extra site for iPad gaming to have all the uber-hype away from this one. I don't want to search for new iPhone games. And it will definitely be this way soon.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I mostly agree with you. It's not so much mobile as portable.

      As far as segmenting the market, I don't think you'll see too much disparity right away. I, for one, will release my game on both and most likely as a universal. I also don't see the iPad market even approaching the combined sales of the little guys anytime soon. As much as us game devs like the new tech and possibilities we'd still like to earn a living while doing it.

      Either way, won't you be interested in the ways that some of your favorite iPhone games fare on the iPad? I think it makes sense to keep it all under one umbrella here at TouchArcade. It should be easy enough to filter stories by iPhone iPod Touch only if you REALLY can't stand the iPad stuff.

      Ramping up to April 3rd, however, I imagine there will be a lot of stories and press releases. That will pass though, and most of those stories will mention the counterpart iPhone game, I bet.

  • http://www.silentrocco.com Silent Rocco

    The iPad might be a sweet surfing device at home.
    But it's clearly NOT a cool mobile device, especially for gaming.
    Nobody will use it while standing... You always need a very casual sitting position :) And don't forget all the bathroom gaming (you know what I mean). I'm still for an extra site for iPad gaming to have all the uber-hype away from this one. I don't want to search for new iPhone games. And it will definitely be this way soon.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I mostly agree with you. It's not so much mobile as portable.

      As far as segmenting the market, I don't think you'll see too much disparity right away. I, for one, will release my game on both and most likely as a universal. I also don't see the iPad market even approaching the combined sales of the little guys anytime soon. As much as us game devs like the new tech and possibilities we'd still like to earn a living while doing it.

      Either way, won't you be interested in the ways that some of your favorite iPhone games fare on the iPad? I think it makes sense to keep it all under one umbrella here at TouchArcade. It should be easy enough to filter stories by iPhone iPod Touch only if you REALLY can't stand the iPad stuff.

      Ramping up to April 3rd, however, I imagine there will be a lot of stories and press releases. That will pass though, and most of those stories will mention the counterpart iPhone game, I bet.

  • blackHorse

    I don't need it, I don't want it. HP's Slate on the other hand, it can run a real OS and play Flash... I'll buy that instead, thank you.

    • Bob

      Flash sucks. Real OS? You're clueless.

      • JC2009

        lol. Flash might suck, so no debate there. What sucks even more though is only being able to see part of the internet through a $500+ device.

      • Johnny82

        You haven't heard of OSX or Windows 7 I take it? There is a lot more out there other than the iPhone/iPod OS! You are clueless :)

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Do me a personal favor, though. Try them both out first. See which one is the better user experience for you. Not sure why you'd care about doing me a personal favor, but it sounds nice. ;)

    • Ben!

      Flash only sucks because it HAS to for you to make your point. The fact is that it's ubiquitous on the web. It's annoying enough that my iPhone won't run it, but for this supposed netbook competitor to be just as crippled is unacceptable. You'd be an idiot to disagree.

      • blackHorse

        Actually I play flash games a lot. Plus Windows 7 is a real OS no matter what you people think. It's not the most stabile OS out there, but it's a real one, not some toy OS iPhone & iPad run...

      • Johnny82

        Your Windows 7 isn't stable? I find most people blame their errors on Windows, even if its the applications fault. But in Windows 7, Im not deluded or anything, but I don't have ANY errors. I use my Win7 notebook for Graphic Design, Games (bad company 2, darkfall, civ4), music and movies. Its frickin sweet!

    • DreamPod

      Yeah, the HP Slate can run Windows 7. But Windows 7 *sucks* for exclusive touchscreen use. It's better than Vista or XP for touchscreens, with the ribbon interface, but unfortunately only a few built-in apps use that interface. The rest (and any apps you'd actually buy/download) will all have tiny buttons and file lists never meant for touchscreen use.

      As well, while Windows 7 is far better than Vista or XP for netbooks CPU's like you'd find in the Slate, it's still going to take up a hell of a lot more CPU (and battery) power than an iPad will running iPhone OS.

  • blackHorse

    I don't need it, I don't want it. HP's Slate on the other hand, it can run a real OS and play Flash... I'll buy that instead, thank you.

    • Bob

      Flash sucks. Real OS? You're clueless.

      • JC2009

        lol. Flash might suck, so no debate there. What sucks even more though is only being able to see part of the internet through a $500+ device.

      • Johnny82

        You haven't heard of OSX or Windows 7 I take it? There is a lot more out there other than the iPhone/iPod OS! You are clueless :)

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Do me a personal favor, though. Try them both out first. See which one is the better user experience for you. Not sure why you'd care about doing me a personal favor, but it sounds nice. ;)

    • Ben!

      Flash only sucks because it HAS to for you to make your point. The fact is that it's ubiquitous on the web. It's annoying enough that my iPhone won't run it, but for this supposed netbook competitor to be just as crippled is unacceptable. You'd be an idiot to disagree.

      • blackHorse

        Actually I play flash games a lot. Plus Windows 7 is a real OS no matter what you people think. It's not the most stabile OS out there, but it's a real one, not some toy OS iPhone & iPad run...

      • Johnny82

        Your Windows 7 isn't stable? I find most people blame their errors on Windows, even if its the applications fault. But in Windows 7, Im not deluded or anything, but I don't have ANY errors. I use my Win7 notebook for Graphic Design, Games (bad company 2, darkfall, civ4), music and movies. Its frickin sweet!

    • DreamPod

      Yeah, the HP Slate can run Windows 7. But Windows 7 *sucks* for exclusive touchscreen use. It's better than Vista or XP for touchscreens, with the ribbon interface, but unfortunately only a few built-in apps use that interface. The rest (and any apps you'd actually buy/download) will all have tiny buttons and file lists never meant for touchscreen use.

      As well, while Windows 7 is far better than Vista or XP for netbooks CPU's like you'd find in the Slate, it's still going to take up a hell of a lot more CPU (and battery) power than an iPad will running iPhone OS.

  • -=XX=-Nephilim

    I expect iPad to be moderate success but I won't be buying it for sure...

    Way too pointless and pricey for something that servers no purposes :)

    I was really expecting Apple will keep iPhone and then introduce iPad as slightly larger device and iPod Touch replacement...

    In short - iPhone as is

    iPad - as cca 5" screen iPod Touch replacement

    But sigh... :(

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I'm surprised you find the iPad pointless and without purpose since you _are_ interested in an iPod with a bigger screen... which is what the iPad is. I suppose your vision for a 5 inch future of iPod Touch still isn't impossible, though. Hope that works out for you.

