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	<title>Comments on: Apple to Open $19.99 Premium Games Section?</title>
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		<title>By: CoolGamer230</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-12185</link>
		<dc:creator>CoolGamer230</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These $19.99 games better have PSP quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These $19.99 games better have PSP quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Rogers</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-11971</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone, I&#039;m a bit late on the chat, it&#039;s not like I was going
any more relevant than anyone else but here is what I think.

I think it&#039;s safe to say that people are slightly narrow minded when
it comes to defining these portable device. Being a &quot;fanboy&quot; or a
&quot;fangirl&quot; is quite a comftarble status unlike simply being rational
about the situation.

First, the iPod Touch and the iPhone are multimedia platform. Often,
the music player is acknowledge has it&#039;s unique feature. The iPod
Touch and iPhone is actually a pretty powerful device (memory, speed
&amp; rendering) that can actually browse the web, run diverse types of
application and support a large array of media files.

These device are now pushing toward  their gaming aspect. The Touch
Gen are unconventional for gaming, they are somewhat less technical
and more intuitive (this is the same reason some may never like the
Wii). Because of their nature, a lot of the game released for Apple
devices are crap and of homebrew quality. It was the same for the DS
when it came out, but Nintendo had more experience in blocking trash
from their platform.

It&#039;s safe to say that the Apple Premium Games will push the gaming
aspect of the Touch Gen even beyond their MVP app&#039;s. They have to.
Why? Well this brings me to my second point.

The DS and PSP which are what people call &quot;gaming dedicated devices&quot;
actually have a lot of multimedia potential. Sony and Nintendo are
slowly but convincingly pushing toward multi-functions devices with
new firmware, hardware and services just like Apple. Everyone is
adventuring in to everyones territory. Thats how capitalism works :P
Apple, Sony and Nintendo actions are not really surprising.

I&#039;ll watch how things work out for these guys. Fanslaves, choose your
camp; technical=PSP, hybrid=DS, intuitive=iPod.  Has for me, I&#039;m
pretty much versatile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone, I&#039;m a bit late on the chat, it&#039;s not like I was going<br />
any more relevant than anyone else but here is what I think.</p>
<p>I think it&#039;s safe to say that people are slightly narrow minded when<br />
it comes to defining these portable device. Being a &#034;fanboy&#034; or a<br />
&#034;fangirl&#034; is quite a comftarble status unlike simply being rational<br />
about the situation.</p>
<p>First, the iPod Touch and the iPhone are multimedia platform. Often,<br />
the music player is acknowledge has it&#039;s unique feature. The iPod<br />
Touch and iPhone is actually a pretty powerful device (memory, speed<br />
&amp; rendering) that can actually browse the web, run diverse types of<br />
application and support a large array of media files.</p>
<p>These device are now pushing toward  their gaming aspect. The Touch<br />
Gen are unconventional for gaming, they are somewhat less technical<br />
and more intuitive (this is the same reason some may never like the<br />
Wii). Because of their nature, a lot of the game released for Apple<br />
devices are crap and of homebrew quality. It was the same for the DS<br />
when it came out, but Nintendo had more experience in blocking trash<br />
from their platform.</p>
<p>It&#039;s safe to say that the Apple Premium Games will push the gaming<br />
aspect of the Touch Gen even beyond their MVP app&#039;s. They have to.<br />
Why? Well this brings me to my second point.</p>
<p>The DS and PSP which are what people call &#034;gaming dedicated devices&#034;<br />
actually have a lot of multimedia potential. Sony and Nintendo are<br />
slowly but convincingly pushing toward multi-functions devices with<br />
new firmware, hardware and services just like Apple. Everyone is<br />
adventuring in to everyones territory. Thats how capitalism works <img src='http://toucharcade.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Apple, Sony and Nintendo actions are not really surprising.</p>
<p>I&#039;ll watch how things work out for these guys. Fanslaves, choose your<br />
camp; technical=PSP, hybrid=DS, intuitive=iPod.  Has for me, I&#039;m<br />
pretty much versatile.</p>
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		<title>By: death 2 apple</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-11718</link>
		<dc:creator>death 2 apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple has always been greedy. Look at the Macs/Mac OS, look at the iphone/itouch, the dev of the apps. Everything they sell they insist on having complete control over. Higher priced apps = more money for apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple has always been greedy. Look at the Macs/Mac OS, look at the iphone/itouch, the dev of the apps. Everything they sell they insist on having complete control over. Higher priced apps = more money for apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-11658</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is forcing you to buy anything from Apple or  the Apple Store. 