      • -=XX=-Nephilim

        iPad, at least for me, is pointlessly useless mainly due to its size. I need MOBILE device not portable one since I already have it - it is called MacBook Pro...

        I love my iPod Touch as is - however, would love it even more if its screen size would be slightly bigger :)

        Slightly bigger iPod Touch which I hoped would be iPad would still be of a pocket size yet provide enhanced experience due to larger screen...

        Hope this explains...

  • -=XX=-Nephilim

    I expect iPad to be moderate success but I won't be buying it for sure...

    Way too pointless and pricey for something that servers no purposes :)

    I was really expecting Apple will keep iPhone and then introduce iPad as slightly larger device and iPod Touch replacement...

    In short - iPhone as is

    iPad - as cca 5" screen iPod Touch replacement

    But sigh... :(

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I'm surprised you find the iPad pointless and without purpose since you _are_ interested in an iPod with a bigger screen... which is what the iPad is. I suppose your vision for a 5 inch future of iPod Touch still isn't impossible, though. Hope that works out for you.

      • -=XX=-Nephilim

        iPad, at least for me, is pointlessly useless mainly due to its size. I need MOBILE device not portable one since I already have it - it is called MacBook Pro...

        I love my iPod Touch as is - however, would love it even more if its screen size would be slightly bigger :)

        Slightly bigger iPod Touch which I hoped would be iPad would still be of a pocket size yet provide enhanced experience due to larger screen...

        Hope this explains...

  • JC2009

    So here is what will happen. Lots of early adopters will get this ipad and basically beta test it for Apple. They will help Apple test the bookstore and also the new customized applications.

    Three months down the road, Apple will cut the price and/or build the unit everyone wants (camera,etc). At that time, all of the early adopters will cry.

    Predictable and funny.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Some people say this is just an iPod Touch which is a mature device with mature software and others say this device is a beta device with beta software. Maybe it's something in between?

      I, for one, promise not to cry when, not if, the new version comes with new features and a lower price. Please don't confuse the vocal few when this happens with the majority of iPad owners. It happens with everything.

      I'm choosing to buy it right away for two reasons: One, this is a device that we have felt the need for over a long period of time. The other is for professional reasons. Honestly, I think it would be smarter for most people to wait and play with one, maybe at an Apple store or with a friend's or co-worker's.

  • JC2009

    So here is what will happen. Lots of early adopters will get this ipad and basically beta test it for Apple. They will help Apple test the bookstore and also the new customized applications.

    Three months down the road, Apple will cut the price and/or build the unit everyone wants (camera,etc). At that time, all of the early adopters will cry.

    Predictable and funny.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Some people say this is just an iPod Touch which is a mature device with mature software and others say this device is a beta device with beta software. Maybe it's something in between?

      I, for one, promise not to cry when, not if, the new version comes with new features and a lower price. Please don't confuse the vocal few when this happens with the majority of iPad owners. It happens with everything.

      I'm choosing to buy it right away for two reasons: One, this is a device that we have felt the need for over a long period of time. The other is for professional reasons. Honestly, I think it would be smarter for most people to wait and play with one, maybe at an Apple store or with a friend's or co-worker's.

  • Vende

    It's a consideration, though there's no way I'm blowing more money on a monthly 3g bill.

    I'll wait a few months for feedback before buying the 16 or 32 gigger

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Just to be clear, even if you have the 3G version, you will never need a "monthly" 3G bill. You just sign up for it a month at a time whenever you need it. No contract. You can even get the cheap one, and if you go over your limit it gives you the option to switch to the unlimited. Right on the iPad. Just making sure you're clear on that.

      Me, I went for the Wifi myself. I need it fast and cheap. :)

  • Vende

    It's a consideration, though there's no way I'm blowing more money on a monthly 3g bill.

    I'll wait a few months for feedback before buying the 16 or 32 gigger

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Just to be clear, even if you have the 3G version, you will never need a "monthly" 3G bill. You just sign up for it a month at a time whenever you need it. No contract. You can even get the cheap one, and if you go over your limit it gives you the option to switch to the unlimited. Right on the iPad. Just making sure you're clear on that.

      Me, I went for the Wifi myself. I need it fast and cheap. :)

  • klouud

    hey, here's an idea! How about I spend $500-700 on a product that I already have (except larger)!

    Horay! And while I'm at it, I'm going to by a DSi XXL super series and a PSPGo-for the win 9000!

    Lets all waste money! Weeeeee!

    Or you can get a $250 netbook and install OSX Snow Leopard on it and be done.

    tim

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I know you're just having a little fun, here, but I fail to see how a $250 netbook with MacOS X installed is anywhere near as useful, enjoyable and/or interesting as an iPad.

      Few questions:
      Speed this netbook will run a full OS like MacOS X?
      Driver issues?
      Complexity of installation and maintenance?
      Screen size? Clarity? Viewing angle?
      Battery life?
      Can I run my finger across the screen and have the book pages do that cool flippy thing? ;)
      Does it have a lot of apps and games crafted for exactly the screen resolution and screen size on the netbook?

  • klouud

    hey, here's an idea! How about I spend $500-700 on a product that I already have (except larger)!

    Horay! And while I'm at it, I'm going to by a DSi XXL super series and a PSPGo-for the win 9000!

    Lets all waste money! Weeeeee!

    Or you can get a $250 netbook and install OSX Snow Leopard on it and be done.

    tim

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I know you're just having a little fun, here, but I fail to see how a $250 netbook with MacOS X installed is anywhere near as useful, enjoyable and/or interesting as an iPad.

      Few questions:
      Speed this netbook will run a full OS like MacOS X?
      Driver issues?
      Complexity of installation and maintenance?
      Screen size? Clarity? Viewing angle?
      Battery life?
      Can I run my finger across the screen and have the book pages do that cool flippy thing? ;)
      Does it have a lot of apps and games crafted for exactly the screen resolution and screen size on the netbook?

  • Shinkz

    - No Camera
    - No Flash
    - No Multitasking

    No thank you Apple. I'll wait for one of the other tablets that doesn't suck bawls.

    • blackHorse

      Word, bro, word!

  • Shinkz

    - No Camera
    - No Flash
    - No Multitasking

    No thank you Apple. I'll wait for one of the other tablets that doesn't suck bawls.

    • blackHorse

      Word, bro, word!

  • djflippy

    Why get an iPhone on day one? It's just a phone with a bigger screen...

    I can understand someone not wanting an iPad, but their desire to heckle those of us that do is unnecessary.

    I am voting with my wallet; I'm buying one. It's $100 CHEAPER than the iPhone was at launch, which is an amazing bargain.

    Not to mention the fact that I already own a kabillion apps for it.

  • djflippy

    Why get an iPhone on day one? It's just a phone with a bigger screen...

    I can understand someone not wanting an iPad, but their desire to heckle those of us that do is unnecessary.

    I am voting with my wallet; I'm buying one. It's $100 CHEAPER than the iPhone was at launch, which is an amazing bargain.

    Not to mention the fact that I already own a kabillion apps for it.

  • subgenious

    Wow, some serious elitists here! I think I'd try a device before I make overblown judgments about it. Granted I'll probably wait until it has a camera, but my netbook does so many things poorly (enough that I'd rather break out a laptop or pick up my iPhone than use it) that I don't see how they are a viable platform.

  • subgenious

    Wow, some serious elitists here! I think I'd try a device before I make overblown judgments about it. Granted I'll probably wait until it has a camera, but my netbook does so many things poorly (enough that I'd rather break out a laptop or pick up my iPhone than use it) that I don't see how they are a viable platform.

  • x999x

    Can i preorder a iPAD FILTER on this site?

    • http://www.silentrocco.com SIlent Rocco

      Another site or this one. Good idea :)

    • kalel39

      Just wait 6 months for the Maxi iPad.

      : )

  • x999x

    Can i preorder a iPAD FILTER on this site?

    • http://www.silentrocco.com SIlent Rocco

      Another site or this one. Good idea :)

    • kalel39

      Just wait 6 months for the Maxi iPad.

      : )

  • http://forums.toucharcade.com/member.php?u=1830 Liam (aka TGR)

    lol angry nerds.

    I'm sorry it doesn't run OS Unicorn or make you toast.

  • http://forums.toucharcade.com/member.php?u=1830 Liam (aka TGR)

    lol angry nerds.

    I'm sorry it doesn't run OS Unicorn or make you toast.

  • http://ifonekit.com bomber

    Toucharcade has been overrun by MS fanboys?

    • Adams Immersive

      Their nightmare is coming true, while others of us are getting something great. Think how bad that feels, and be nice to them!

    • MrMuesli

      It's nothing to do with taking sides. I have a macbook and an iPod Touch, yet there are definite questions marks for me on this one.

      • http://www.silentrocco.com SIlent Rocco

        Then, what am I?
        I think, Windows is a joke, I love Apple, I think the iPhone is an uber-gadget, really the best product, I've ever had/used. But still I think, there is way too much attention on a little product, which is good for my mom, if she wants to surf on her couch. Like the Wii for consoles, it is the iPad for computing. Which is not a bad thing. But the iPhone is much more a revolutionary product with a much bigger appeal, since you got it in your pocket anyway - every time, everywhere.

      • MrMuesli

        Well, I guess you are a fan of Mac products, not a 'FanBoy', which is an entirely different kettle of fish: / As for the user base, it does seem ironic that a company so self conscious about it's hip young image has designed a product that will do quite well in old peoples homes by the sound of it; )

  • http://ifonekit.com bomber

    Toucharcade has been overrun by MS fanboys?

    • Adams Immersive

      Their nightmare is coming true, while others of us are getting something great. Think how bad that feels, and be nice to them!

    • MrMuesli

      It's nothing to do with taking sides. I have a macbook and an iPod Touch, yet there are definite questions marks for me on this one.

      • http://www.silentrocco.com SIlent Rocco

        Then, what am I?
        I think, Windows is a joke, I love Apple, I think the iPhone is an uber-gadget, really the best product, I've ever had/used. But still I think, there is way too much attention on a little product, which is good for my mom, if she wants to surf on her couch. Like the Wii for consoles, it is the iPad for computing. Which is not a bad thing. But the iPhone is much more a revolutionary product with a much bigger appeal, since you got it in your pocket anyway - every time, everywhere.

      • MrMuesli

        Well, I guess you are a fan of Mac products, not a 'FanBoy', which is an entirely different kettle of fish: / As for the user base, it does seem ironic that a company so self conscious about it's hip young image has designed a product that will do quite well in old peoples homes by the sound of it; )

  • Carlos-Sz

    Some friends here just need a notebook! :)

    I think this will be a great device for my twins and even for some of my relatives that need something simple and intuitive.

    I thought I’d miss flash when I purchased my first iPhone but time showed me I was wrong. I can live without it.

  • Carlos-Sz

    Some friends here just need a notebook! :)

    I think this will be a great device for my twins and even for some of my relatives that need something simple and intuitive.

    I thought I’d miss flash when I purchased my first iPhone but time showed me I was wrong. I can live without it.

  • CassieTheChaoticCupcake

    With the iPad, I'm seeing more negatives than positives, but once it has been released I could be proven wrong. I just hope Apple doesn't get too big for its boots with this project because it could easily fail. As someone said earlier, the average consumer is the target here. I'm not seeing anything too average about the iPad from the price to functionality to even its practicality. Sure, there will be those few fanatics who rush out to buy Apple's next big thing and a narrow minority who will actually get use out of everything it has to offer (i.e. job-juggling multi-tasking students who simply don't have the time to mess around with much else).
    I see so much potential in the idea of an iPad in that it can, in a way, replace the need for a computer. It takes care of basics such as internet access, email, gaming, etc. The potential is there, but what I don't see from Apple is the consistency to go the extra mile this time. The comments on this article are going to sound like a broken record, but it really is just an enlarged iPod Touch.
    On the Apple site it lists the capabilities:
    * Safari
    * Mail
    * Photos
    * Videos
    * YouTube
    * iPod
    * iTunes
    * App Store
    * Maps
    * Notes
    * Calendar
    * Contacts
    * Home Screen
    * Spotlight Search
    * Accessibility
    If you'll notice, it's the same thing the iPod Touch does. In fact, less. Let's see what all the iPod Touch can do!
    # Music
    # Movies + TV Shows
    # App Store
    # iTunes
    # Voice Control
    # Photos
    # Home Screen
    # Safari Web Browser
    # Mail
    # Maps
    # YouTube
    # Nike + iPod
    # Voice Memos
    # Accessibility
    Anyone catch what the big "oops" was? Yeah, the iPad is missing voice.
    I'm not going to sit here and rant about what's wrong with it. Everyone else has done it for me. How about what an avid Apple fan WANTS from it?
    Firstly, I'd like to see Apple get to work on bringing flash to the iDevices. That's speaking for the Touch, iPhone, and iPad. If that were something coming to our devices in the near future, I might not ask for anything else. I'd be like a little kid the week before Christmas: "If you get me a pony I don't want anything else for five years". Satisfy your customers, Apple. We've been waiting long enough on you and Adobe to get your act together and a project in the works. On the iPad's home screen I'd like to either have bigger icons or more than the 16 that I already can fit on my iPhone.
    As for the pricing, bring it down a little. I know you guys are excited about your newest device, but seeing as there's not as much positive hype as even I expected there to be, you're really setting yourself and your customers up for disappointment. Know what also really irks me? You have to pay extra (I've heard rumor of monthly payments?) for the WiFi and 3G service. It's double the price of most same-sized laptops with not even half the space. Let's be reasonable. The AVERAGE customer you're looking to target doesn't have that kind of money. As for those who can use the iPad to its full potential? Most likely it's for school or their job which their time and money goes into anyway. Like I said, the iPad is not very practical, especially when an iPod Touch can do the exact same thing for a MUCH smaller price. In fact, a smart customer would invest in an iPhone. You get internet even when there's not a 3G or WiFi hotspot. You have a camera, a phone, and pocket gaming device all in one. So far, none of those have been made possible for the iPad.
    I'll leave the rest of its faults to be uncovered when they reach human hands ^.~