Other than that the store needs a revamp badly. There are just too many garbage apps to sift through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is forcing you to buy anything from Apple or  the Apple Store. </p>
<p>Other than that the store needs a revamp badly. There are just too many garbage apps to sift through.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone, iPod Touch, Spiele</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-11634</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone, iPod Touch, Spiele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] diversen Quellen wie zum Beispiel toucharcade.com oder fscklog.com plant Apple angeblich einen Premium Bereich f&#252;r Spiele im iTunes App Store. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] diversen Quellen wie zum Beispiel toucharcade.com oder fscklog.com plant Apple angeblich einen Premium Bereich f&uuml;r Spiele im iTunes App Store. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-11598</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaming on an Apple TV would definitely be interesting. I still think gaming has only skimmed the surface on an iphone, but that would still be a cool expanse of apple. 

Like I said about games on the gameboy color, It&#039;s not what&#039;s under the hood that defines a system(Wii vs. Ps3 launch should be evidence of this too). Perhaps if apple has a good mix of creative/cheap indie apps and premium/in depth expensive games, they could manage a decent foothold on the gaming industry. 

Just think, hold the Apple TV remote as a D-pad in your left hand, and your iPod touch motion controller in your right........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaming on an Apple TV would definitely be interesting. I still think gaming has only skimmed the surface on an iphone, but that would still be a cool expanse of apple. </p>
<p>Like I said about games on the gameboy color, It&#039;s not what&#039;s under the hood that defines a system(Wii vs. Ps3 launch should be evidence of this too). Perhaps if apple has a good mix of creative/cheap indie apps and premium/in depth expensive games, they could manage a decent foothold on the gaming industry. </p>
<p>Just think, hold the Apple TV remote as a D-pad in your left hand, and your iPod touch motion controller in your right&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: spiffyone</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-11595</link>
		<dc:creator>spiffyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus, it actually makes MORE sense to open up Apple TV to gaming at the price point of $20 each than it does to now introduce $20 games to the iTouch/Phone platform.  The price model and perceived value of the games has already been set for several months now.  It&#039;s free-$9.99, with the majority of games selling well up to the $7.99 price point (Super Monkey Ball still sells well).  Consumers will not likely be willing to shell out $20 for games on this platform after the price has been set for so long.

Consumers, both current and future, of Apple TV will be more willing to shell out $20 for a game on that platform.  Because then it will be up against games on stuff like Wii, 360, PS3 that cost more than double in most cases when first released.  Forget the relative lack of power.  The components in Apple TV are more than enough to run low to mid tier (and maybe higher) last gen games at 480p at a steady framerate.  Looking at the success of the Wii, maybe that&#039;s all that&#039;s really necessary to the current consumer base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, it actually makes MORE sense to open up Apple TV to gaming at the price point of $20 each than it does to now introduce $20 games to the iTouch/Phone platform.  The price model and perceived value of the games has already been set for several months now.  It&#039;s free-$9.99, with the majority of games selling well up to the $7.99 price point (Super Monkey Ball still sells well).  Consumers will not likely be willing to shell out $20 for games on this platform after the price has been set for so long.</p>
<p>Consumers, both current and future, of Apple TV will be more willing to shell out $20 for a game on that platform.  Because then it will be up against games on stuff like Wii, 360, PS3 that cost more than double in most cases when first released.  Forget the relative lack of power.  The components in Apple TV are more than enough to run low to mid tier (and maybe higher) last gen games at 480p at a steady framerate.  Looking at the success of the Wii, maybe that&#039;s all that&#039;s really necessary to the current consumer base.</p>
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		<title>By: spiffyone</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-11594</link>
		<dc:creator>spiffyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kamazar