    • Jimbobb

      Ummm....voice? That is the killer feature you want? Well, if its so important I guess you would know that every iPad has a microphone. Look at that.

      As for price, you cannot be serious. This thing comes out at 50% what everyone expected, all the knockoff companies are scrambling because Apple did not leave them much room to differentiate on price, its the same price as the Kindle DX, and still people go after the price. You may or may not need it (I don't..yet) but the price is amazing.

      • CassieTheChaoticCupcake

        I wasn't targeting every aspect of it. I don't like to attack my beloved creator of devices more than I have to. I'm just giving you guys what Apple displays, and voice happened to NOT be one of them listed for the iPad. Voice is not my major concern in the least, but like I said, I'll let everyone else take care of that for me. If I don't I'll just sound like a broken record repeating what has already been iterated in the comments. ^_^
        And I can't stress it enough, Apple: IDEVICES NEED A FLASH PLAYER!
        That is all :)

  • CassieTheChaoticCupcake

    With the iPad, I'm seeing more negatives than positives, but once it has been released I could be proven wrong. I just hope Apple doesn't get too big for its boots with this project because it could easily fail. As someone said earlier, the average consumer is the target here. I'm not seeing anything too average about the iPad from the price to functionality to even its practicality. Sure, there will be those few fanatics who rush out to buy Apple's next big thing and a narrow minority who will actually get use out of everything it has to offer (i.e. job-juggling multi-tasking students who simply don't have the time to mess around with much else).
    I see so much potential in the idea of an iPad in that it can, in a way, replace the need for a computer. It takes care of basics such as internet access, email, gaming, etc. The potential is there, but what I don't see from Apple is the consistency to go the extra mile this time. The comments on this article are going to sound like a broken record, but it really is just an enlarged iPod Touch.
    On the Apple site it lists the capabilities:
    * Safari
    * Mail
    * Photos
    * Videos
    * YouTube
    * iPod
    * iTunes
    * App Store
    * Maps
    * Notes
    * Calendar
    * Contacts
    * Home Screen
    * Spotlight Search
    * Accessibility
    If you'll notice, it's the same thing the iPod Touch does. In fact, less. Let's see what all the iPod Touch can do!
    # Music
    # Movies + TV Shows
    # App Store
    # iTunes
    # Voice Control
    # Photos
    # Home Screen
    # Safari Web Browser
    # Mail
    # Maps
    # YouTube
    # Nike + iPod
    # Voice Memos
    # Accessibility
    Anyone catch what the big "oops" was? Yeah, the iPad is missing voice.
    I'm not going to sit here and rant about what's wrong with it. Everyone else has done it for me. How about what an avid Apple fan WANTS from it?
    Firstly, I'd like to see Apple get to work on bringing flash to the iDevices. That's speaking for the Touch, iPhone, and iPad. If that were something coming to our devices in the near future, I might not ask for anything else. I'd be like a little kid the week before Christmas: "If you get me a pony I don't want anything else for five years". Satisfy your customers, Apple. We've been waiting long enough on you and Adobe to get your act together and a project in the works. On the iPad's home screen I'd like to either have bigger icons or more than the 16 that I already can fit on my iPhone.
    As for the pricing, bring it down a little. I know you guys are excited about your newest device, but seeing as there's not as much positive hype as even I expected there to be, you're really setting yourself and your customers up for disappointment. Know what also really irks me? You have to pay extra (I've heard rumor of monthly payments?) for the WiFi and 3G service. It's double the price of most same-sized laptops with not even half the space. Let's be reasonable. The AVERAGE customer you're looking to target doesn't have that kind of money. As for those who can use the iPad to its full potential? Most likely it's for school or their job which their time and money goes into anyway. Like I said, the iPad is not very practical, especially when an iPod Touch can do the exact same thing for a MUCH smaller price. In fact, a smart customer would invest in an iPhone. You get internet even when there's not a 3G or WiFi hotspot. You have a camera, a phone, and pocket gaming device all in one. So far, none of those have been made possible for the iPad.
    I'll leave the rest of its faults to be uncovered when they reach human hands ^.~

    • Jimbobb

      Ummm....voice? That is the killer feature you want? Well, if its so important I guess you would know that every iPad has a microphone. Look at that.

      As for price, you cannot be serious. This thing comes out at 50% what everyone expected, all the knockoff companies are scrambling because Apple did not leave them much room to differentiate on price, its the same price as the Kindle DX, and still people go after the price. You may or may not need it (I don't..yet) but the price is amazing.

      • CassieTheChaoticCupcake

        I wasn't targeting every aspect of it. I don't like to attack my beloved creator of devices more than I have to. I'm just giving you guys what Apple displays, and voice happened to NOT be one of them listed for the iPad. Voice is not my major concern in the least, but like I said, I'll let everyone else take care of that for me. If I don't I'll just sound like a broken record repeating what has already been iterated in the comments. ^_^
        And I can't stress it enough, Apple: IDEVICES NEED A FLASH PLAYER!
        That is all :)

  • Jorlen

    I'm sure the ipad will find its market. Will it outsell the iphone? I doubt it. For the most part, the majority of purchasers won't be existing iphone / ipod touch users. I think Apple is trying to gain new market ground. Personally I have no use for it but it's a neat device. I don't like the name much though :/

  • Jorlen

    I'm sure the ipad will find its market. Will it outsell the iphone? I doubt it. For the most part, the majority of purchasers won't be existing iphone / ipod touch users. I think Apple is trying to gain new market ground. Personally I have no use for it but it's a neat device. I don't like the name much though :/

  • kalel39

    I would be more interested in it if I could use it to manage my iphone apps on itunes and if it at least came with one usb post I would have appreciated that too.

    As it is right now I have no need for one.

    • Rachel

      That's a good idea.

  • kalel39

    I would be more interested in it if I could use it to manage my iphone apps on itunes and if it at least came with one usb post I would have appreciated that too.

    As it is right now I have no need for one.

    • Rachel

      That's a good idea.

  • GUYAK

    WASTE OF MONEY ! It's just like having a bigger iphone? Do you really need it?

  • GUYAK

    WASTE OF MONEY ! It's just like having a bigger iphone? Do you really need it?

  • larrybeo

    This is ridiculous. I've had a touch screen tablet PC for years that is capable of playing Half Life 2 and Counterstike on. AND it runs FLASH. I will wait for these to drop to about $99 around Christmas, then I may consider buying one for a cheap tablet that I wouldn't mind getting lost/stolen whenever I am out in the city.

  • larrybeo

    This is ridiculous. I've had a touch screen tablet PC for years that is capable of playing Half Life 2 and Counterstike on. AND it runs FLASH. I will wait for these to drop to about $99 around Christmas, then I may consider buying one for a cheap tablet that I wouldn't mind getting lost/stolen whenever I am out in the city.

  • MrMuesli

    @ Silent Rocco (here because my comment was moderated...grrrr) Well, I guess you are a fan of Mac products, not a 'FanBoy', which is an entirely different kettle of fish: / As for the user base, it does seem ironic that a company so self conscious about it's hip young image has designed a product that will do quite well in old peoples homes by the sound of it; )

  • MrMuesli

    @ Silent Rocco (here because my comment was moderated...grrrr) Well, I guess you are a fan of Mac products, not a 'FanBoy', which is an entirely different kettle of fish: / As for the user base, it does seem ironic that a company so self conscious about it's hip young image has designed a product that will do quite well in old peoples homes by the sound of it; )

  • Bosconian

    Zero interest in the ipad from me.

    To me it's just a very weak, overpriced netbook without a keyboard. I don't get what some people see in it.

  • Bosconian

    Zero interest in the ipad from me.

    To me it's just a very weak, overpriced netbook without a keyboard. I don't get what some people see in it.

  • http://www.runningwithscissorsgame.com Chris Forrester

    You can expect Sleek Games to be making games for this.. We've got some awesome ideas that just aren't doable on a 480x320 format.

    Expect more info soon :)

    Btw. Multiplayer + Same Device + Largish Touch Screen = Uber Fun

  • jeffyg3

    If I'm going to get a tablet it will be for taking with me to browse the net and watch movies and shows on the god...so that 64gig would be preferable.

    Unfortunately the biggest problem with the iPad is browsing the web...seriously, no flash support for the device? I go into a lot of sites where flash is needed, and not just for video. Would also be nice to view Hulu on the iPad...sorry, flash not supported. If Apple ever fixes this, I would buy an iPad, as it stands I'm already looking into other future tablets that will have a good full featured web browser...iPad just doesn't cut it.

  • http://www.runningwithscissorsgame.com Chris Forrester

    You can expect Sleek Games to be making games for this.. We've got some awesome ideas that just aren't doable on a 480x320 format.

    Expect more info soon :)

    Btw. Multiplayer + Same Device + Largish Touch Screen = Uber Fun

  • jeffyg3

    If I'm going to get a tablet it will be for taking with me to browse the net and watch movies and shows on the god...so that 64gig would be preferable.

    Unfortunately the biggest problem with the iPad is browsing the web...seriously, no flash support for the device? I go into a lot of sites where flash is needed, and not just for video. Would also be nice to view Hulu on the iPad...sorry, flash not supported. If Apple ever fixes this, I would buy an iPad, as it stands I'm already looking into other future tablets that will have a good full featured web browser...iPad just doesn't cut it.

  • x999x

    steamroller + iphone = ipad

  • x999x

    steamroller + iphone = ipad

  • GreyDawn

    To: Aaron Sullivan

    Is Apple paying you to spam these sites buddy? Or do you just consider it a promotion tactic? Or are you Steve Jobs assuming an alternate identity?

    Do you REALLY have to reply to every single negative thing that gets said in this comment section?

    Sheesh.

    Sorry anybody can say anything negative about God's gift to you.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Just excited. :) I wanted to lend some positive discussion to the comments, which seemed to quickly devolve into nastiness from both haters and lovers of the device.

      You'll see that I posted responses to both negative and positive stuff if I thought I had something to add. Also, I'd love it if promotion was that easy! Full disclosure: I did get two hits from this thread!

      As far as fears about me being an Apple stooge or something, a quick bit of research would clear me pretty fast. :)

      To turn your accusation: Sorry, if I can't say anything positive about Satan's curse to you. ;) I keed, I keed.

  • GreyDawn

    To: Aaron Sullivan

    Is Apple paying you to spam these sites buddy? Or do you just consider it a promotion tactic? Or are you Steve Jobs assuming an alternate identity?

    Do you REALLY have to reply to every single negative thing that gets said in this comment section?

    Sheesh.

    Sorry anybody can say anything negative about God's gift to you.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      Just excited. :) I wanted to lend some positive discussion to the comments, which seemed to quickly devolve into nastiness from both haters and lovers of the device.

      You'll see that I posted responses to both negative and positive stuff if I thought I had something to add. Also, I'd love it if promotion was that easy! Full disclosure: I did get two hits from this thread!

      As far as fears about me being an Apple stooge or something, a quick bit of research would clear me pretty fast. :)

      To turn your accusation: Sorry, if I can't say anything positive about Satan's curse to you. ;) I keed, I keed.

  • http://www.iphonelife.com/ Menneisyys

    Guys, the iPad is a completely different beast than a netbook - or, for that matter, a Tablet PC.

    For one, show me a real Tablet PC that weighs in less than 2.5 pounds. Show me one that has an IPS screen (don't underestimate the quality compared to traditional TN film crap!), while not having a resistive touchscreen (which makes outdoors screen readability bad).

    I have a tablet PC (the HP TC1100) and love it, mostly because the keyboard is detachable and, without it, the tablet "only" weighs in three pounds. Still, it has a rather poor TN film screen (as with most? all? other traditional tablets). I do think the iPad would become a much better alternative for what I'm using my TC1100 (Web browsing, PDF reading, movie watching while in the gym etc.)

  • http://www.iphonelife.com/ Menneisyys

    Guys, the iPad is a completely different beast than a netbook - or, for that matter, a Tablet PC.

    For one, show me a real Tablet PC that weighs in less than 2.5 pounds. Show me one that has an IPS screen (don't underestimate the quality compared to traditional TN film crap!), while not having a resistive touchscreen (which makes outdoors screen readability bad).