Developers (like EA) are willing to put their products on the Mac platform if Apple is willing to open up the market a little more.  As for there not being a &quot;hint of gaming happening on Apple TV&quot;, all I can say is that Apple TV Take 2 added support for Apple TV to download things off of iTunes DIRECTLY.  That was simply a software update.  It doesn&#039;t take a genius to figure out that now that Apple TV is a self contained device (no longer does one need to own a Mac or PC and sync Apple TV to those things in order to use it), and that since iTunes isn&#039;t just about iPod or iTouch/Phone (HD movies via iTunes) and since developers in the past had expressed interest in developing games for Apple TV when it was announced that Apple can simply have a software update (Apple TV Take 3) to enable games developed for the platform to sell via iTunes.  And, yeah, there aren&#039;t a lot of people that own an Apple TV.  That&#039;s why it makes sense to open it up to gaming, thereby opening up the potential consumer base for the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kamazar</p>
<p>Developers (like EA) are willing to put their products on the Mac platform if Apple is willing to open up the market a little more.  As for there not being a &#034;hint of gaming happening on Apple TV&#034;, all I can say is that Apple TV Take 2 added support for Apple TV to download things off of iTunes DIRECTLY.  That was simply a software update.  It doesn&#039;t take a genius to figure out that now that Apple TV is a self contained device (no longer does one need to own a Mac or PC and sync Apple TV to those things in order to use it), and that since iTunes isn&#039;t just about iPod or iTouch/Phone (HD movies via iTunes) and since developers in the past had expressed interest in developing games for Apple TV when it was announced that Apple can simply have a software update (Apple TV Take 3) to enable games developed for the platform to sell via iTunes.  And, yeah, there aren&#039;t a lot of people that own an Apple TV.  That&#039;s why it makes sense to open it up to gaming, thereby opening up the potential consumer base for the product.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamazar</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-11593</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple, why the hell are you doing this when the appstore still needs a massive revamp? Searching for a good game with the appstore alone is a chore. They should be fixing the categories and ranking systems instead adding in a premium section. And in premium because of the gameplay, or because of the pricetag and brandname? Probably the latter. I get that apple is trying to make money. Totally understandable, but this is sucking so far. And really guys? Games for the apple tv and mac? Really? That mac isn&#039;t a gaming computer. We all know that. Microsoft has grabbed that territory. And gaming on the apple tv? There isn&#039;t even a hint of that happening. Plus, not that many people own apple tvs. There are things called cable and satellite, AND dvr. Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple, why the hell are you doing this when the appstore still needs a massive revamp? Searching for a good game with the appstore alone is a chore. They should be fixing the categories and ranking systems instead adding in a premium section. And in premium because of the gameplay, or because of the pricetag and brandname? Probably the latter. I get that apple is trying to make money. Totally understandable, but this is sucking so far. And really guys? Games for the apple tv and mac? Really? That mac isn&#039;t a gaming computer. We all know that. Microsoft has grabbed that territory. And gaming on the apple tv? There isn&#039;t even a hint of that happening. Plus, not that many people own apple tvs. There are things called cable and satellite, AND dvr. Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: mavis</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/01/29/apple-to-open-1999-premium-games-section/#comment-11589</link>
		<dc:creator>mavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick +1

I for one can&#039;t wait for a &#039;premium&#039; tier, as long as it truly is premium. I&#039;m willing to pay for $20 for PSP-quality games as opposed to &lt;$10 for the obviously MOBILE-quality stuff now available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick +1</p>
<p>I for one can&#039;t wait for a &#039;premium&#039; tier, as long as it truly is premium. I&#039;m willing to pay for $20 for PSP-quality games as opposed to &lt;$10 for the obviously MOBILE-quality stuff now available.</p>
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