    I have a tablet PC (the HP TC1100) and love it, mostly because the keyboard is detachable and, without it, the tablet "only" weighs in three pounds. Still, it has a rather poor TN film screen (as with most? all? other traditional tablets). I do think the iPad would become a much better alternative for what I'm using my TC1100 (Web browsing, PDF reading, movie watching while in the gym etc.)

  • Chris

    Waste of money.

    If any of you say that this is a good deal then WOW, You honestly don't know how to spend your money wisley or you're just bloody rich.

    You could get yourself a brand new computer for as much as they charge and get 50 times the amount of space and features then an Ipad could ever offer.

    • Martin Firm

      BTW... this thread? And the opinions of the naysayers and haters will go down as a comedy classic. Ten years from now, we'll all look back on this and laugh our asses off at just how far off base the haters are.

      Shoot, we might be laughing our asses off ten MONTHS from now judging by the sales figures the Apple Store posted in just six hours.

      But by all means, continue to enlighten us on how the iPad is useless, over-priced, under-featured, and so on. Just make sure you don't use any login or username that you intend to answer to several years down the road.

  • Chris

    Waste of money.

    If any of you say that this is a good deal then WOW, You honestly don't know how to spend your money wisley or you're just bloody rich.

    You could get yourself a brand new computer for as much as they charge and get 50 times the amount of space and features then an Ipad could ever offer.

    • Martin Firm

      BTW... this thread? And the opinions of the naysayers and haters will go down as a comedy classic. Ten years from now, we'll all look back on this and laugh our asses off at just how far off base the haters are.

      Shoot, we might be laughing our asses off ten MONTHS from now judging by the sales figures the Apple Store posted in just six hours.

      But by all means, continue to enlighten us on how the iPad is useless, over-priced, under-featured, and so on. Just make sure you don't use any login or username that you intend to answer to several years down the road.

  • Gene

    Besides the bigger screen any generation iPhone will give you much more bang for your buck. Sure, the iPad has more processing power and a bigger screen... Who cares?

    It's not a true gaming platform as, based on what I saw in the preview videos, some games are hard to control. The iPhone will always be a better gaming platform simply because it's more mobile. I can put my iPhone in my pocket and go anywhere. Can't do that with an iPad because it's too big. I can also browse the internet on my iPhone pretty much anywhere I go, while the cheaper versions of the iPad don't even come with 3G support.

    So what is the point? Just so you can browse the internet, watch movies and check your email from the couch (something you can do with an iPhone just as good by the way)? Are we really that lazy? Oh and speaking of browsing the internet: THERE IS NO FLASH SUPPORT! That's what, like 60-70% of all websites inaccessible or accessible but useless?

    Sorry about the rant but the iPad is basically a bigger iPod Touch at more than twice the price.

  • Gene

    Besides the bigger screen any generation iPhone will give you much more bang for your buck. Sure, the iPad has more processing power and a bigger screen... Who cares?

    It's not a true gaming platform as, based on what I saw in the preview videos, some games are hard to control. The iPhone will always be a better gaming platform simply because it's more mobile. I can put my iPhone in my pocket and go anywhere. Can't do that with an iPad because it's too big. I can also browse the internet on my iPhone pretty much anywhere I go, while the cheaper versions of the iPad don't even come with 3G support.

    So what is the point? Just so you can browse the internet, watch movies and check your email from the couch (something you can do with an iPhone just as good by the way)? Are we really that lazy? Oh and speaking of browsing the internet: THERE IS NO FLASH SUPPORT! That's what, like 60-70% of all websites inaccessible or accessible but useless?

    Sorry about the rant but the iPad is basically a bigger iPod Touch at more than twice the price.

  • Xytraguptorh

    I think this is kind of like comparing the iPhone to some of the newer phones with better specs, like the Droid. I have the Droid currently (had to switch to Verizon for work) and an iPod Touch (used to have an iPhone). The Droid (like a lot of netbooks) has better specs, but the user experience (to me and a lot of others) is far better with the iPhone. I like things elegant and user friendly, and care about what benefits me in the real world, not on paper.

    The iPad might be the same way compared to netbooks. The lack of Flash is irritating, sure. But I doubt we'll miss Flash for the gaming aspect, because iPhone games are already superior in many ways, and games made specifically for the iPad are probably going to be fantastic.

    The iPad is hopefully going to be more than the sum of its parts. It may compare poorly on paper, but the user experience - light weight, simple, able to run all iPhone apps, great book/magazine reader, etc. - will be the reason people reach for it instead of their netbook or laptop. But I'm not buying on day one. I have to wait for some detailed reviews.

  • Xytraguptorh

    I think this is kind of like comparing the iPhone to some of the newer phones with better specs, like the Droid. I have the Droid currently (had to switch to Verizon for work) and an iPod Touch (used to have an iPhone). The Droid (like a lot of netbooks) has better specs, but the user experience (to me and a lot of others) is far better with the iPhone. I like things elegant and user friendly, and care about what benefits me in the real world, not on paper.

    The iPad might be the same way compared to netbooks. The lack of Flash is irritating, sure. But I doubt we'll miss Flash for the gaming aspect, because iPhone games are already superior in many ways, and games made specifically for the iPad are probably going to be fantastic.

    The iPad is hopefully going to be more than the sum of its parts. It may compare poorly on paper, but the user experience - light weight, simple, able to run all iPhone apps, great book/magazine reader, etc. - will be the reason people reach for it instead of their netbook or laptop. But I'm not buying on day one. I have to wait for some detailed reviews.

  • Mark

    Omg I know! It's too big! I mean it's like a jumbo jet! Why need a bigger airplane?! If we already have small ones!! Why jumbo jets?! Or what is up with big wide screen HD tv now a days?! I mean there just bigger tv?... I mean I would love to continue trolling how bad a bigger ipod is, but really? U don't see what it's usefull for? Well I see plenty, and I'll mention one, TEXTBOOKS

  • Mark

    Omg I know! It's too big! I mean it's like a jumbo jet! Why need a bigger airplane?! If we already have small ones!! Why jumbo jets?! Or what is up with big wide screen HD tv now a days?! I mean there just bigger tv?... I mean I would love to continue trolling how bad a bigger ipod is, but really? U don't see what it's usefull for? Well I see plenty, and I'll mention one, TEXTBOOKS

  • jack

    Flash don't work because of the lack of OnMouseOver (hovering the mouse over the elements onscreen).

    People haven't really realized this yet.

    • CassieTheChaoticCupcake

      If you haven't realized it yet, there is a mouse-like feature that involves using two fingers to navigate certain pages and embedded scroll-boxes, and with a larger screen to work with, we certainly have the room to utilize this feature!
      Though this brings me to another suggestion: Apple should have a switch under the settings on iDevices where you can choose to use a "mouse" (your finger moving about the screen, and to scroll down/up, double-tap and slide the page) to browse the internet. There are so many more possibilities for Apple to explore, which is why I was disappointed nothing new came with the iPad.

  • jack

    Flash don't work because of the lack of OnMouseOver (hovering the mouse over the elements onscreen).

    People haven't really realized this yet.

    • CassieTheChaoticCupcake

      If you haven't realized it yet, there is a mouse-like feature that involves using two fingers to navigate certain pages and embedded scroll-boxes, and with a larger screen to work with, we certainly have the room to utilize this feature!
      Though this brings me to another suggestion: Apple should have a switch under the settings on iDevices where you can choose to use a "mouse" (your finger moving about the screen, and to scroll down/up, double-tap and slide the page) to browse the internet. There are so many more possibilities for Apple to explore, which is why I was disappointed nothing new came with the iPad.

  • Jim Glidewell

    Woo-hoo! Boy, the haters are out in force. I suppose if I lived in my parent's basement, I'd view the iPad as an extravagant waste of money as well. :-)

    The base unit is $500 - not exactly petty cash, but not an impossible price for most Americans. A decent netbook cost at least 2/3 of that only a year or so ago.

    As someone who purchased a netbook for casual web browsing, etc. I can hardly wait to get my hands on an iPad - the netbook is simply lousy as a "living room computer" in my experience - truly bad ergonomics for a couch or easy chair - pointing and clicking using a small, fussy trackpad stinks.

    I have been waiting for Apple to provide a "coffee table computer" for the last 5 years or so - for email, web browsing, iTunes control, photos, and possibly home automation stuff. The iPad is that device (and a wee bit more).

    About three months ago, my wife was sitting on the couch and browsing the web with her iPod touch. She turned to me and said "Apple really should make a bigger one of these..."

    They did.

  • Jim Glidewell

    Woo-hoo! Boy, the haters are out in force. I suppose if I lived in my parent's basement, I'd view the iPad as an extravagant waste of money as well. :-)

    The base unit is $500 - not exactly petty cash, but not an impossible price for most Americans. A decent netbook cost at least 2/3 of that only a year or so ago.

    As someone who purchased a netbook for casual web browsing, etc. I can hardly wait to get my hands on an iPad - the netbook is simply lousy as a "living room computer" in my experience - truly bad ergonomics for a couch or easy chair - pointing and clicking using a small, fussy trackpad stinks.

    I have been waiting for Apple to provide a "coffee table computer" for the last 5 years or so - for email, web browsing, iTunes control, photos, and possibly home automation stuff. The iPad is that device (and a wee bit more).

    About three months ago, my wife was sitting on the couch and browsing the web with her iPod touch. She turned to me and said "Apple really should make a bigger one of these..."

    They did.

  • CassieTheChaoticCupcake
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  • araczynski

    no matter what it does or doesn't do, they're not getting another penny out of me until they get rid of the stupid 11 page limit on the Touch/Phone.

    11 pages per FOLDER is one thing, 11 pages TOTAL? WTF?

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I don't put the same weight on the issue as you seem to, but I'm also annoyed that we don't have a better system for organizing apps. The average number of apps on an iPhone or iPod Touch has to be pretty high by now.

      I will be stunned if iPhone OS 4.0 doesn't have a solution for this. I was pretty surprised the iPad didn't have a solution already. Seems like Apple is going to save up some software goodies for iPhone OS 4.0 to give the next iPhone a bigger splash. Those features should spread to the iPad quickly if not simultaneously. At least, I hope that's the strategy Apple takes with future OS releases. Hmm...

  • araczynski

    no matter what it does or doesn't do, they're not getting another penny out of me until they get rid of the stupid 11 page limit on the Touch/Phone.

    11 pages per FOLDER is one thing, 11 pages TOTAL? WTF?

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      I don't put the same weight on the issue as you seem to, but I'm also annoyed that we don't have a better system for organizing apps. The average number of apps on an iPhone or iPod Touch has to be pretty high by now.

      I will be stunned if iPhone OS 4.0 doesn't have a solution for this. I was pretty surprised the iPad didn't have a solution already. Seems like Apple is going to save up some software goodies for iPhone OS 4.0 to give the next iPhone a bigger splash. Those features should spread to the iPad quickly if not simultaneously. At least, I hope that's the strategy Apple takes with future OS releases. Hmm...

  • djflippy

    I have a question for the people here that think the price is too high and/or that a netbook is better and feel like preaching from the pulpit about it.

    When you bought your iPhones, were you not aware that most phone companies GIVE YOU A FREE PHONE when you apply for service? Maybe you should have gone that route, if you practice what you preach.

  • djflippy

    I have a question for the people here that think the price is too high and/or that a netbook is better and feel like preaching from the pulpit about it.

    When you bought your iPhones, were you not aware that most phone companies GIVE YOU A FREE PHONE when you apply for service? Maybe you should have gone that route, if you practice what you preach.

  • Martin Firm

    Based on the remarks of most blowhards on the Internet, I completed my pre-order for a 16 GB 3G iPad earlier today because: 1) I am a fanboy, 2) I am stupid, 3) I am shallow and brand obsessed, 4) I have money to waste, 5) I don't do "real" computing, 6) I am a slave to Steve's mind control.

    Did I miss anything? Yeah, probably about a hundred other remarks that mean nothing, absolutely nothing. Opinions are like assholes... you know the rest.

    Enjoy your netbooks. While you're still bitching about any app that costs more than zero to .99 and lack of Flash on the iPad, I'll be pecking away at my new crap gadget with idiot's glee because it seems I am not as smart as all of the experts who put sausage-finger to keyboard to enlighten the planet with their expert views.

    • Tim

      You rock... Love the comment

  • Martin Firm

    Based on the remarks of most blowhards on the Internet, I completed my pre-order for a 16 GB 3G iPad earlier today because: 1) I am a fanboy, 2) I am stupid, 3) I am shallow and brand obsessed, 4) I have money to waste, 5) I don't do "real" computing, 6) I am a slave to Steve's mind control.

    Did I miss anything? Yeah, probably about a hundred other remarks that mean nothing, absolutely nothing. Opinions are like assholes... you know the rest.

    Enjoy your netbooks. While you're still bitching about any app that costs more than zero to .99 and lack of Flash on the iPad, I'll be pecking away at my new crap gadget with idiot's glee because it seems I am not as smart as all of the experts who put sausage-finger to keyboard to enlighten the planet with their expert views.

    • Tim

      You rock... Love the comment

  • shannon

    These comments almost seem like spam to me. I've seen comments on other sites that are almost word for word like some of these. Some of them don't even make sense coming from people that would come to a site like toucharcade. It reminds me of companies that troll forums of competing products. Create multiple accounts and have threads that go like this:
    Joe: Product V sucks product X is way better for Y reasons.
    Bill: You're right Joe I used to really like product V but I switched to X.

    ...mix that with real trolls and copy cats and you've got enough noise to drown out the normal people that come to a site like this. ...check out how many comments are on posts like this and watch how the tone of the comments change after the story isn't new and they've moved on.

    • Gates

      Your comment is totally ambigious and doesn't even address the topic of this article. So you're far more like spam than anyone else. It doesn't matter if you think the amount of people bagging on the iPad are wrong...if the iPad wasn't a misstep you wouldn't see so many people flaming what a joke it was. Part of the problem is likely because it was overhyped as a Jesus Device when really it's another flop where Apple grossly underequips the device when there so much more technology that could have gone into this thing (and still turn a huge profit at $500 a pop).

      • Martin Firm

        >> when really it's another flop

        Apparently, the non-iPad tablet device you are using to post your remark is capable of peering into the future because as far as I know, the iPad hasn't been released, nor are any sales figures available.

        I guess it would be unreasonable to wait until it actually arrives to declare it a flop. But then that would spoil a perfectly good rant, wouldn't it? I'm sorry. I interrupted. You were saying something about how much the iPad sucks. Continue, if you wish.

      • Shannon

        50,000 pre orders in the first two hours.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      There was maybe one or two comments that made me raise my eyebrow, but well within the realm of natural internet comments. :) People are passionate about the iPad one way or another it seems. It's one of the useful barometers of an important product -- or maybe just a controversial company. ;)

  • shannon

    These comments almost seem like spam to me. I've seen comments on other sites that are almost word for word like some of these. Some of them don't even make sense coming from people that would come to a site like toucharcade. It reminds me of companies that troll forums of competing products. Create multiple accounts and have threads that go like this:
    Joe: Product V sucks product X is way better for Y reasons.
    Bill: You're right Joe I used to really like product V but I switched to X.

    ...mix that with real trolls and copy cats and you've got enough noise to drown out the normal people that come to a site like this. ...check out how many comments are on posts like this and watch how the tone of the comments change after the story isn't new and they've moved on.

    • Gates

      Your comment is totally ambigious and doesn't even address the topic of this article. So you're far more like spam than anyone else. It doesn't matter if you think the amount of people bagging on the iPad are wrong...if the iPad wasn't a misstep you wouldn't see so many people flaming what a joke it was. Part of the problem is likely because it was overhyped as a Jesus Device when really it's another flop where Apple grossly underequips the device when there so much more technology that could have gone into this thing (and still turn a huge profit at $500 a pop).

      • Martin Firm

        >> when really it's another flop

        Apparently, the non-iPad tablet device you are using to post your remark is capable of peering into the future because as far as I know, the iPad hasn't been released, nor are any sales figures available.

        I guess it would be unreasonable to wait until it actually arrives to declare it a flop. But then that would spoil a perfectly good rant, wouldn't it? I'm sorry. I interrupted. You were saying something about how much the iPad sucks. Continue, if you wish.

      • Shannon

        50,000 pre orders in the first two hours.

    • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

      There was maybe one or two comments that made me raise my eyebrow, but well within the realm of natural internet comments. :) People are passionate about the iPad one way or another it seems. It's one of the useful barometers of an important product -- or maybe just a controversial company. ;)

  • http://forums.toucharcade.com/member.php?u=1830 Liam (aka TGR)

    Such a bunch of tards who think they know everything.

    How many of you have actually touched it? None of you.

    And yet you're making assumptions on what the device is like without even laying your hands on one.

    "This is gonna fail coz it doesn't have flash!!"

    Flash is dead. There's no future in Flash. HTML5 is what the future in internet interactivity is. The iPhone didn't need Flash. They've sold over 75 million iDevices already. Vimeo and YouTube have already implemented HTML5 betas.
    I guess the only reason why you want flash is so you can go to your favourite porn sites.

  • http://forums.toucharcade.com/member.php?u=1830 Liam (aka TGR)

    Such a bunch of tards who think they know everything.

    How many of you have actually touched it? None of you.

    And yet you're making assumptions on what the device is like without even laying your hands on one.

    "This is gonna fail coz it doesn't have flash!!"

    Flash is dead. There's no future in Flash. HTML5 is what the future in internet interactivity is. The iPhone didn't need Flash. They've sold over 75 million iDevices already. Vimeo and YouTube have already implemented HTML5 betas.
    I guess the only reason why you want flash is so you can go to your favourite porn sites.

  • Martin Firm

    So far the case against can be summed up as such:

    1) No Flash
    2) Name sounds like feminine hygiene product

    I'm pretty sure I can endure the ridicule of snickering oldsters who can't imagine an Internet without Flash. Apple has apparently arrived at the same conclusion. The market will validate their decision.

  • Martin Firm

    So far the case against can be summed up as such:

    1) No Flash
    2) Name sounds like feminine hygiene product

    I'm pretty sure I can endure the ridicule of snickering oldsters who can't imagine an Internet without Flash. Apple has apparently arrived at the same conclusion. The market will validate their decision.

  • JaronJacob

    The Apple Ipad sold more than 50,000 units in its first 2 hours of online pre-order availability.

    50,000 units in 2 hours!!!!

    Take that all you HATERS!!!!! Apple has done it again!!!

    • spiffyone

      Pre-orders are not a great way to accurately gauge true interest in a product,IMHO. We have to wait until quarter and then yearly figures come in. After all, PS3 had a pretty damned good pre-order business going, and, guess what? Dead last in the console race. Apple TV had a good amount of pre-orders, and now, unfortunately, it's a "hobby" to Apple (and, IMHO, it's a shame because THAT product has more potential for sales than iPad does).

      Again, I think iPad will be a successful NICHE product, but it will still be quite niche and much less "mainstream" than iPhone/iPod touch.

  • JaronJacob

    The Apple Ipad sold more than 50,000 units in its first 2 hours of online pre-order availability.

    50,000 units in 2 hours!!!!

    Take that all you HATERS!!!!! Apple has done it again!!!

    • spiffyone

      Pre-orders are not a great way to accurately gauge true interest in a product,IMHO. We have to wait until quarter and then yearly figures come in. After all, PS3 had a pretty damned good pre-order business going, and, guess what? Dead last in the console race. Apple TV had a good amount of pre-orders, and now, unfortunately, it's a "hobby" to Apple (and, IMHO, it's a shame because THAT product has more potential for sales than iPad does).

      Again, I think iPad will be a successful NICHE product, but it will still be quite niche and much less "mainstream" than iPhone/iPod touch.